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[Jana]

Wrong.
Usora and Soli were under the direct rule of Serbian kings Dragutin and Milutin from Nemanjiće dynasty.
Usora is quite eastern from Vrbas river where was ethnic border between Serbs and Croatians in the middle age.

Ancestors of Dušan and Bosniensis migrated from Usora to the Lika in 16th century. They were part of group known as "Usorci."
"Usorci" are numerous among Lika Serbs.

No. Which part of this sentence you don't understand?

Usora (Latin: Vozora, Hungarian: Ózora) was a semi-independent banate (Duchy) in medieval Bosnia and also an administrative division in Croatia in the union with Hungary.

Ban is exclusively Croatian institution.

[Pribislav]

No. Which part of this sentence you don't understand?


Ban is exclusively Croatian institution.

Ban is tittle of Avar origin.

Region Banat in Serbia and Romania is Croatian?

[War Chef]

Romanian/Moldovan metal currency is called Ban

[Jana]

Croatian (read Jesuit) historiography is full of lies and manipulations. If is sun outside they say it's not day but dark night and vice versa.

I don't think there exist ethnic groups with such lack of dignity as Serbs. You are excellent example. But I figured your tactics long ago, you are in agression all the time so we have no time to question to whom actually Serbia belonged trough history. Every chart that ever came out of Croatia is analysied to the core, desperately looking to find any possible mention of Serbs and Serbia. That's why you photographed entire Dubrovnik archive long time ago but couldn't find much except few sporadic mentions of your folk.

When you answer our questions about Serbian history, mentions of Serbian name and Serbian people on territory of Serbia (for example in Šumadija), than we will discuss the rest.
Because so far I see total lack of information about Serbian territory and to whom does it really belongs, or who were actually Serbs and where do they come from.

I'd also ask you to provide archeological or any other kind of documented evidence for Serbian character of Bosnia, because so far outside of upper Podrinje nothing of relevance has been found.

[Jana]

Ban is tittle of Avar origin.

Region Banat in Serbia and Romania is Croatian?

Not it isn't. Region Banat comes from Ban title that Hungarians adopted after Croatia joined Hungarian crown.

[Pribislav]

Not it isn't. Region Banat comes from Ban title that Hungarians adopted after Croatia joined Hungarian crown.

Ban is originally Turkic Avar tittle, deal with it!

Do you want discussion of Turkic/Avar origin of proto-Croatians, about Q haplogroup on Hvar and Brač, and about weird non-Slavic names of Croatian ruling family from Pannonia in 7th century (Kluk, Muhlo, Lovel, Kosen, Tuga and Vuga/Buga)?

[Roy]

I thought that Sorbs / White Serbs strong connection is generally considered as more of a legend than anything else?

[Pribislav]

Ban is originally Turkic Avar tittle, deal with it!

Do you want discussion of Turkic/Avar origin of proto-Croatians, about Q haplogroup on Hvar and Brač, and about weird non-Slavic names of Croatian ruling family from Pannonia in 7th century (Kluk, Muhlo, Lovel, Kosen, Tuga and Vuga/Buga)?

Turkish historian Osman Karatay about Turkic origin of proto-Croatians http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turk...03CroatsEn.htm

[War Chef]

I thought that Sorbs / White Serbs strong connection is generally considered as more of a legend than anything else?

In that case both Serbs and Croats have Iranic etymology. Their ruling elite and founders were Iranian Sarmatian tribes.

The word Haravat sounds unmistakably Iranic, and Serboi is a tribe. Coincidence? Maybe, but I don't see any other good theories out there.

[Dick]

In that case both Serbs and Croats have Iranic etymology. Their ruling elite and founders were Iranian Sarmatian tribes.

The word Haravat sounds unmistakably Iranic, and Serboi is a tribe. Coincidence? Maybe, but I don't see any other good theories out there.

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