Any Kosovo Gorani Gedmatch / G25 results?

[vbnetkhio]

Recently I found that some of them had the same R1a-L260 like me (data from Bosnjački DNK Projekat). This guy surname is Ibrahimovic.

this one could be a Goranac based on his surname.

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	North_Atlantic	22.61
2	West_Med	22.56
3	East_Med	21.24
4	Baltic	17.54
5	West_Asian	12.29
6	Red_Sea	2.29
7	East_Asian	0.62
8	Amerindian	0.54
9	Siberian	0.26
10	Oceanian	0.04

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Greek_Thessaly	5.49
2	Bulgarian	7.27
3	Romanian	8.58
4	Tuscan	9.13
5	Italian_Abruzzo	10.32
6	North_Italian	10.92
7	Central_Greek	11.31
8	West_Sicilian	11.45
9	Serbian	12.54
10	East_Sicilian	12.68
11	South_Italian	15.09
12	Ashkenazi	15.66
13	Portuguese	18.54
14	Moldavian	18.56
15	Spanish_Extremadura	18.88
16	Spanish_Galicia	19.38
17	Spanish_Andalucia	20.01
18	Spanish_Murcia	20.15
19	Spanish_Cataluna	20.23
20	Spanish_Valencia	20.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	56.5%	Bulgarian	+	43.5%	Tuscan	@	3.01
2	 	83.9%	Greek_Thessaly	+	16.1%	Southwest_French	@	3.17
3	 	89.1%	Greek_Thessaly	+	10.9%	French_Basque	@	3.38
4	 	88%	Greek_Thessaly	+	12%	Southwest_English	@	3.41
5	 	84.9%	Greek_Thessaly	+	15.1%	South_Dutch	@	3.43
6	 	84%	Greek_Thessaly	+	16%	Spanish_Cantabria	@	3.45
7	 	82.8%	Greek_Thessaly	+	17.2%	French	@	3.45
8	 	88.6%	Greek_Thessaly	+	11.4%	Irish	@	3.52
9	 	68.8%	Central_Greek	+	31.2%	East_German	@	3.52
10	 	84.3%	Greek_Thessaly	+	15.7%	West_German	@	3.52
11	 	83.3%	Bulgarian	+	16.7%	Sardinian	@	3.52
12	 	58.2%	Romanian	+	41.8%	West_Sicilian	@	3.53
13	 	88.4%	Greek_Thessaly	+	11.6%	Orcadian	@	3.54
14	 	82.6%	Greek_Thessaly	+	17.4%	Spanish_Cataluna	@	3.54
15	 	87.8%	Greek_Thessaly	+	12.2%	Southeast_English	@	3.56
16	 	88.9%	Greek_Thessaly	+	11.1%	West_Scottish	@	3.57
17	 	63.2%	Bulgarian	+	36.8%	West_Sicilian	@	3.57
18	 	83.9%	Greek_Thessaly	+	16.1%	Austrian	@	3.64
19	 	88.6%	Greek_Thessaly	+	11.4%	North_Dutch	@	3.65
20	 	89.2%	Greek_Thessaly	+	10.8%	Norwegian	@	3.67

[Pribislav]

this one could be a Goranac based on his surname.

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	North_Atlantic	22.61
2	West_Med	22.56
3	East_Med	21.24
4	Baltic	17.54
5	West_Asian	12.29
6	Red_Sea	2.29
7	East_Asian	0.62
8	Amerindian	0.54
9	Siberian	0.26
10	Oceanian	0.04

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Greek_Thessaly	5.49
2	Bulgarian	7.27
3	Romanian	8.58
4	Tuscan	9.13
5	Italian_Abruzzo	10.32
6	North_Italian	10.92
7	Central_Greek	11.31
8	West_Sicilian	11.45
9	Serbian	12.54
10	East_Sicilian	12.68
11	South_Italian	15.09
12	Ashkenazi	15.66
13	Portuguese	18.54
14	Moldavian	18.56
15	Spanish_Extremadura	18.88
16	Spanish_Galicia	19.38
17	Spanish_Andalucia	20.01
18	Spanish_Murcia	20.15
19	Spanish_Cataluna	20.23
20	Spanish_Valencia	20.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	56.5%	Bulgarian	+	43.5%	Tuscan	@	3.01
2	 	83.9%	Greek_Thessaly	+	16.1%	Southwest_French	@	3.17
3	 	89.1%	Greek_Thessaly	+	10.9%	French_Basque	@	3.38
4	 	88%	Greek_Thessaly	+	12%	Southwest_English	@	3.41
5	 	84.9%	Greek_Thessaly	+	15.1%	South_Dutch	@	3.43
6	 	84%	Greek_Thessaly	+	16%	Spanish_Cantabria	@	3.45
7	 	82.8%	Greek_Thessaly	+	17.2%	French	@	3.45
8	 	88.6%	Greek_Thessaly	+	11.4%	Irish	@	3.52
9	 	68.8%	Central_Greek	+	31.2%	East_German	@	3.52
10	 	84.3%	Greek_Thessaly	+	15.7%	West_German	@	3.52
11	 	83.3%	Bulgarian	+	16.7%	Sardinian	@	3.52
12	 	58.2%	Romanian	+	41.8%	West_Sicilian	@	3.53
13	 	88.4%	Greek_Thessaly	+	11.6%	Orcadian	@	3.54
14	 	82.6%	Greek_Thessaly	+	17.4%	Spanish_Cataluna	@	3.54
15	 	87.8%	Greek_Thessaly	+	12.2%	Southeast_English	@	3.56
16	 	88.9%	Greek_Thessaly	+	11.1%	West_Scottish	@	3.57
17	 	63.2%	Bulgarian	+	36.8%	West_Sicilian	@	3.57
18	 	83.9%	Greek_Thessaly	+	16.1%	Austrian	@	3.64
19	 	88.6%	Greek_Thessaly	+	11.4%	North_Dutch	@	3.65
20	 	89.2%	Greek_Thessaly	+	10.8%	Norwegian	@	3.67

