Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

[Lemgrant]

I am not happy with my father being close to Serbs because he is not south shifted Croat, he is average Croat (who never got Serbs close on gedmatch)
Serbs like Dušan get hysterical when close to Croats too.

We don't like Serbs, they don't like us and we are genetically not the same. What is hard to understand?
I already made South_Croat Morlach average which is closest to proper Serbs, and have no problem with it because it's realistic.

Bosnian Serb average isn't. Serbs live all over Bosnia and if more people were added from more southernly parts they would not be so close to Croats.

so what if you don't like it? there is also one Ukrainian user here (Art23) that gets hysterical when he gets "Russian" or anything related to Russia in his results. I find it hilarious. Not sure, but he may get Russia in his 23andme results because there are millions Ukrainians in Russia, or maybe he is not aware of all his ancestors.
Plotting close to something does not always indicate real ancestry. You can be half Serbian and half British and plot like average Austrian (like Ayetooey), so what, he should be offended by his position on pca or oracle results? we should remove the Austrian reference because he doesn't like Austrians for example?

[ph2ter]

Some more K13 averages:

Albanian,21.07,17.56,23.81,11.15,23.81,1.62,0.25,0.07,0.15,0.13,0.17,0.00,0.00
Algerian,13.95,0.61,24.25,0.00,27.47,14.21,0.00,0.31,0.12,0.10,0.39,8.89,9.66
Danish,48.13,28.42,11.20,4.88,3.64,0.68,1.07,0.07,0.93,0.45,0.25,0.16,0.10
English,49.96,23.98,13.57,5.83,3.30,0.62,0.85,0.13,0.22,0.35,0.38,0.13,0.13
German_east,36.93,36.50,12.59,5.57,4.79,0.78,0.69,0.09,0.30,0.78,0.55,0.15,0.20
German_West,45.37,25.20,13.22,7.02,5.78,0.85,0.30,0.58,0.39,0.37,0.11,0.35,0.14
North-Dutch,51.14,26.48,10.78,5.58,2.75,0.38,1.17,0.02,0.38,0.22,0.22,0.10,0.02
North-Swedish,44.53,36.23,6.25,3.95,0.66,0.40,1.26,0.39,4.94,0.62,0.60,0.09,0.14
Scottish,52.74,22.77,12.06,6.59,1.74,0.62,1.28,0.04,0.43,0.97,0.40,0.07,0.04
Slovakian,29.47,38.84,11.90,5.00,8.64,2.35,1.09,0.00,0.94,0.88,0.64,0.07,0.18
Slovene,30.66,34.00,14.71,7.03,9.92,1.18,0.72,0.32,0.46,0.51,0.32,0.10,0.07
South_Dutch,44.59,22.22,15.74,6.01,7.37,1.47,1.05,0.20,0.84,0.24,0.02,0.09,0.16
Swedish,48.45,30.99,9.81,3.64,2.43,0.84,1.41,0.21,0.68,0.56,0.40,0.32,0.23
Swiss_French,37.79,20.53,19.52,7.90,10.97,1.49,0.27,0.26,0.44,0.44,0.36,0.04,0.00
Swiss_German,40.15,22.01,17.27,6.58,10.31,1.90,0.08,0.28,0.25,0.52,0.29,0.29,0.09
Swiss_Italian,36.35,15.43,23.16,2.81,18.65,2.71,0.26,0.00,0.41,0.00,0.18,0.08,0.00
Welsh,51.09,22.22,15.85,6.86,0.43,1.18,0.40,0.58,0.00,0.74,0.38,0.17,0.12

EUtest:

Kaikavian_Croatian,23.50,17.22,18.47,17.04,9.49,8.05,5.21,0.37,0.48,0.00,0.16,0.00,0.00

[Morlak]

k13
Distance to: morlak
3.56569769 Romanian_Transylvania
3.65406623 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
3.86826835 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
3.93570631 Serbian_new
4.37617139 Montenegrin
5.45135028 Macedonian
5.48305572 Romanian_Oltenia
5.50760408 Bosnian
5.53452798 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
5.99600700 Croat_Split
6.13970989 Serbian_Bosnia
6.94177931 Szekely
6.96043820 Romanian_Muntenia
7.24777897 Bulgarian
8.13154967 Moldavian
8.78695055 Csango_Gymes
9.08145810 North_Macedonian
9.54484154 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster
10.86526571 Slovenian
11.34314771 Croatian
12.39668907 Hungarian
13.13552769 Kosovo_Albanian
14.05566790 Albanian
14.35261649 Kaykavian_Croatian
15.08873740 Slovak

Target: moralk
Distance: 1.0061% / 1.00612675
22.0 Macedonian
20.4 South_Polish
18.6 Romanian_Muntenia
11.2 Ukrainian_Belgorod
9.0 Sardinian
6.8 Polish
5.2 Laz
4.2 Albanian
1.4 Georgian_imereti
1.2 Dai


k15
Distance to: morlak
6.82126088 Romania_Se
7.57150620 Montenegrin
8.67752269 Romania_Nw
8.73471808 South_Serbian
9.09948438 Bosnian
9.17187549 Romania_Sw
9.21227985 Romania_South
9.28128864 Serbian_Bosnia
9.44176361 Serbian
9.44239906 Moldavian
9.99305759 Romania_Ne
10.29775704 Romanian
10.48350872 Macedonian
10.56819284 Bosniak
11.14978475 Bulgarian
11.91198556 Gagauz
12.13231223 Hungarian
12.18895709 Szekely
12.77361734 Macedonian_2
12.98228171 Slovenian
13.50683901 Croatian
14.48580770 Slovak
15.35330909 Albanian-Kosovo
15.38509993 Kaykavian_Croatian
15.48446641 Austria-Burgenland

