Is my mother ''German'' actually Germanised Slovenian?

[Jana]

Post her DNA Land. Does she have German matches on GEDmatch or elsewhere?

Her DNA Land shows 0% NW Euro?

0% NW Euro on DNA Land. I am on mobile so can't post it.
She scores 15% Finnish on DNA Land, it doesn't make sense.

[Samnium]

^^^
Okay I misunderstood your post, I thought you meant there is a gap between SW and SE.

And you meant NW vs. SW-SE. Yes I agree, no big difference between SW and SE.

On the other hand, East Germany is very different from both North-Western and Southern.



There is more difference between SW French and SE French, than between SW German and SE German.

Provence is different than Aquitaine. Aquitanians are simply Latinized Basques. Aquitanians are not Celts.

Yes Aquitanians are Basque people that retained less the "original" profile of this region. Aquitanians were clearly separated from Celts I agree. To me Celtic areas begin around Auvergne (Vercingetorix was an auvergnat).

The G25 average of Marseille is N.Italian like, I would expect this only from areas close to Italy though. Others will show some influence of course but not to the point of plotting in N.Italy. We can discuss that on another thread if you want !

[Jana]

The thing is that you can inherit various proportions and theoretically you should get 50/50 from your two parents but your plotting can be like "60% father" and "40% mother". What I observed by the way it's that most of the time it's the "father" side that shift the more. You can inherit little from one grandparent (or great-grandparent) and much more for another, it's not exactly 25/25/25/25, or 12.5/... . The more you go back in time the less you're "related".

Yes, my father is genetically much closer to me and I look more like him too, apart from hair color and some little details.

[21993]

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Oracle might give her a better estimation I guess.

[Peterski]

"Geographical traces of the Basque language in Roman times; blue patch: maximum extension":

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...fikoak.svg.png



It is surprising how well genetics still follows those bygone linguistic divisions.

And the same in East Germany, "Limes Sorabicus" can be still seen in genes:

https://www.theapricity.com/earlson/reeh/maps/mapxx.jpg



^^^
This thick line in the east:

[Lemgrant]

Ljubic scores German on 23andme in amount he expected, I don't (only 4 percent NW Euro and 2 percent French and German)

you have 7.8% broadly Euro , that can be anything, including German. And you score 4% NW at 50% speculative level after smoothing, which means that if you have many 30% German/ 70% South Euro segments, the German part is completely ignored and they assign only South Euro at 50% speculative level results.

[Lemgrant]

https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/...ry-Composition

Confidence Levels
The algorithm we use to calculate your Ancestry Composition analyzes one small piece of your DNA at a time. For each piece of your DNA, we calculate the probability of that piece coming from 45 different populations. Each prediction is also linked to our confidence that the call is correct. By default, Ancestry Composition requires that our confidence in a prediction be greater than 50%. This confidence threshold allows the most DNA to be assigned and provides the most interesting view of your ancestry.

If you’d like to explore these assignments at a more advanced level, click on “Change confidence level” and move the slider that appears above your Chromosome Painting. The confidence slider on the Chromosome Painting allows you to explore our estimates of your genetic ancestry at different probability cutoffs. For example, if a segment of your DNA has a 55 percent chance of being Japanese, then that segment will be painted as Japanese at the 50 percent confidence level, but it will be painted with a more broad ancestry (either Broadly Japanese & Korean, Broadly East Asian & Native American, or Unassigned) at the 60 to 90 percent confidence levels.

[Jana]

you have 7.8% broadly Euro , that can be anything, including German. And you score 4% NW at 50% speculative level after smoothing, which means that if you have many 30% German/ 70% South Euro segments, the German part is completely ignored and they assign only South Euro at 50% speculative level results.

Thanks for clarification!

[Benyzero]

While there were cases when the Habsburgs have colonized Hungary with Germans from Bavaria and Baden-Württemberg, the majority came from West Germany, like Alsace-Lorraine, Rhineland, Palatinate, Hesse. For example I traced back dozens towards hundreds of my Danube Swabian ancestors and almost couldn't find one from South Germany. The reason that they all got labeled Swabians is because they boarded boats from Ulm, in Swabia.

Okay. Good to know. I knew there is another input but zhought that is from only old times in the time of goths, frankish kingdom etc.

[SharpFork]

"Geographical traces of the Basque language in Roman times; blue patch: maximum extension":

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...fikoak.svg.png



It is surprising how well genetics still follows those bygone linguistic divisions.

And the same in East Germany, "Limes Sorabicus" can be still seen in genes:

https://www.theapricity.com/earlson/reeh/maps/mapxx.jpg



^^^
This thick line in the east:

If so which historical border does the North-West/South German division follow? La-Tene/Hallstatt? Roman Empire(pre-250)? Would people from West of the Rhine in Nordrhein-Westfalen look like they southern neighbour or like Lower Saxons? If they do with the former it would look a lot like the La Tene border and also a lot like the Low German and High German dialectal division.