Are Kazakhs indeed Turkified Mongols?

[Leto]

Aleksandr Marochkin is a Kazakhstan Russian, not an ethnic Kazakh. Looks part Asian but I guess that's okay for Siberian/Ural Russians (Northern Kazakhstan used to be an extension of Siberia before the Soviet nation-building)


Thin Nordic features and light pigmentation plus Asian chinky eyes.

[Leto]

Regarding the question, the Kazakhs are not the same as the Mongols autosomally. Khalkha Mongols are 80-90% East Eurasian while Kazakhs are 55-65%. Sure they have a lot of shared ancestry but then again, the Turkic homeland was located somewhere in modern Mongolia, at least partially. Do not be confused by Y DNA data, the Kyrgyz are 50-60% R1a-Z93 for example.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

For example, Kazakh language is specific and distinct because of its harsh guttural K sound. Such sounds is present only in Eastern Eurasian languages which correlate with migration of haplogroup Q ( in Ket, Chukchi, Eskimo languages). Sure its not only this one sound. The general sound of these languages is similar also.

Are you talking about /q/ (voiceless uvular stop)?

According to eurasianphonology.info, /q/ is also included in these languages:

Indo-Iranian: Lemi Chin, Khowar, Shughni, Rushani, Khufi, Sarikoli, Yazghulami, Kalam (Swat-Dir) Kohistani, Wotapuri-Katarqalai, Domari, Southern Pashai, Kalkoti, Kumzari, Dari, Sorani
Caucasian: Adyghe, Dargwa, Hinuq
Semitic: Kuwaiti Arabic, Barwar Neo-Aramaic, Betanure Neo-Aramaic, Arbel Neo-Aramaic, Amədya Neo-Aramaic, Alqosh Neo-Aramaic
Isolate: Burushaki

Output of `curl http://eurasianphonology.info/static/phono_dbase.json|jq -r '.[]|.name+": "+(.cons|join(" "))'|grep ' q '`:

Spoiler!

