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  • Dodecad: V3.

    12 6.38%
  • Dodecad: Africa 9.

    1 0.53%
  • Dodecad: World 9.

    8 4.26%
  • Dodecad: K7b.

    3 1.60%
  • Dodecad: K12b.

    23 12.23%
  • Eurogenes: K9.

    0 0%
  • Eurogenes: K10.

    0 0%
  • Eurogenes: K11.

    0 0%
  • Eurogenes: K12.

    3 1.60%
  • Eurogenes: K12b.

    7 3.72%
  • Eurogenes: K13.

    76 40.43%
  • Eurogenes: Hunter_Gatherer vs. Farmer.

    9 4.79%
  • Harappa World.

    6 3.19%
  • MDLP.

    36 19.15%
  • DNA Tribes SNP Analysis.

    4 2.13%
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Thread: What is your favorite genetic admixture calculator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordarya View Post
    If that's true, then I am Papuan, Puerto Rican, Chuvash, Mari, Ashkenazi, Turk, Cypriot, Jordanian, etc. I challenge you to find them in my family tree. These pie charts and admix calculations are insane. Some say Asian, some say Amerindian, some say African. It all comes and goes, both percentage changes and types of non-Europid, all in the 0-1+% range, depending on app. Eurogenes and Dodecad don't corner the market on admix analysis, you know.
    LivingDNA is the only honest calculator for Brits certain continental ancestry shows up as SouthEast English this not wrong , per se, because Southeast people are the most influenced by the continent.

    For example, my 25% kraut , from Alsace-Lorraine is Danube Swabian and Frankish. The Franks did invad England because people like Hugh Grant are a mix of Iron-age celt and Frankish. My Danube Swabian is related to the Swaefas Germanic tribe that founded Swaffham England. Also, LivingDNA tells me I am 100% European unlike these politically correct calculators telling me I am part nigger, Eskimo, Papuan etc.. etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Well, maybe it's from 200 years ago or so. How much African do you get on Dodecad World9?
    Looks like a typical pied noir sample, non? If I somehow have Sephardic ancestry, I would not be surprised. I've already been told that my mtDNA haplogroup K is found mostly among Ashkenazi women.

    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_K_mtDNA.shtml
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_K_(mtDNA)

    Every app's Oracle+4 gives me only Mediterranean European and/or North African populations.

    EthioHelix K10 + French Oracle results:

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 72.6% french + 27.4% algeria @ 0.83


    For EthioHelix, I may not have much in the way of Japanese, but straight up resonance with Palestinian and Egyptian. Nevertheless, Omotic seems to be the source of African DNA and this region is Abyssinian, not SSA. How I got it, I can only speculate, but due to the sheer number of Graecoroman and North African admixes, verifies that I have distant Afroasiatic, likely through the connection between Cartagena and Carthage, knowing that I do have a Gothic relationship with Spain from Aquitaine.

    puntDNAL K8 African only Oracle results gives me 100% Egyptian in mixed mode with 0% every African population. Actual SSA populations are only extremely distant, beyond all of that, the nearest non-Saharan group past 80.0 @ Kenyan_Masaai (who are 62% E1b), on a test specifically designed to detect SSA. This indicates that any African DNA is from a Nile-to-Mediterranean gene flow and not as a result of the Trans-Atlantic Triangular Slave Trade. Considering the perfect Egyptian rating, I would say that this was down through the Delta and across the Mediterranean coast through the majority Semitic population and assimilated by the Persian, Greek and Roman empires, until it made its way into Europe.




    Living DNA
    Africa9 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Europe 68.96
    2 SW_Asia 25.33
    3 NW_Africa 3.23
    4 E_Africa 1
    5 Biaka 0.83
    6 San 0.63
    7 W_Africa 0.03

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 North_Italian 4.86
    2 Tuscan 5.61
    3 Morocco_Jews 25.93
    4 North_African_Jews (Dodecad) 33.4
    5 French_Basque 41.72
    6 Druze 42.14
    7 Jordanians 48.43
    8 Egypt 54.94
    9 Egyptans 57.52
    10 Yemenese 62.37
    11 North_African (Dodecad) 62.95
    12 Libya 65.35
    13 Bedouin 70.81
    14 Algeria 71.53
    15 Morocco_N 73.83
    16 Yemen_Jews 74.06
    17 Saudis 79.58
    18 Moroccans 82.78
    19 Ethiopian_Jews 84.25
    20 Ethiopians 84.27

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 93.4% North_Italian + 6.6% Libya @ 1.51
    2 94.9% North_Italian + 5.1% East_African (Dodecad) @ 1.68
    3 94.9% North_Italian + 5.1% Ethiopian_Jews @ 1.7
    4 94.9% North_Italian + 5.1% Ethiopians @ 1.73
    5 92.7% North_Italian + 7.3% Egyptans @ 1.74
    6 92.4% North_Italian + 7.6% Egypt @ 1.78
    7 55.6% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 44.4% French_Basque @ 1.97
    8 53.7% French_Basque + 46.3% Jordanians @ 2.01
    9 62.9% French_Basque + 37.1% Bedouin @ 2.11
    10 93.4% North_Italian + 6.6% Yemenese @ 2.13
    11 85.6% North_Italian + 14.4% Morocco_Jews @ 2.16
    12 93.6% North_Italian + 6.4% North_African (Dodecad) @ 2.3
    13 94.4% North_Italian + 5.6% Algeria @ 2.37
    14 88.8% North_Italian + 11.2% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) @ 2.43
    15 95.7% North_Italian + 4.3% Maasai @ 2.55
    16 95.2% North_Italian + 4.8% Moroccans @ 2.56
    17 95.9% North_Italian + 4.1% Sahara_OCC @ 2.6
    18 95.5% North_Italian + 4.5% Morocco_S @ 2.66
    19 95.8% North_Italian + 4.2% SANDAWE @ 2.67
    20 94.6% North_Italian + 5.4% Bedouin @ 2.68
    Africa9 4-Ancestors Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Europe 68.96
    2 SW_Asia 25.33
    3 NW_Africa 3.23
    4 E_Africa 1.00