Target: morlak
Distance: 5.0911% / 5.09108258
73.6 Romania_Se
14.8 Ukrainian
6.8 Tabassaran
4.8 West_Norwegian

[Leto]

so what if you don't like it? there is also one Ukrainian user here (Art23) that gets hysterical when he gets "Russian" or anything related to Russia in his results. I find it hilarious. Not sure, but he may get Russia in his 23andme results because there are millions Ukrainians in Russia, or maybe he is not aware of all his ancestors.

Ukraine also has many Russians in the East and Southeast, maybe now many started calling themselves Ukrainian, I don't know but back in 1989 20-40% declared Russian ethnicity during the census (depending on the oblast). It's all the same to me, Kiev is the cradle of Russia and 70% of the pop don't live in Galicia or Volyn (the most distant Ukrainians). if the Sicilians can be the same nation with the Lombardians, we East Slavs can be even more so. That guy represents modern UA "nationalism" very well. Not a positive identity but negative as they care more about being non-Russian than Ukrainian. Really makes you think.
P.S. Just my take on that.

[Ford]

It's weird to constantly see both Croatians and Serbians claim Bosnians as part of their nation, however both sides fail to understand that Bosnians are a very old, distinct Medieval entity in the Western Balkans, often caught in a feud between Kingdom of Hungary and the Byzantine Empire. They are their own nation, which only in modern times was separated into 3 different parts, because of religious divisions. But Medieval Bosnia even had their own Church, separate from both Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox ones.

"The Bosnian Church was a Christian church in medieval Bosnia that was independent of and considered heretical by both the Roman Catholic and the Eastern Orthodox hierarchies.

The East–West Schism then led to the establishment of Roman Catholicism in Croatia and most of Dalmatia, while Eastern Orthodoxy came to prevail in Serbia. Lying in-between, the mountainous Bosnia was nominally under Rome, but Catholicism never became firmly established due to a weak church organization and poor communications. Medieval Bosnia thus remained a "no-man's land between faiths" rather than a meeting ground between the two Churches, leading to a unique religious history and the emergence of an "independent and somewhat heretical church".

Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy predominated in different parts of what is today Bosnia and Herzegovina; the followers of the former formed a majority in the west, the north and in the center of Bosnia, while those of the latter were a majority in most of Zachlumia (present-day Herzegovina) and along Bosnia's eastern border. This changed in the mid-13th century, when the Bosnian Church began eclipsing the Roman. While Bosnia remained nominally Catholic in the High Middle Ages, the Bishop of Bosnia was a local cleric chosen by Bosnians and then sent to the Archbishop of Ragusa solely for ordination. Although the Papacy already insisted on using Latin as the liturgical language, Bosnian Catholics retained Church Slavonic language."

Bosnian church was never widespread among the lower classes and only briefly among the nobles.

[Cumansky]

Ukraine also has many Russians in the East and Southeast, maybe now many started calling themselves Ukrainian, I don't know but back in 1989 20-40% declared Russian ethnicity during the census (depending on the oblast). It's all the same to me, Kiev is the cradle of Russia and 70% of the pop don't live in Galicia or Volyn (the most distant Ukrainians). if the Sicilians can be the same nation with the Lombardians, we East Slavs can be even more so. That guy represents modern UA "nationalism" very well. Not a positive identity but negative as they care more about being non-Russian than Ukrainian. Really makes you think.
P.S. Just my take on that.

My take, 1989 there was no Ukraine, 1989 there was no Belarus

You are all no offence, fake

But I am 1/2 Cossack so fuck you my friend I can say what I want when I want

[Nurzat]

Ukraine also has many Russians in the East and Southeast, maybe now many started calling themselves Ukrainian, I don't know but back in 1989 20-40% declared Russian ethnicity during the census (depending on the oblast). It's all the same to me, Kiev is the cradle of Russia and 70% of the pop don't live in Galicia or Volyn (the most distant Ukrainians). if the Sicilians can be the same nation with the Lombardians, we East Slavs can be even more so. That guy represents modern UA "nationalism" very well. Not a positive identity but negative as they care more about being non-Russian than Ukrainian. Really makes you think.
P.S. Just my take on that.

українці Карпат - сицилійці східних слов'ян

[Leto]

My take, 1989 there was no Ukraine, 1989 there was no Belarus

You are all no offence, fake

But I am 1/2 Cossack so fuck you my friend I can say what I want when I want

Dude, I don't care about your ancestry, go be angry elsewhere. I identify as Russian and you barely understood my post.

[vbnetkhio]

k13

did you get Serbian 1st before? we should add a more southern Serbian average again

[Cumansky]

Dude, I don't care about your ancestry, go be angry elsewhere. I identify as Russian and you barely understood my post.

Я думал, что ты белорус. Твой язык глуп, это была пропаганда, чтобы этнически очистить тебя.

Even Nursultan Kazakh President said fuck this language, but Russian is dumbest race even worse than other Cyrillic village idiots