Lemi Chin: b p pʰ d t tʰ k kʰ q qχ ʔ m n ŋ v f s sʰ h l r j
Khowar: p b pʰ t̪ d̪ t̪ʰ ʈ ɖ ʈʰ k g kʰ q m n̪ ts dz tsʰ ʈʂ ɖʐ ʈʂʰ tɕ dʑ tɕʰ f s z ʂ ʐ ɕ ʑ x ɣ h ɾ ʋ j ɫ l
Shughni: p b t d k g q ts dz tʃ dʒ l m n w f v s z θ ð j x ɣ χ ʁ ʃ ʒ r
Rushani: p b t d k g q ts dz tʃ dʒ l m n w f v s z θ ð j x ɣ χ ʁ ʃ ʒ r
Khufi: p b t d k g q ts dz tʃ dʒ l m n w f v s z θ ð j x ɣ χ ʁ ʃ ʒ r
Sarikoli: p b t d k g q ts dz tʃ dʒ l m n s z ʃ ʒ f v θ ð x ɣ χ ʁ w j r
Yazghulami: p b t d c ɟ k g kʷ gʷ q qʷ ts dz tʃ dʒ l m n w f v s z θ ð j x ɣ χ ʁ ʃ ʒ χʷ ʁʷ xʷ r
Kalam (Swat-Dir) Kohistani: p t ʈ k q pʰ tʰ ʈʰ kʰ b d ɖ g ts ʈʂ tʃ tsʰ ʈʂʰ tʃʰ dʒ f s ʂ ʃ x h z ɣ m n ɳ ŋ ɬ l r w j
Wotapuri-Katarqalai: p t ʈ k q pʰ tʰ ʈʰ kʰ b d ɖ g ts ʈʂ tsʰ ʈʂʰ dz dʒ f s ʂ x h z m n ɳ r ɽ ɭ l w j
Adyghe: m n r w j b p pʼ pʼʷ d t tʼ tʼʷ ɡʷ k kʷ kʼ kʼʷ q qʷ ʔʼ ʔʼʷ f z s dz ts tsʼ ʒ ʃ tʃ tʃʼ ʑ ɕ dʑ tɕ tɕʼ ẑ ẑʷ ŝ ŝʷ ŝʼ ŝʼʷ dẑʷ tŝʷ ɮ ɬ ɬʼ ɣ x xʷ ʁ ʁʷ χ χʷ h
Mongghul (Huzhu Monguor): pʰ tʰ kʰ p t k q tsʰ tʃʰ ʈʂʰ ts tʃ ʈʂ f s ʃ ʂ x m n ŋ l r w j
Eastern Yugur: pʰ tʰ kʰ qʰ p t k q tsʰ tʃʰ ts tʃ s ʃ χ h β ɣ ʁ m n ŋ l r j l̥ n̥ j̊
Dongxiang: pʰ tʰ kʰ qʰ p t k q tsʰ tʃʰ ʈʂʰ ts tʃ ʈʂ s ʃ ʂ x h ʐ ʁ m n ŋ l r w j
Mangghuer (Minhe Monguor): pʰ tʰ kʰ p t k q tsʰ tʃʰ ʈʂʰ ts tʃ ʈʂ f s ʃ ʂ x m n ŋ l r w j
Baoan (Ñantoq): pʰ tʰ kʰ p t k q tsʰ tʃʰ ts tʃ f s ʂ ç χ h ʒ m n ŋ l r w j
Caodeng rGyalrong: p t c k q pʰ tʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ b d ɟ ɡ ⁿb ⁿd ⁿɟ ⁿɡ ⁿɢ ts ʈʂ tʃ tsʰ ʈʂʰ tʃʰ dz ɖʐ dʒ ⁿdz ⁿɖʐ ⁿdʒ m n ɲ ŋ f s ʂ ʃ x χ v z ʒ ɣ ʁ r l̥ l w j ʔ
Khalong Tibetan: p t ts ʈʂ c tʃ k q ⁿpʰ ⁿtʰ ⁿtsʰ ⁿcʰ ⁿtʃʰ ⁿkʰ pʰ tʰ tsʰ ʈʂʰ cʰ tʃʰ kʰ qʰ b d ɖʐ ɟ dʒ ɡ ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdz ⁿɖʐ ⁿɟ ⁿdʒ ⁿɡ f s ʂ ʃ x χ m n ɲ ŋ m̥ n̥ ɲ̊ ŋ̊ r l l̥ j