    Finished reading population data. 54 populations found.
    9 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_Italian @ 4.552517
    2 Tuscan @ 5.484910
    3 Morocco_Jews @ 24.319345
    4 North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 31.271042
    5 French_Basque @ 38.986019
    6 Druze @ 39.604889
    7 Jordanians @ 45.298275
    8 Egypt @ 51.288792
    9 Egyptans @ 53.699337
    10 Yemenese @ 58.262970
    11 North_African_Dodecad @ 60.512138
    12 Libya @ 61.519260
    13 Bedouin @ 66.209587
    14 Algeria @ 68.785690
    15 Yemen_Jews @ 69.442436
    16 Morocco_N @ 71.738686
    17 Saudis @ 74.607719
    18 Moroccans @ 79.824341
    19 Ethiopian_Jews @ 82.007942
    20 Ethiopians @ 82.080521

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% North_Italian +50% Tuscan @ 3.752968


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% French_Basque +25% Jordanians +25% North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 1.051237


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    +++++++++++++++
    1 French_Basque + French_Basque + Jordanians + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 1.051237
    2 French_Basque + Jordanians + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 2.149439
    3 French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 2.420192
    4 Egypt + French_Basque + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 2.478917
    5 French_Basque + French_Basque + Jordanians + Morocco_Jews @ 2.522790
    6 Druze + French_Basque + French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.794858
    7 Egyptans + French_Basque + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 2.819581
    8 French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + Morocco_Jews + North_Italian @ 2.883515
    9 French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.959404
    10 French_Basque + Jordanians + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.975163
    11 Egypt + French_Basque + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 3.059612
    12 Bedouin + French_Basque + French_Basque + Morocco_Jews @ 3.183760
    13 French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 3.208580
    14 Druze + Egypt + French_Basque + French_Basque @ 3.242710
    15 Druze + French_Basque + French_Basque + Jordanians @ 3.315200
    16 Bedouin + French_Basque + French_Basque + Tuscan @ 3.364336
    17 French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + Morocco_Jews + Tuscan @ 3.505044
    18 Egyptans + French_Basque + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 3.631401
    19 Morocco_Jews + North_Italian + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.712686
    20 French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_Italian @ 3.740528


    EthioHelix K10 + French Oracle results:

    EthioHelix Africa + French

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 French 82.32
    2 North-Africa 15.08
    3 Omotic 1.79
    4 Khoi-San 0.81

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 french 25.24
    2 egypt 32.61
    3 egyptans 36.33
    4 libya 49.72
    5 algeria 66.99
    6 morocco-n 67.98
    7 EtA 75.77
    8 EtT 76.83
    9 ethiopian-jews 77.24
    10 moroccans 77.99
    11 EtT-P 78.08
    12 EtA-P 80.88
    13 Afar 81.99
    14 EtO-P 84.38
    15 EtO 90.19
    16 morocco-s 90.49
    17 sahara-occ 93.54
    18 Wolayta 93.78
    19 EtS-P 94.2
    20 Somali 94.72

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 72.6% french + 27.4% algeria @ 0.83
    2 75.6% french + 24.4% moroccans @ 0.93
    3 78.8% french + 21.2% sahara-occ @ 0.96
    4 72.9% french + 27.1% morocco-n @ 1.26
    5 83.2% french + 16.8% mozabite @ 2.66
    6 66.5% french + 33.5% libya @ 3.22
    7 78.5% french + 21.5% morocco-s @ 5.08
    8 56.7% french + 43.3% egypt @ 6.41
    9 59.6% french + 40.4% egyptans @ 7.5
    10 81.9% french + 18.1% fulani @ 11.53
    11 77.7% french + 22.3% EtA @ 13.36
    12 78.2% french + 21.8% EtT @ 13.81
    13 78.4% french + 21.6% ethiopian-jews @ 14.04
    14 81.5% french + 18.5% EtO @ 15.17
    15 79.2% french + 20.8% EtT-P @ 15.3
    16 80% french + 20% EtA-P @ 15.59
    17 80.7% french + 19.3% EtO-P @ 15.63
    18 83% french + 17% hema @ 15.67
    19 80.4% french + 19.6% Afar @ 15.98
    20 83.3% french + 16.7% maasai @ 15.98

    EthioHelix K10 + French 4-Ancestors Oracle


    EthioHelix Africa + French

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 French 82.32
    2 North-Africa 15.08
    3 Omotic 1.79


    Finished reading population data. 59 populations found.
    10 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 french @ 23.313265
    2 egypt @ 30.547249
    3 egyptans @ 34.145733
    4 libya @ 45.847324
    5 algeria @ 61.960045
    6 morocco-n @ 62.936989
    7 EtA @ 71.802437
    8 moroccans @ 72.032600
    9 EtT @ 72.775017
    10 ethiopian-jews @ 73.189514
    11 EtT-P @ 75.475998
    12 EtA-P @ 78.070213
    13 Afar @ 79.331474
    14 EtO-P @ 80.860649
    15 morocco-s @ 83.334183
    16 EtO @ 84.996460
    17 sahara-occ @ 86.458824
    18 EtS-P @ 90.551529
    19 Wolayta @ 90.710449
    20 Somali @ 91.021683