Look more like Albanian result. This result is to southern shifted. I don't think so that Gorani are close to Thessalians.
Gorani have albanized surnames. You can't be sure who is Albanian, Ashkali or Goran only according to surnames.

[vbnetkhio]

Look more like Albanian result. This result is to southern shifted. I don't think so that Gorani are close to Thessalians.
Gorani have albanized surnames. You can't be sure who is Albanian, Ashkali or Goran only according to surnames.

his surname is spelled in Serbian, (prefix Hadzi-), it exists only in Serbia with that spelling

[CommonSense]

his surname is spelled in Serbian, (prefix Hadzi-), it exists only in Serbia with that spelling

Maybe the man is an Albanian or a 'Bosniak' from Sandžak or Montenegro. Have you tried contacting him?

[vbnetkhio]

Maybe the man is an Albanian or a 'Bosniak' from Sandžak or Montenegro. Have you tried contacting him?

if he was Albanian, it would be "Haxhi". i think Mingle conctacted him ,but he hasn't answered yet.

[MagnusDark]

As Albanian you heard about any Gorani autosomal results?

As far as I know we don't. I have only seen Torbesh that basically come out as Bulgarian admixed Albanians.

[MagnusDark]

Sure? This was Torbesh modeling. I was thinking Gorani results will be identical with Bulgarians - Serbs

Don't listen to Bosniensis. He speaks out of his ass. As far as I know we have no results of Gorani in our project, and certainly I have not seen any.

I doubt they would have a significant shift to Albanians. Gorani typically keep to themselves. They also typically dislike both Albanians and Serbs. I am sure some mixed, but this phenomenon is more typical of Torbesh/Pomak in Albania.

[MagnusDark]

if he was Albanian, it would be "Haxhi". i think Mingle conctacted him ,but he hasn't answered yet.

Some Albanians have Serbian spelled surnames in Montenegro. I know a few that do. So this doesn't necessarily mean he is not Albanian. If he is from Kosova, then could be Gorani, as Albanians in Kosova wouldn't spell it the Serbian way.

[Kaspias]

Don't listen to Bosniensis. He speaks out of his ass. As far as I know we have no results of Gorani in our project, and certainly I have not seen any.

I doubt they would have a significant shift to Albanians. Gorani typically keep to themselves. They also typically dislike both Albanians and Serbs. I am sure some mixed, but this phenomenon is more typical of Torbesh/Pomak in Albania.

What can you say about Pomaks in Albania? Besides genetic results, how they live?

Do you think is it possible to catch a DNA result among them?

[MagnusDark]

What can you say about Pomaks in Albania? Besides genetic results, how they live?

Do you think is it possible to catch a DNA result among them?

In actuallity many(or what's left) Pomak in Albania were absorbed into the Torbesh community. Pomak Muslims typically became a part of the Torbesh muslims. They mostly claim Albanian identity. Some times Turkish. The orthodox Christian Slavs of the region still refer to themselves as simply Bulgarian. Even though most are from Macedonia. Many left with the passport proposition from Bulgaria. However the Muslim ones stayed more often than not. They have similar customs with Gorani. Like the one with the geisha looking bride that's jeweled up lol.

I think we technically already do. Though like I mentioned it's complicated since most are counted as Torbesh and identify as Albanian. The ones from mixed bulgarian and albanian villages have typical ydna shared with other Bulgarians and Albanians. Of course no autosomal on them. Usually from Stebleva and Trebisht. They have become like Albanian montenegrins in a sense. Cross assimilation happened on the easternmost borders.

I can ask in the project if anyone has any results.

My family is in the westernmost region bordering the bilingual regions. Okshtun/Martanesh. Sadly some Albanians are even being assimilated due to the local schools being minority schools as Hoxha did little to build Albanian schools in the area. So they go to the minority slavic schools in the region and now some young gen Albanian kids speak Bulgarian. I would say from identity perspective ots very fluid like that of the Vlachs who usually identity and support the nation they are raised under.