Yongning Na (Mosuo): pʰ p b tʰ t d kʰ k ɡ qʰ q ɢ m n ɲ f s z ɕ ʑ ʂ ʐ ɣ h tsʰ ts dz tɕʰ tɕ dʑ ʈʂʰ ʈʂ ɖʐ l̥ w j l
Zhongu Tibetan: p ʰp pʰ ⁿpʰ b ⁿb m̥ m w t ʰt tʰ ⁿtʰ d ⁿd s z n̥ n l̥ l r̥ r ts ʰts tsʰ ⁿtsʰ dz ⁿdz ʈʂ ʈʂʰ ⁿʈʂʰ ɖʐ ⁿɖʐ ʂ ʐ tʃ ʰtʃ tʃʰ ⁿtʃʰ dʒ ⁿdʒ ʃ ʒ ɲ̊ ɲ k ʰk kʰ ⁿkʰ g ⁿg ŋ̊ ŋ ɣ q qʰ χ ʁ
gSerpa: p pʰ b ⁿb m v t tʰ d ⁿd n s z r l l̥ ts tsʰ ⁿdz ʈʂ ʈʂʰ ɖʐ ⁿɖʐ ʂ c cʰ ɟ ⁿɟ j tʃ tʃʰ dʒ ⁿdʒ ɲ ʃ ʒ k kʰ g ⁿg ŋ x ɣ q qʰ χ ʁ h
Modern Aramaic (Northeastern): p b t d tʃ dʒ k g q ʕ ʔ f v x ɣ ħ s z ʃ ʒ m n l r w j h pˤ bˤ tˤ dˤ sˤ zˤ mˤ tʃˤ lˤ rˤ
Kangjia: pʰ tʰ kʰ qʰ p t k q tsʰ tʃʰ ts tʃ f s ʃ χ h v z ɣ ʁ m n ŋ l r j
Japhug: p t c k q pʰ tʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ b d ɟ ɡ ⁿb ⁿd ⁿɟ ⁿɡ ⁿɢ ts tɕ ʈʂ tsʰ tɕʰ ʈʂʰ dz dʑ ɖʐ ⁿdz ⁿdʑ ⁿɖʐ m n ɲ ŋ s ɕ ʂ x χ z ʑ ɣ ʁ w l r j l̥ ʔ
Hmong Njua (Green Hmong): p t c k q ʔ pʰ tʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ ⁿp ⁿt ⁿc ⁿk ⁿq ⁿpʰ ⁿtʰ ⁿcʰ ⁿkʰ ⁿqʰ ts tʃ ʈʂ tsʰ tʃʰ ʈʂʰ ⁿts ⁿtʃ ⁿʈʂ ⁿtsʰ ⁿtʃʰ ⁿʈʂʰ m n ɲ ŋ v ʒ j f s ʃ ç h sʰ l ɬ
Shixing: p pʰ b ⁿb t̪ t̪ʰ d̪ ⁿd̪ k kʰ q qʰ ⁿɢ ʔ g ⁿg m m̥ n̪ n̥̪ ɲ ŋ t̪s̪ t̪s̪ʰ d̪z̪ ʈʂ ʈʂʰ ɖʐ tɕ tɕʰ ⁿd̪z̪ ⁿɖʐ dʑ ⁿdʑ s̪ z̪ ʂ ʐ ɕ ʑ x χ ʁ h ɦ ɬ̪ w r̪ j l̪
Lahu (Black): p t tʃ k q pʰ tʰ tʃʰ kʰ qʰ b d dʒ ɡ m n ŋ f ʃ x v l j ɣ
Sui: p t ts tɕ k q ʔ pʰ tʰ tsʰ tɕʰ kʰ qʰ ⁿb ⁿd ɡ ʼɡ ɢ ʼb ʼd m̥ n̥ ɲ̊ ŋ̊ ʼm ʼn ʼɲ ʼŋ m n ɲ ŋ f s ɕ x h v l z j ɣ ʁ ʼw ʼj ʼɣ
Malto: p b m w t̪ d̪ n̪ θ̪ s r l ʈ ɖ ɽ c ɟ ɲ j k g ŋ q ɣ h
Northern Qiang (Yadu): p t̪ k q pʰ t̪ʰ kʰ qʰ b d̪ g ts ʈʂ tɕ tsʰ ʈʂʰ tɕʰ dz ɖʐ dʑ ɸ s ʂ ɕ x χ h z ʐ ʁ ɦ m n̪ ɲ ŋ ɬ l w j
Balti (Kharkoo): p pʰ b t tʰ d k kʰ g ts tsʰ tʃ tʃʰ dʒ ʈʂ ʈʂʰ ɖʐ ʈ ʈʰ ɖ q s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ h l̥ l m n ŋ w j
Purki: p pʰ b t̪ t̪ʰ d̪ k kʰ g q χ ɢ ts tsʰ tʃ tʃʰ dʒ s z ʃ ʒ x h m n ɲ ŋ l r w j