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% egypt +50% french @ 7.616269


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% french +25% french +25% moroccans @ 1.089160


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 french + french + french + moroccans @ 1.089160
    2 french + french + french + morocco-n @ 2.108534
    3 algeria + french + french + french @ 2.139574
    4 french + french + french + sahara-occ @ 4.239738
    5 french + french + french + morocco-s @ 6.621908
    6 french + french + french + libya @ 6.744598
    7 egypt + egypt + french + french @ 7.616269
    8 egypt + egyptans + french + french @ 8.585905
    9 egypt + french + french + libya @ 8.719598
    10 egyptans + egyptans + french + french @ 9.567039
    11 egyptans + french + french + libya @ 9.704814
    12 algeria + egypt + french + french @ 11.090034
    13 egypt + french + french + morocco-n @ 11.182137
    14 egyptans + french + french + french @ 11.258095
    15 egypt + french + french + french @ 11.431512
    16 french + french + libya + libya @ 11.798814
    17 french + french + french + mozabite @ 11.818910
    18 algeria + egyptans + french + french @ 11.880923
    19 egyptans + french + french + morocco-n @ 11.939571
    20 egypt + french + french + moroccans @ 13.458858

    EthioHelix K10 + Japanese Oracle results:


    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North-Africa 72.69
    2 Japanese 16.94
    3 Omotic 6.37
    4 East-Africa1 1.54
    5 Biaka-Pygmy 0.98
    6 West-Africa 0.87
    7 Khoi-San 0.62

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 egypt 6.33
    2 libya 8.16
    3 egyptans 9.7
    4 algeria 13.93
    5 morocco-n 15.89
    6 moroccans 16.35
    7 sahara-occ 18.42
    8 morocco-s 27.27
    9 mozabite 28.46
    10 EtA 46.86
    11 EtT 46.97
    12 ethiopian-jews 49.97
    13 EtT-P 52.89
    14 EtA-P 55.01
    15 Afar 56.49
    16 EtO-P 59.95
    17 fulani 60.45
    18 EtO 65.04
    19 Somali 66.12
    20 EtS-P 68.83

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 90.5% algeria + 9.5% japanese @ 3.59
    2 94.9% libya + 5.1% japanese @ 4.24
    3 89.3% moroccans + 10.7% japanese @ 5.38
    4 98% egypt + 2% japanese @ 5.75
    5 89.7% morocco-n + 10.3% japanese @ 5.78
    6 87.8% egypt + 12.2% morocco-n @ 5.99
    7 89.5% egypt + 10.5% moroccans @ 6.07
    8 92.5% egypt + 7.5% sahara-occ @ 6.16
    9 95% egypt + 5% morocco-s @ 6.17
    10 89.9% egypt + 10.1% algeria @ 6.17
    11 88.1% sahara-occ + 11.9% japanese @ 6.23
    12 99% egypt + 1% pedi @ 6.25
    13 99.1% egypt + 0.9% nguni @ 6.26
    14 99.1% egypt + 0.9% sotho/tswana @ 6.26
    15 99.1% egypt + 0.9% bantusouthafrica @ 6.26
    16 99.1% egypt + 0.9% fang @ 6.27
    17 99.3% egypt + 0.7% biakapygmy @ 6.27
    18 99.2% egypt + 0.8% kongo @ 6.27
    19 99.1% egypt + 0.9% luhya @ 6.27
    20 99.1% egypt + 0.9% xhosa @ 6.27
    EthioHelix K10 + Japanese 4-Ancestors Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North-Africa 72.69
    2 Japanese 16.94
    3 Omotic 6.37
    4 East-Africa1 1.54


    Finished reading population data. 59 populations found.
    10 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 egypt @ 6.603943
    2 libya @ 7.372525
    3 egyptans @ 9.858743
    4 algeria @ 12.553159
    5 moroccans @ 14.504361
    6 morocco-n @ 14.643106
    7 sahara-occ @ 16.298849
    8 mozabite @ 25.312471
    9 morocco-s @ 27.603598
    10 EtA @ 47.446579
    11 EtT @ 47.468666
    12 ethiopian-jews @ 50.321934
    13 EtT-P @ 54.112522
    14 EtA-P @ 56.235081
    15 Afar @ 57.627319
    16 EtO-P @ 60.858891
    17 fulani @ 64.002869
    18 EtO @ 65.343895
    19 Somali @ 67.225494
    20 EtS-P @ 70.103195

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% egypt +50% egypt @ 6.603943


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% egypt +25% egypt +25% morocco-n @ 5.889019


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 egypt + egypt + egypt + morocco-n @ 5.889019
    2 egypt + egypt + egypt + moroccans @ 5.889388
    3 algeria + egypt + egypt + egypt @ 6.156878
    4 egypt + egypt + egyptans + morocco-n @ 6.161911
    5 egypt + egypt + egypt + sahara-occ @ 6.216164
    6 egypt + egypt + egyptans + moroccans @ 6.296246
    7 egypt + egypt + libya + moroccans @ 6.439868
    8 egypt + egypt + libya + morocco-n @ 6.450962
    9 algeria + egypt + egypt + egyptans @ 6.525907
    10 egypt + egypt + egypt + libya @ 6.547783
    11 algeria + egypt + egypt + libya @ 6.582066
    12 egypt + egypt + egypt + egypt @ 6.603943
    13 egypt + egyptans + egyptans + morocco-n @ 6.639770
    14 egypt + egypt + egyptans + sahara-occ @ 6.648798
    15 egypt + egypt + libya + libya @ 6.661759
    16 egypt + egyptans + libya + morocco-n @ 6.664136
    17 egypt + egyptans + libya + moroccans @ 6.777677
    18 egypt + egypt + libya + sahara-occ @ 6.794689
    19 egypt + egyptans + egyptans + moroccans @ 6.884614
    20 algeria + egypt + egyptans + libya @ 6.892830

