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    The Great Corded Ware Ladder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    The Great Corded Ware Ladder
    thanks for posting this. I learn a lot from such tables. indeed it's much easier now to play around on vahaduo, we can test models faster, improve them faster, try on more models in less time, which will make us come up with better models in the end. I will try and do some new models I was thinking about, re Yamnaya and that period.

    my result on your model, without a few (of the less relevant) samples (for which I don't have the coords)

    Last edited by Nurzat; 11-23-2019 at 05:49 AM.

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    which one is G25? and how do I get it on Gedmatch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    The Great Corded Ware Ladder
    Hell, yeah ! Corded ware ladder > Yamnaya ladder
    Last edited by JamesBond007; 11-23-2019 at 06:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    thanks for posting this. I learn a lot from such tables. indeed it's much easier now to play around on vahaduo, we can test models faster, improve them faster, try on more models in less time, which will make us come up with better models in the end. I will try and do some new models I was thinking about, re Yamnaya and that period.

    my result on your model, without a few (of the less relevant) samples (for which I don't have the coords)

    how'd you get that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    thanks for posting this. I learn a lot from such tables. indeed it's much easier now to play around on vahaduo, we can test models faster, improve them faster, try on more models in less time, which will make us come up with better models in the end. I will try and do some new models I was thinking about, re Yamnaya and that period.
    Check out at the Romanians, higher up the ladder then most think. On par with North Italians and higher than Swiss French.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    Check out at the Romanians, higher up the ladder then most think. On par with North Italians and higher than Swiss French.
    those Dacians must have been truly indo-european

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    Check out at the Romanians, higher up the ladder then most think. On par with North Italians and higher than Swiss French.
    there's something strange about the Romanian and the Moldavian average used for these G25 coords - the Romanian one is very northern-shifted compared to the results of the Romanians I see online (except for some northeast Romanians (Moldovans).

    then, as I've said before, the Moldavian average is totally off - it comes more southwestern-shifted than the Romanian average, which is again against anything I saw online on this, including Eurogenes oracles and individual results of any Rep. of Moldova Romanian/Moldovan ethnic.

    so I suspect some sampling bias.

    however, entire regions of Romania are naturally "above" these results (Moldova, Bucovina, Maramures), so with better sampling it wouldn't be a surprise to see the average is really as northern-shifted as that. but then for Moldova it most definitely isn't the one now in use with Global25.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheOldNorth View Post
    how'd you get that?
    1. go to https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/
    2. place the coords of the calculator populations on SOURCE tab
    3. place the coords of the populations/individuals you want to model on TARGET tab
    4. go to MULTI tab and hit RUN

    I've got the G25 coords from Polako.

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    I declare myself king Corded Ware ! Much greater than King Yamnaya ! :

    Target: Kevin_scaled
    Distance: 4.8743% / 0.04874326

    76.0 Corded_Ware_Baltic
    22.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    1.4 WHG
    0.2 RUS_Karelia_HG

    P.S. I don't feel I need the less relevant samples like Clovis and Yoruba etc.. and I don't have them anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    I declare myself king Corded Ware ! Much greater than King Yamnaya ! :

    Target: Kevin_scaled
    Distance: 4.8743% / 0.04874326

    76.0 Corded_Ware_Baltic
    22.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    1.4 WHG
    0.2 RUS_Karelia_HG

    P.S. I don't feel I need the less relevant samples like Clovis and Yoruba etc.. and I don't have them anyway.
    how did you get the results?

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