Tsez (Asax): p b t̪ d̪ k g q qˤ ʡ pʼ t̪ʼ kʼ qʼ qˤʼ ts tʃ tsʼ tʃʼ s z ʃ ʒ χ ʁ ʁˤ ʜ h m n̪ r̪ t̪ɬ t̪ɬʼ ɬ l w j
Northern Qiang (Hongyan): p t̪ k q pʰ t̪ʰ kʰ qʰ b d̪ g ts tʂ tɕ tsʰ tʂʰ tɕʰ dz dʐ dʑ s ʂ ɕ x χ h z ʐ ʑ ʁ ɦ m n̪ ɲ ŋ l ɬ w j
Lizu: p pʰ b t tʰ d k kʰ g q qʰ ʔ ts tsʰ dz tʃ tʃʰ dʒ tɕ tɕʰ dʑ m n ɲ ŋ s z ʃ ʒ ɕ ʑ x ɣ h w ɹ j l ɬ ⁿpʰ ⁿb ⁿtʰ ⁿd ⁿtsʰ ⁿdz ⁿtʃʰ ⁿdʒ ⁿtɕʰ ⁿdʑ ŋ̩
Puxi: p t̪ k q pʰ t̪ʰ kʰ qʰ b d̪ g t̪s̪ t̪s̪ʰ d̪z̪ ʈʂ ʈʂʰ ɖʐ tɕ tɕʰ dʑ f s ʂ ɕ χ z ʐ ʁ m n̪ ɲ ŋ l m̩ n̪̩ ŋ̩
Dari: p b t d k g q m n f s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ h tʃ dʒ ɾ w j l
Hinuq: p p’ b t̪ t̪’ d̪ k k’ g q q’ ʡ ʔ kʷ k’ʷ gʷ qʷ q’ʷ f s z ɬ ʃ ʒ χ ʁ ħ h χʷ ʁʷ ts ts’ tɬ tɬ’ tʃ tʃ’ m n̪ r̪ l v j
Kumzari: p b t d tˤ dˤ k g q ʔ tʃ dʒ m n f s sˤ zˤ ʃ χ ʁ ħ ɦ ɻ j w l
Alqosh Neo-Aramaic: p t tʃ k q ʔ b d dʒ g tˤ tʃˤ f θ s ʃ x ħ h v ð z ɣ sˤ ðˤ zˤ m n l r rˤ w j ʕ
Amədya Neo-Aramaic: pʰ b pˤ bˤ tʰ d tˤ dˤ kʰ g q ʔ f v θ ðˤ s z sˤ zˤ ʃ ʒ x ɣ ħ h m mˤ n r ɻˤ j w ʕ l tʃ tʃˤ dʒʰ
Arbel Neo-Aramaic: b pʰ f w m tʰ d n r l ʃ ʒ s z tˤ sˤ dˤ zˤ tʃʰ dʒ j kʰ g x ɣ q ʔ h ʕ ħ
Betanure Neo-Aramaic: b d dˤ g p pˤ t tˤ k q ʔ dʒ tʃ tʃˤ ð z ʒ ʁ ʕ θ s sˤ ʃ x ħ h m mˤ n l lˤ r rˤ w j
Barwar Neo-Aramaic: pʰ pˤ b tʰ tˤ d tʃˤ kʰ g q ʔ θ s ð z sˤ ʃ x ɣ ħ h m mˤ n l lˤ w j tʃʰ rˤ r
Kalkoti: p t ʈ k q pʰ tʰ kʰ b d ɖ g m n ts ʈʂ tɕ tɕʰ dʑ s ʂ ɕ x z ɣ r ʋ j l
Darra-i-Nur Pashai (Southeast Pashai): p t ʈ k q b d ɖ g tʃ dʒ s ʂ ʃ z f x h ɣ r ɽ ɬ l m n ɳ ŋ w j
Mehweb: b d g gʷ p t k kʷ q qʷ ʔ ʔʷ pʼ tʼ kʼ kʼʷ qʼ qʼʷ s ʃ ɣ ʁ ʁʷ z ʒ x χ χʷ ħ ħʷ h hʷ ts tʃ tsʼ tʃʼ m w n l r j
Domari (Aleppo): m n p b t d k g q ʔ f s z ʃ x ɣ ħ ʕ h tˤ dˤ zˤ tʃ dʒ ʋ j r l
Xong: p pʰ ⁿp ⁿpʰ pʲ pʲʰ ⁿpʲʰ t tʰ ⁿt ⁿtʰ tʲ tʲʰ ⁿtʲ ⁿtʲʰ ts tsʰ ⁿts ⁿtsʰ tɕ tɕʰ ⁿtɕ ⁿtɕʰ ʈʂ ʈʂʰ ⁿʈʂ ⁿʈʂʰ k kʰ ⁿk ⁿkʰ kʲ kʲʰ ⁿkʲ ⁿkʲʰ q qʰ ⁿq ⁿqʰ qʷ qʷʰ ⁿqʷ ⁿqʷʰ m mʰ mʲ f ʋ n nʰ l lʰ nʲ lʲ lʲʰ s ɕ j ɳ ʂ ʐ ŋ ŋʷ h hʷ m̩