    EthioHelix K10 + Palestinian Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Palestinian 89.37
    2 Omotic 6.55
    3 Biaka-Pygmy 1.65
    4 Khoi-San 1.6
    5 East-Africa1 0.77
    6 Hadza 0.05

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 morocco-n 6.81
    2 palestinian 8.65
    3 algeria 9.59
    4 moroccans 11.67
    5 mozabite 11.91
    6 libya 12.69
    7 egypt 12.75
    8 sahara-occ 13.64
    9 egyptans 16.04
    10 morocco-s 37.64
    11 EtT 60.15
    12 EtA 60.21
    13 ethiopian-jews 63.48
    14 EtT-P 64.64
    15 EtA-P 67.82
    16 Afar 70.94
    17 EtO-P 74.21
    18 fulani 76.29
    19 Somali 82.24
    20 EtO 83.69

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 60.1% palestinian + 39.9% libya @ 2.6
    2 92.7% palestinian + 7.3% sandawe @ 2.68
    3 92.2% palestinian + 7.8% Wolayta @ 2.78
    4 93.6% palestinian + 6.4% ARI-C @ 2.78
    5 88.6% palestinian + 11.4% ethiopian-jews @ 2.87
    6 90.1% palestinian + 9.9% EtO-P @ 2.87
    7 88% palestinian + 12% EtT @ 2.87
    8 88.1% palestinian + 11.9% EtA @ 2.88
    9 93.8% palestinian + 6.2% ARI-B @ 2.96
    10 66% palestinian + 34% egyptans @ 2.99
    11 91.2% palestinian + 8.8% EtO @ 2.99
    12 89.3% palestinian + 10.7% EtA-P @ 3.04
    13 89.7% palestinian + 10.3% Afar @ 3.05
    14 91.3% palestinian + 8.7% EtS-P @ 3.08
    15 91.1% palestinian + 8.9% Somali @ 3.13
    16 88.9% palestinian + 11.1% EtT-P @ 3.16
    17 60.7% palestinian + 39.3% egypt @ 3.38
    18 92.7% palestinian + 7.3% maasai @ 4.06
    19 92.8% palestinian + 7.2% hema @ 4.19
    20 53.3% palestinian + 46.7% algeria @ 4.37
    ​EthioHelix K10 + Palestinian 4-Ancestors Oracle

    EthioHelix K10 + Palestinian

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Palestinian 89.37
    2 Omotic 6.55
    3 Biaka-Pygmy 1.65
    4 Khoi-San 1.60


    Finished reading population data. 59 populations found.
    10 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 morocco-n @ 6.888328
    2 palestinian @ 7.967266
    3 algeria @ 9.732377
    4 moroccans @ 11.878528
    5 libya @ 11.901686
    6 egypt @ 12.408681
    7 mozabite @ 12.451018
    8 sahara-occ @ 13.627141
    9 egyptans @ 15.381239
    10 morocco-s @ 37.350616
    11 EtT @ 56.256199
    12 EtA @ 56.292362
    13 ethiopian-jews @ 59.258648
    14 EtT-P @ 61.112518
    15 EtA-P @ 63.946697
    16 Afar @ 66.820557
    17 EtO-P @ 69.523178
    18 fulani @ 75.344711
    19 Somali @ 77.316864
    20 EtO @ 77.662796

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% libya +50% palestinian @ 3.341533


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% libya +25% palestinian +25% palestinian @ 3.341533


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    +++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 egyptans + morocco-n + palestinian + palestinian @ 2.385677
    2 egypt + morocco-n + palestinian + palestinian @ 2.611762
    3 algeria + egypt + palestinian + palestinian @ 2.891736
    4 egypt + moroccans + palestinian + palestinian @ 2.927005
    5 algeria + egyptans + palestinian + palestinian @ 2.940670
    6 egyptans + moroccans + palestinian + palestinian @ 2.997961
    7 libya + morocco-n + palestinian + palestinian @ 3.003895
    8 egypt + palestinian + palestinian + sahara-occ @ 3.164266
    9 egyptans + mozabite + palestinian + palestinian @ 3.172513
    10 egypt + mozabite + palestinian + palestinian @ 3.319885
    11 libya + libya + palestinian + palestinian @ 3.341533
    12 algeria + libya + palestinian + palestinian @ 3.355852
    13 egypt + libya + palestinian + palestinian @ 3.417918
    14 egyptans + palestinian + palestinian + palestinian @ 3.432015
    15 egyptans + palestinian + palestinian + sahara-occ @ 3.446416
    16 egypt + morocco-n + morocco-n + palestinian @ 3.516762
    17 libya + moroccans + palestinian + palestinian @ 3.696555
    18 egyptans + libya + palestinian + palestinian @ 3.794085
    19 libya + palestinian + palestinian + palestinian @ 3.795146
    20 egyptans + morocco-n + morocco-n + palestinian @ 3.922031

