My paleo-Balkan ancestors were Thracians

[vbnetkhio]

Fake Vučedol sample on G25 (actually Balkan neolithic from same location)

Target: HRV_Vucedol
Distance: 3.1323% / 0.03132340

93.8 Sardinian
5.6 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.6 Ju_hoan_North

Distance to: HRV_Vucedol
0.03163849 Sardinian

Can anybody reach out to him and say he should upload actual Vučedol R1b instead? There are 2 or 3 bronze age samples available, they are all good.

ok, now it makes sense. that one with r1b is obvously very indo european, lol

[Jana]

ok, now it makes sense. that one with r1b is obvously very indo european, lol

I wrote about it elsewhere:

''NAPOMENA: ovo nije uzorak Vučedolske kulture, radi se o očiglednoj pogrešci kod imenovanja uzoraka od strane Davidskog, koji ih u uploada na G25 software. Naime, imamo pravi Vučedolski uzorak na gedmatch i nije nimalo nalik ovome, već je jako sličan brončano dobnom uzorku iz Dalmacije, oba su najsličnija Sjevernim Talijanima. Ovaj uzorak uopće nema stepske tj. Indo-Europske genetske primjese i identičan je neolitskom uzorku iz Sopot kulture. A Vučedol je Indo-Europska kultura.

Evo zašto se dogodila greška:

In the 2018 study, 10 out of 17 samples from Croatia had a successful Y-DNA sequencing;...late-Neolithic Sopot(4790-4558 BCE) from Beli Manastir-Popova zemlja to I, two Vučedol (2884-2582 BCE) samples from Beli Manastir-Popova zemlja and Vucedol Tell to R1b1a1a2a2 and G2a2a1a2a...

Sopot uzorci iz prethodnog posta su iz Osijeka, ali postoji još jedan koji je nađen zajedno sa Vučedolskim uzorcima na istoj lokaciji, Popova zemlja. David je očito uplodao taj Sopot uzorak sa Popove zemlje i krivo ga nazvao Vučedolskim. A pravi Vučedolski uzorak nije dostupan na G25, samo na gedmatch. Kontaktirati ću ga da ispravi pogrešku.''

[Jana]

Vučedol on gedmatch is actually neolithic Sopot sample from Popova zemlja, same location where Vučedol bronze age burials were located. Both of them were sequenced and published in academic paper.
Sopot samples from Osijek are available on G25 too, they are identical to this mislabeled ''Vučedol'' sample.

[Dick]

I just want to find out why I don't get any North Italian - if it is supposed to be closest to Illyrians, in all these calculators.
What is your usual non-Slavic part in nmonte and mixed oracle?

Distance to: Dick_scaled

0.03860625 Scythian_HUN
0.04124453 DEU_MA_ACD
0.04392856 BGR_Varna_En3
0.04600005 HUN_MA
0.04630283 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky
0.04803802 HUN_MA_Szolad
0.05021775 ITA_Rome_Renaissance
0.05045205 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.05049105 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.05304502 ITA_Collegno_MA
0.05505445 CZE_Early_Slav
0.05735294 Scythian_MDA
0.05794698 HUN_LBA
0.05938043 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
0.05987774 HUN_BA_o
0.06040158 Levant_LBN_MA_Euro
0.06083896 HUN_MA_Szolad_o2
0.06111763 Bell_Beaker_CHE
0.06142470 Bell_Beaker_CZE
0.06163306 DEU_Lech_EBA
0.06257557 DEU_Lech_BBC
0.06262716 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
0.06387824 DEU_Alberstedt_LN
0.06409007 SVK_Poprad_MA
0.06446861 HUN_Avar_Szolad


Target: Dick_scaled

Distance: 0.9030% / 0.00902972
27.6 KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro
17.6 Bell_Beaker_CZE_o
14.2 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
10.6 MKD_N
7.4 Baltic_LTU_Late_Antiquity_low_res
7.2 USA_colonial_period
4.4 UKR_Cimmerian
4.0 IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA
2.6 UKR_Trypillia
2.2 Anatolia_Kumtepe_N_low_res
1.2 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
0.6 RUS_Yana_MA
0.4 IND_Roopkund_B_o



Distance to: Dick_dad_scaled

0.03769781 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky
0.03783654 Scythian_HUN
0.04099574 DEU_MA_ACD
0.04102466 BGR_Varna_En3
0.04300094 HUN_MA
0.04313454 HUN_MA_Szolad
0.04585076 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.04642891 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.04657769 ITA_Rome_Renaissance
0.05024293 CZE_Early_Slav
0.05050606 ITA_Collegno_MA
0.05344444 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
0.05557298 DEU_Alberstedt_LN
0.05564641 Bell_Beaker_CZE
0.05588509 HUN_LBA
0.05610915 DEU_Lech_EBA
0.05654791 DEU_Lech_BBC
0.05658986 Levant_LBN_MA_Euro
0.05704806 SVK_Poprad_MA
0.05755915 HUN_MA_Szolad_o2
0.05816048 Bell_Beaker_CHE
0.06037068 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.06037117 DEU_MA
0.06040790 CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.06079339 Scythian_MDA


Target: Dick_dad_scaled

Distance: 1.3530% / 0.01352997
35.0 KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro
13.2 USA_colonial_period
10.4 ROU_N
7.6 MKD_N
6.8 UKR_Srubnaya_MLBA
6.4 Bell_Beaker_CZE_o
4.2 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky
3.6 TKM_Parkhai_MBA
2.6 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
2.4 Baltic_LTU_Late_Antiquity_low_res
2.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia
1.8 HUN_MA_Szolad_o1
1.0 Anatolia_Kumtepe_N_low_res
0.8 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
0.8 UZB_Bustan_BA_o1
0.6 VUT_150BP_all
0.4 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
0.2 UZB_Sappali_Tepe_BA_o

[Dna8]

Not wanting to poach any thunder from Thread Father, but the below thread may interest some of you:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...d-Dacian-Zones

[Dna8]

Let us describe "Illyrians"/"Thracians"/"Dacians" as what they (truly and only) are!

Constructs!