Standard Arabic (Kuwait): b tʰ d kʰ q ʔ m n f θ ð s z ʃ x ɣ ħ h dʒ r j w l tˤ dˤ sˤ ðˤ lˤ ʔ̙
Iron Ossetic: b pʰ p’ d̪ t̪ʰ t̪’ g gʷ kʰ kʷ k’ k’ʷ q qʷ ʔ f v s z ʒ ʃ ʁ ʁʷ χ χʷ h dz ts ts’ dʒ tʃ tʃ’ m n l r w j
Digor Ossetic: b pʰ p’ d̪ t̪ʰ t̪’ g gʷ kʰ kʷ k’ k’ʷ q qʷ ʔ f v s z ʁ ʁʷ χ χʷ h dz ts ts’ m n l r w j
Sakha (Standard): p b m t̺ s̻ d̺ n̺ r ɫ̺ ɲ cç ɟʝ j j̃ k g ŋ q ʁ ħ
Dolgan: m b p n d t s ɫ r ɲ ɟ c dʒ tʃ j ŋ g ɢ q h ɬ r̥
Dargwa (Icari): b p pː p’ d̪ t̪ t̪ː t̪’ z̪ s̪ s̪ː t̪s̪ t̪s̪ː t̪s̪’ ʒ ʃː tʃ tʃː tʃ’ k kː k’ ɣ x xː q qː q’ ʁ χ χː kʷ kːʷ k’ʷ ɣʷ xʷ xːʷ qʷ qːʷ q’ʷ ʁʷ χʷ χːʷ ʡ’ ħ ʔ h w j m n l r
Sumi (Sema): p pʰ b mʰ m f v t tʰ d nʰ n ɹ lʰ l tʃ tʃʰ ʃ ʒ k kʰ g x ɣ ŋ q qʰ h
Khalaj: p b t̪ d̪ k g q ɢ x ɣ χ ʁ tʃ s ʃ z n j l r ħ
Bashkir: pʰ b m w θ ð tʰ d s l n r ʃ j kʰ g x ŋ q ʁ h
Tatar (Standard): p b t̪ d̪ s̪ z̪ m n̪ β l r ɕ ʃ ʒ ʑ j k g ŋ q χ ʁ ʔ h v f ts tɕ ɕː
Uyghur (Xinjiang): p b m w n̪ t̪ d̪ s z l r tʃ dʒ ʃ ʒ j k g ŋ q x ʁ ʔ h f v ts ɕː
Kyrgyz (Standard): p b f v m t̪ d̪ t̪s̪ s̪ z̪ tʃ dʒ ʃ n ɫ r j q χ ɢ ɴ
Northern Altai (Kumandy): p pː m t tː s̺ ɕ r̺ l̺ n cçː c ɲ q qː ɣ ŋ ʔ
Tuvan (Standard): b̥ β g ɣ d̪̥ t̪ʰ ʒ ʃ s z q l m n̪ ŋ pʰ ɾ χ h tʃ j ts p b f v t̪ d̪
Kumyk: b p v f m d̪ t̪ z s dʒ tʃ ʒ ʃ n l r k g q ʁ χ ɴ h
Kazakh: b p m w v f d t z s ts tʃ n l ʒ ʃ ɕ ɣ r k g q ʁ χ ɴ h
Karakalpak: b p w m v f d t z s ts n l ʒ ʃ tʃ dʒ r ɣ k g q ʁ χ ɴ h
Nogai: b p w v m d t ʒ ʃ z s n l r g k ɣ q ʁ χ ɴ
Uzbek: pʰ b f w m tʰ d s z n l r kʰ g ʃ ʒ tʃ dʒ ɣ q ʁ χ ŋ h
Balkar: b p d t w v f m z s ʒ ʃ dʒ tʃ n l r g k ɣ q ʁ χ ɴ
Atayal: p t k q ʔ β ʒ ɣ s x ħ ts r l m n j w
Sorani Kurdish: p b m w f v t̪ d̪ s̪ z̪ n̪ l̪ ɫ̪ ɾ̪ r̪ sˤ tʃ dʒ ʃ ʒ j k g x ɣ ŋ q ħ ʕ ʔ h