    EthioHelix K10 Africa Only Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North-Africa 63.92
    2 East-Africa2 35.78
    3 Biaka-Pygmy 0.29
    4 East_Africa1 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 algeria 8.46
    2 libya 8.66
    3 moroccans 12.07
    4 morocco-n 13.2
    5 sahara-occ 16.48
    6 egypt 21.34
    7 egyptans 23.16
    8 morocco-s 30.58
    9 mozabite 47.37
    10 EtA 54.8
    11 EtT 55.69
    12 ethiopian-jews 58.34
    13 EtT-P 60.47
    14 fulani 60.76
    15 EtA-P 62.12
    16 EtO-P 64.83
    17 Afar 66.96
    18 EtO 70.69
    19 EtS-P 75.73
    20 Wolayta 75.75

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 71.8% algeria + 28.2% egypt @ 1.3
    2 61.9% morocco-n + 38.1% egypt @ 1.45
    3 73.5% algeria + 26.5% egyptans @ 1.48
    4 50.6% algeria + 49.4% libya @ 1.55
    5 63.8% morocco-n + 36.2% egyptans @ 1.81
    6 60.8% libya + 39.2% morocco-n @ 2
    7 69.1% egypt + 30.9% mozabite @ 2.41
    8 85.1% libya + 14.9% mozabite @ 2.45
    9 67.3% egyptans + 32.7% mozabite @ 3.01
    10 66.8% libya + 33.2% sahara-occ @ 3.2
    11 59.2% libya + 40.8% moroccans @ 3.24
    12 64.6% moroccans + 35.4% egypt @ 3.6
    13 56.7% sahara-occ + 43.3% egypt @ 3.81
    14 66.7% moroccans + 33.3% egyptans @ 3.97
    15 89.2% algeria + 10.8% EtT-P @ 4.28
    16 58.9% sahara-occ + 41.1% egyptans @ 4.3
    17 90.5% algeria + 9.5% Afar @ 4.68
    18 89.9% algeria + 10.1% EtA-P @ 4.8
    19 89% algeria + 11% EtT @ 4.99
    20 89.5% algeria + 10.5% ethiopian-jews @ 5.03
    EthioHelix K10 Africa Only 4-Ancestors Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North-Africa 63.92
    2 East-Africa2 35.78


    Finished reading population data. 58 populations found.
    10 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 algeria @ 8.185528
    2 libya @ 8.311040
    3 moroccans @ 11.735170
    4 morocco-n @ 12.707182
    5 sahara-occ @ 16.037239
    6 egypt @ 20.505522
    7 egyptans @ 22.244207
    8 morocco-s @ 31.588654
    9 mozabite @ 45.655628
    10 EtA @ 53.280991
    11 EtT @ 54.116859
    12 ethiopian-jews @ 56.639912
    13 EtT-P @ 58.595165
    14 EtA-P @ 60.267960
    15 EtO-P @ 63.228699
    16 fulani @ 64.199883
    17 Afar @ 65.110695
    18 EtO @ 69.446846
    19 EtS-P @ 74.142464
    20 Wolayta @ 74.510460

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% algeria +50% libya @ 1.551054


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% algeria +25% libya +25% libya @ 1.551054


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    1 algeria + algeria + libya + libya @ 1.551054
    2 algeria + algeria + algeria + egyptans @ 1.607384
    3 algeria + algeria + algeria + egypt @ 1.670053
    4 egypt + libya + morocco-n + morocco-n @ 1.774177
    5 algeria + libya + libya + morocco-n @ 1.987920
    6 algeria + algeria + egyptans + morocco-n @ 2.100384
    7 egyptans + libya + morocco-n + morocco-n @ 2.193491
    8 algeria + algeria + egypt + morocco-n @ 2.351899
    9 algeria + egypt + libya + morocco-n @ 2.373484
    10 egypt + egypt + libya + mozabite @ 2.442887
    11 egypt + libya + morocco-n + sahara-occ @ 2.445228
    12 algeria + libya + libya + moroccans @ 2.551285
    13 algeria + algeria + egyptans + moroccans @ 2.600399
    14 egypt + libya + moroccans + morocco-n @ 2.626700
    15 algeria + algeria + egypt + moroccans @ 2.656840
    16 egyptans + libya + morocco-n + sahara-occ @ 2.753891
    17 egypt + egyptans + libya + mozabite @ 2.793604
    18 algeria + egypt + libya + sahara-occ @ 2.816532
    19 algeria + egyptans + libya + morocco-n @ 2.850482
    20 libya + libya + morocco-n + morocco-n @ 2.965848


    puntDNAL K8 African only Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Western_Semitic 89.63
    2 Omotic 6.14
    3 E_Benue_Congo 1.8
    4 Southern_HG 1.12
    5 W_Benue_Congo 1.03
    6 Nilo_Saharan 0.29

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Egyptian 4.31
    2 N_Moroccan 7.96
    3 Tunisian 8.78
    4 Libyan 11.51
    5 Algerian 13.1
    6 Mozabite 13.27
    7 S_Moroccan 24.58
    8 Ethiopian_Tygray 46.24
    9 Ethiopian_Afar 50.29
    10 Ethiopian_Amhara 50.5
    11 Ethiopian_Oromo 56.81
    12 Somali 57.96
    13 Nigeria_Fulani 70.74
    14 Ethiopian_Wolayta 71.63
    15 Kenyan_Maasai 82.66
    16 Tanzania_Sandawe 86.31
    17 DRC_Hema 90.6
    18 Ethiopian_AriCultivator 96.23
    19 Chad_Bulala 102.3
    20 Kenyan_Bantu 103.23