Lak (Kumux): p pʼ pː b m w t̪ t̪ʼ t̪ː d̪ n̪ l̪ r̪ t̪s̪ t̪s̪ʼ t̪s̪ː s̪ s̪ː z̪ tʃ tʃː tʃʼ ʃ ʃː ʒ j k kʼ kː ɣ x xː q qʼ qː χ χː ʁ ʜ h ʔ tʃʷ tʃːʷ tʃʼʷ ʃʷ ʃːʷ ʒʷ kʷ kʼʷ kːʷ ɣʷ xʷ xːʷ qʷ qʼʷ qːʷ χʷ χːʷ
Burushaski (Hunza): p pʰ b f m w t tʰ d n l ts tsʰ z s r ʈ ʈʰ ɖ tɕ tɕʰ dʑ ɕ j ʈʂ ʈʂʰ ɖʐ ʂ ʐʲ k kʰ g x ŋ q qʰ ɢ h
Kolyma Yukaghir: p t d k g q tɕ dʑ ʃ ʒ ʁ m n ɲ ŋ l ʎ r w j
Tundra Yukaghir: p b t d tʃ dʒ k g q ʁ s m n ɲ ŋ r l j w ʎ
Taz Selkup: p t tɕ k q s ɕ m n nʲ r l lʲ w j ŋ
Tajik (Bukhara): p b m f v t̪ d̪ s z n ɾ l ɕ tɕ ʑ dʑ j k g q χ ʁ h
Nivkh (West Sakhalin): pʰ p ɸ β m w tʰ t r̥ r n l cç cçʰ s z ɲ j k kʰ x ɣ ŋ q qʰ χ ʁ h
Domari (Palestinian): p b m f v w t̪ d̪ n̪ s̪ z̪ l̪ r̪ t̪ˤ d̪ˤ s̪ˤ z̪ˤ tʃ dʒ ʃ ʒ j k g x ɫ ɣ q χ ħ ʕ h ʔ
Eastern Khanty (Vakh): p v m t s n l ʈʂ ɳ ɭ r c j ɲ ʎ q ʁ ŋ
Naukan Yupik: p m w v t s l̥ l n r j k x ɣ ŋ q χ ʁ
Itelmen: p pʼ t̺ t̺ʼ k kʼ q q̺ t̺ɕ̺ t̺ɕ̺ʼ ɸ β s̺ z̺ j x ɣ χ l lʲ l̥ʲ m n nʲ ŋ r ʔ
Lezgian (Güne): b p pʰ pʼ f m w d̪ t̪ʰ t̪ t̪ʼ n̪ l̪ r̪ t̪ʰʷ t̪ʷ t̪ʼʷ t̪s̪ t̪s̪ʼ t̪s̪ʰ t̪s̪ʰʷ t̪s̪ʷ t̪s̪ʼʷ s̪ z̪ s̪ʷ z̪ʷ j tʃ tʃʰ tʃʼ ʃ ʒ g k kʰ kʼ gʷ kʷ kʰʷ kʼʷ x q qʰ qʼ qʼʷ qʰʷ qʷ χ χʷ ʁ ʁʷ h ʔ pʲ pʰʲ pʼʲ fʲ t̪ʰʲ t̪ʲ t̪ʼʲ t̪ʰʷʲ t̪ʷʲ t̪ʼʷʲ t̪s̪ʲ t̪s̪ʼʲ t̪s̪ʰʲ t̪s̪ʰʷʲ t̪s̪ʷʲ t̪s̪ʼʷʲ s̪ʲ s̪ʷʲ kʲ kʰʲ kʼʲ kʷʲ kʰʷʲ kʼʷʲ xʲ qʲ qʰʲ qʼʲ qʼʷʲ qʰʷʲ qʷʲ χʲ χʷʲ ɢ
Ishkashimi: p b t ʈ d ɖ k g q ts dz tʃ ʈʂ dʒ f v s z ʃ ʂ ʒ ʐ x ɣ w j m n l r h ɭ
Wakhi: p b w m f v t d ts dz tʃ dʒ ʃ ʒ l̥ r θ ð s z ʈ ɖ ʈʂ ɖʐ ʂ ʐ ɭ̥ n j k g x ɣ q χ ʁ ç ɽ̊
Kurmanji Kurdish: b dʒ tʃʰ tʃˤ d f g h ħ ʒ kʰ kˤ l m n pʰ q ɾ r s ʃ tʰ tˤ v w χ ʁ j z ʢ
Paiwan (Kulalao): p b t d c ɟ ts ɖ k g q ʔ v m w r n ɺ j ŋ ʎ
Yaghnobi: p b β̞ m f v t d tʃ dʒ s z ʃʲ ʒʲ n l r k g j q χ χʷ ʁ ħ ʕ h
Kabardian: p b p’ t d t’ ts dz ts’ kʷ gʷ k’ʷ q qʷ q’ q’ʷ ʔ ʔʷ f v f’ s z ɬ ɮ ɬ’ ɕ ʑ ɕ’ ʃ ʒ ç ʝ xʷ c’ c ɟ χ ʁ χʷ ʁʷ ʕ h m n r j w

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Aleksandr Marochkin is a Kazakhstan Russian, not an ethnic Kazakh. Looks part Asian but I guess that's okay for Siberian/Ural Russians (Northern Kazakhstan used to be an extension of Siberia before the Soviet nation-building)

Spoiler!

Thin Nordic features and light pigmentation plus Asian chinky eyes.

I didn't exclude him because I thought he might be a Russian-Kazakh mix. How do you know he's not mixed?

Turanids also have "thin Nordic features" like a fairly long and narrow face and nose. Humanphenotypes.net says that Turanids have an "oval head and high mid face".

Here the Kazakh morph has a longer mid-face and shorter forehead, so its eyes are positioned higher on the y-axis:



In the GIF file above, if you imagine drawing a triangle between the center point of each eye and the center point of the mouth, the shape of the triangle is more elongated in the Kazakh morph, because its eyes are more close-set and positioned higher.

In the case of Aleksandr Marochkin, the shape of the eyes-mouth-triangle is extremely elongated:



This player in Kazakhstan's national team (Islambek Kuat) also has light-colored hair and eyes, even though his name is obviously not Russian. His eyes are less chinky, but he still has a very high midface-to-forehead ratio:

[Leto]

Islambek may be mixed with something too. Even though Kazakhstan is gradually becoming more homogenous, it's still a multiethnic country and besides Russians and Kazakhs there are other smaller ethnic minorities. Anyone who is interested can google it.

I'm not interested in the pseudo-scientific taxonomy stuff, people who in 2020 disregard population genetics in favor of "taxonomy" shouldn't bother arguing with me.

[Illyrius]

Are Albanians indeed turkified Caucasoids

[Alenka]

Players that seem native or mixed in Kazakhstan's national men's soccer team (excluding players who were missing a photo):

Baktiyor Zainutdinov is ethnic Uzbek.

[Leto]

Baktiyor Zainutdinov is ethnic Uzbek.

How do you know and why do you care?

[Aldaris]

Baktiyor Zainutdinov is ethnic Uzbek.

Most of them look just like my Chinese bros from Sichuan. Beware of those guys, hun, they look deceptively young, but they're kinda smart.

[Alenka]

How do you know

Because Kazakhs give the name Baktiyar, while Bakhtiyor is the Uzbek version.

and why do you care?

Why do you care why I care?

First of all, I wasn't even replying to you. Second of all, it's just info, and there's nothing wrong with informing people. This is an anthroforum. What I just wrote is not any more irrelevant than the stuff you write on the forum. Most people may not care about what that guy's ethnicty is, but neither would they care about what a Kazakh football team morph looks like, which is what Ymyyakhtakh posted in the thread, but you didn't ask him why he cares. Nor do most people care about genetics, but you have like thousands of posts on where someone plots or how much Siberian someone scores on GEDmatch. So rather than asking me "why do you care?" maybe you should know your place and ask yourself first.