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 100% Egyptian + 0% SA_Kung @ 4.31
    2 100% Egyptian + 0% Ethiopian_Afar @ 4.31
    3 100% Egyptian + 0% Algerian @ 4.31
    4 100% Egyptian + 0% Alur @ 4.31
    5 100% Egyptian + 0% Souh_Sudan_Anuak @ 4.31
    6 100% Egyptian + 0% Ethiopian_AriBlacksmith @ 4.31
    7 100% Egyptian + 0% Ethiopian_AriCultivator @ 4.31
    8 100% Egyptian + 0% Mali_Bambaran @ 4.31
    9 100% Egyptian + 0% Cameroon_Bamoun @ 4.31
    10 100% Egyptian + 0% Ghana_Brong @ 4.31
    11 100% Egyptian + 0% Chad_Bulala @ 4.31
    12 100% Egyptian + 0% Mali_Dogon @ 4.31
    13 100% Egyptian + 0% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 4.31
    14 100% Egyptian + 0% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 4.31
    15 100% Egyptian + 0% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 4.31
    16 100% Egyptian + 0% Ethiopian_Tygray @ 4.31
    17 100% Egyptian + 0% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 4.31
    18 100% Egyptian + 0% Cameroon_Fang @ 4.31
    19 100% Egyptian + 0% Nigeria_Fulani @ 4.31
    20 100% Egyptian + 0% Tanzania_Hadza @ 4.31
    puntDNAL K8 African only 4-Ancestors Oracle

    puntDNAL K8b Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Western_Semitic 89.63
    2 Omotic 6.14
    3 E_Benue_Congo 1.80
    4 Southern_HG 1.12
    5 W_Benue_Congo 1.03


    Finished reading population data. 48 populations found.
    8 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Egyptian @ 4.162550
    2 N_Moroccan @ 7.726441
    3 Tunisian @ 8.579495
    4 Libyan @ 11.080531
    5 Algerian @ 12.648068
    6 Mozabite @ 12.976057
    7 S_Moroccan @ 25.167603
    8 Ethiopian_Tygray @ 44.663219
    9 Ethiopian_Amhara @ 48.878307
    10 Ethiopian_Afar @ 48.898129
    11 Ethiopian_Oromo @ 55.076260
    12 Somali @ 56.790161
    13 Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 68.042877
    14 Nigeria_Fulani @ 70.356873
    15 Kenyan_Maasai @ 81.899704
    16 Tanzania_Sandawe @ 82.985245
    17 DRC_Hema @ 88.604904
    18 Ethiopian_AriCultivator @ 90.278328
    19 Chad_Bulala @ 100.080063
    20 Kenyan_Bantu @ 100.367744

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Egyptian +50% Egyptian @ 4.162550


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Egyptian +25% Egyptian +25% Egyptian @ 4.162550


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++
    1 Egyptian + Egyptian + Egyptian + Egyptian @ 4.162550
    2 Egyptian + Egyptian + Egyptian + N_Moroccan @ 4.861819
    3 Egyptian + Egyptian + Egyptian + Tunisian @ 4.883037
    4 Egyptian + Egyptian + Egyptian + Libyan @ 5.624647
    5 Egyptian + Egyptian + N_Moroccan + N_Moroccan @ 5.725599
    6 Algerian + Egyptian + Egyptian + Egyptian @ 5.806611
    7 Egyptian + Egyptian + N_Moroccan + Tunisian @ 5.811239
    8 Egyptian + Egyptian + Tunisian + Tunisian @ 5.947222
    9 Egyptian + Egyptian + Egyptian + Mozabite @ 5.977995
    10 Egyptian + Egyptian + Libyan + N_Moroccan @ 6.514453
    11 Egyptian + Egyptian + Libyan + Tunisian @ 6.607727
    12 Egyptian + N_Moroccan + N_Moroccan + N_Moroccan @ 6.693481
    13 Algerian + Egyptian + Egyptian + N_Moroccan @ 6.772143
    14 Egyptian + N_Moroccan + N_Moroccan + Tunisian @ 6.824364
    15 Algerian + Egyptian + Egyptian + Tunisian @ 6.875797
    16 Egyptian + Egyptian + Mozabite + N_Moroccan @ 6.909713
    17 Egyptian + N_Moroccan + Tunisian + Tunisian @ 6.996581
    18 Egyptian + Egyptian + Mozabite + Tunisian @ 7.032844
    19 Egyptian + Tunisian + Tunisian + Tunisian @ 7.207258
    20 Egyptian + Egyptian + Libyan + Libyan @ 7.345383

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    Here is a little secret not many people know : MDLP is optimized for Lithuanians and perhaps other Baltic people.
    Maybe Eurogenes is set with a Polish standard. Which Gedmatch isn't biased?

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    LivingDNA is the only honest calculator for Brits certain continental ancestry shows up as SouthEast English this not wrong , per se, because Southeast people are the most influenced by the continent.

    For example, my 25% kraut , from Alsace-Lorraine is Danube Swabian and Frankish. The Franks did invad England because people like Hugh Grant are a mix of Iron-age celt and Frankish. My Danube Swabian is related to the Swaefas Germanic tribe that founded Swaffham England. Also, LivingDNA tells me I am 100% European unlike these politically correct calculators telling me I am part nigger, Eskimo, Papuan etc.. etc..
    Ancestry DNA gave me British Isles and Norway. Living DNA had me British Isles @ 92.2%, Aegean @ 7.6% and Pashtun @ 1.2%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordarya View Post
    Maybe Eurogenes is set with a Polish standard. Which Gedmatch isn't biased?
    Definitely, for instance K15 has a Baltic category that could be inflated for certain Western Demographics and Dodecad (sp ?) is greco-roman biased.

    Ancestry DNA gave me British Isles and Norway. Living DNA had me British Isles @ 92.2%, Aegean @ 7.6% and Pashtun @ 1.2%.
    AncestryDNA says I am mostly Irish and Scottish with English and small amounts of German and Scandinavian and tells me I am 1% nigger which is all bullshit because they do not differentiate between the Irish and Scots and the Scandinavian is from the Scottish etc...

    LivingDNA says I am Irish, Scottish, English and NorthCumbrian which sounds way more reasonable. Not only does my small amount of continental ancestry shows up as English but I actually have an ancestor from London .

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    AncestryDNA says I am mostly Irish and Scottish with English and small amounts of German and Scandinavian and tells me I am 1% nigger which is all bullshit because they do not differentiate between the Irish and Scots and the Scandinavian is from the Scottish etc...

    LivingDNA says I am Irish, Scottish, English and NorthCumbrian which sounds way more reasonable. Not only does my small amount of continental ancestry shows up as English but I actually have an ancestor from London .
    Living DNA has been forced to cut down on their African percentages, which I believe were inflated by cross-pollination with European ancestry in African-Americans, so they were reading African ancestry in Europeans, when it's actually Africans with European ancestry shifting the calculator off-kilter.

    It may be possible that I've been poking far too much fun at Albanians, but while Gedrosia K3 also makes me 0.00 distance from French, Gedrosia K12 makes my top two Norwegian and Greek. Ancient Eurasia K6 makes Hungarian and French my top hits. So yeah, I'd say Living DNA has got me right with Aegean, probably connecting Albanian-Hungarian-Greek, which is all loosely Balkan-oriented, with French and Norwegian making the majority of my DNA.

    Gedrosia K3 4-Ancestors Oracle


    Eurasia K3 Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 W_Eurasian 97.53
    2 E_Eurasian 2.06


    Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
    3 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 French @ 0.000000
    2 Albanian @ 0.296999
    3 Croatian @ 0.617447
    4 Czech @ 0.720982
    5 Greek @ 0.845519
    6 English @ 0.870279
    7 Norwegian @ 1.070001
    8 French_South @ 1.526260
    9 Bulgarian @ 1.535918
    10 Bergamo @ 1.805136
    11 Hungarian @ 1.934600
    12 Spanish @ 2.017633
    13 Lithuanian @ 2.080873
    14 Sardinian @ 2.536421
    15 LBK_EN @ 2.558893
    16 Georgian @ 2.632359
    17 Ukrainian @ 2.881934
    18 Stuttgart @ 3.242123
    19 Armenian @ 3.257833
    20 Sicilian @ 3.519022

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Albanian +50% Croatian @ 0.000000
    2 50% Albanian +50% Czech @ 0.000000
    3 50% Albanian +50% French @ 0.000000
    4 50% Bergamo +50% Bulgarian @ 0.000000
    5 50% Bergamo +50% Hungarian @ 0.000000
    6 50% Bergamo +50% Lithuanian @ 0.000000
    7 50% Bulgarian +50% English @ 0.000000
    8 50% Bulgarian +50% French_South @ 0.000000
    9 50% Croatian +50% French @ 0.000000
    10 50% Croatian +50% Greek @ 0.000000
    11 50% Czech +50% French @ 0.000000
    12 50% Czech +50% Greek @ 0.000000
    13 50% French +50% French @ 0.000000
    14 50% French_South +50% Hungarian @ 0.000000
    15 50% French_South +50% Lithuanian @ 0.000000
    16 50% French_South +50% Norwegian @ 0.000000
    17 50% LBK_EN +50% Lithuanian @ 0.000000
    18 50% Lithuanian +50% Sardinian @ 0.000000
    19 50% LBK_EN +50% Ukrainian @ 0.256065
    20 50% Hungarian +50% LBK_EN @ 0.279932


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Albanian +25% Albanian +25% Croatian @ 0.000000

    Gedrosia K12 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 37.9
    2 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 36.49
    3 CAUCASUS 12.87
    4 SW_ASIAN 6.49
    5 BALOCHI 3.99
    6 INDO_TIBETAN 1.08
    7 SUB_SAHARAN 0.79
    8 E_SIBERIAN 0.42

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Norwegian 16.82
    2 Greek 20.69
    3 Sicilian 26.73
    4 Russian 28.15
    5 Finnish 32
    6 Estonian 33.62
    7 Turks_Istanbul 34.36
    8 Lithuanian 34.95
    9 Turks_Aydin 38.3
    10 Turks_Balikesir 38.61
    11 Kurds_C 42.77
    12 Kurds_N 43
    13 Tajik_Pomiri 43.42
    14 Turkmen_Afghan 43.61
    15 Turks_Adana 43.62
    16 Turks_Kayseri 44.43
    17 Iraqi_Chaldeans 44.68
    18 Uzbek 44.75
    19 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad 44.87
    20 Kurds_F 45.09

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 61.6% Norwegian + 38.4% Sicilian @ 2.63
    2 55.4% Norwegian + 44.6% Greek @ 3.64
    3 56% Sicilian + 44% Estonian @ 6.17
    4 57% Sicilian + 43% Lithuanian @ 6.32
    5 62.6% Greek + 37.4% Estonian @ 6.33
    6 74.6% Norwegian + 25.4% Iraqi_Jew @ 6.4
    7 63.6% Greek + 36.4% Lithuanian @ 6.56
    8 73.7% Norwegian + 26.3% Turks_Adana @ 6.85
    9 68.7% Norwegian + 31.3% Turks_Istanbul @ 6.95
    10 75.4% Norwegian + 24.6% Iraqi_Mandaeans @ 6.96
    11 74.3% Norwegian + 25.7% Iraqi_Chaldeans @ 6.98
    12 74.2% Norwegian + 25.8% Turks_Kayseri @ 7
    13 76.4% Norwegian + 23.6% Assyrian @ 7.09
    14 76% Norwegian + 24% Armenian @ 7.12
    15 61.7% Greek + 38.3% Finnish @ 7.3
    16 54.8% Sicilian + 45.2% Finnish @ 7.36
    17 74.6% Norwegian + 25.4% Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 7.55
    18 76.7% Norwegian + 23.3% Jordanian @ 7.55
    19 71.5% Norwegian + 28.5% Turks_Aydin @ 7.68
    20 77.2% Norwegian + 22.8% Syrian @ 7.94
    Gedrosia K12 4-Ancestors Oracle

    Gedrosia K12 Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 37.89
    2 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 36.49
    3 CAUCASUS 12.87
    4 SW_ASIAN 6.48
    5 BALOCHI 3.99
    6 INDO_TIBETAN 1.08


    Finished reading population data. 87 populations found.
    12 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Norwegian @ 17.976423
    2 Greek @ 22.409592
    3 Sicilian @ 28.741140
    4 Russian @ 29.901581
    5 Finnish @ 34.044144
    6 Estonian @ 35.914646
    7 Turks_Istanbul @ 37.147942
    8 Lithuanian @ 37.301311
    9 Turks_Aydin @ 41.102245
    10 Turks_Balikesir @ 41.621426
    11 Turkmen_Afghan @ 45.635784
    12 Uzbek @ 46.241570
    13 Kurds_C @ 46.410824
    14 Kurds_N @ 46.641003
    15 Turks_Adana @ 47.053009
    16 Tajik_Pomiri @ 47.541668
    17 Turks_Kayseri @ 48.013206
    18 Iraqi_Chaldeans @ 48.315075
    19 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 48.488258
    20 Kurds_F @ 48.840389

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Greek +50% Norwegian @ 4.556041


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Lithuanian +25% Stuttgart +25% Turks_Kayseri @ 3.202945


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Armenian + BA_Sintashta + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 2.871755
    2 Armenian + Corded_Ware_LN + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 2.871755
    3 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.202945
    4 Assyrian + BA_Sintashta + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 3.214975
    5 Assyrian + Corded_Ware_LN + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 3.214975
    6 Lithuanian + Russian + Stuttgart + Turks_Istanbul @ 3.271981
    7 Estonian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.378764
    8 Kurds_N + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart @ 3.539606
    9 Armenian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart @ 3.546402
    10 Estonian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart + Turks_Istanbul @ 3.586907
    11 Estonian + Russian + Stuttgart + Turks_Istanbul @ 3.598495
    12 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart + Turks_Istanbul @ 3.598810
    13 Estonian + Kurds_N + Lithuanian + Stuttgart @ 3.612337
    14 Estonian + Estonian + Stuttgart + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.613381
    15 Estonian + Estonian + Stuttgart + Turks_Istanbul @ 3.641927
    16 Armenian + Estonian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart @ 3.683021
    17 Finnish + Lithuanian + Stuttgart + Turks_Istanbul @ 3.730208
    18 Estonian + Estonian + Kurds_N + Stuttgart @ 3.752987
    19 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart + Turks_Adana @ 3.774547
    20 BA_Sintashta + Norwegian + Sardinian + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.855678

    Ancient Eurasia K6 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.43
    2 Natufian 37.38
    3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.46
    4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.55
    5 Sub_Saharan 0.19

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Hungarian 1.81
    2 French 2.33
    3 English 2.8
    4 Czech 2.9
    5 Croatian 3.05
    6 Scottish 4.05
    7 Ukrainian 4.58
    8 Norwegian 4.85
    9 Icelandic 6.53
    10 Romanian 7.05
    11 Spanish 7.09
    12 Europe_LNBA 7.64
    13 Bulgarian 8.89
    14 Basque 9.6
    15 Estonian 10.17
    16 Lithuanian 10.73
    17 Russian 12.77
    18 Finnish 13.43
    19 Steppe_MLBA 13.54
    20 Albanian 13.58

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 97.1% French + 2.9% EHG @ 0.35
    2 97.8% French + 2.2% AG2 @ 0.41
    3 97.8% French + 2.2% AG3 @ 0.41
    4 97.8% French + 2.2% MA1 @ 0.41
    5 92.9% French + 7.1% Steppe_EMBA @ 0.49
    6 84.6% English + 15.4% Greek @ 0.51
    7 91.7% English + 8.3% Cypriot @ 0.52
    8 87.7% English + 12.3% Italian_South @ 0.53
    9 92.5% English + 7.5% Druze @ 0.56
    10 52.3% English + 47.7% Croatian @ 0.62
    11 83.3% English + 16.7% Albanian @ 0.64
    12 87% English + 13% Sicilian @ 0.64
    13 93.4% English + 6.6% Jew_Iranian @ 0.68
    14 91.3% Europe_LNBA + 8.7% Levant_N @ 0.68
    15 91.3% Europe_LNBA + 8.7% Natufian @ 0.68
    16 76.6% English + 23.4% Bulgarian @ 0.69
    17 67.6% Icelandic + 32.4% Albanian @ 0.7
    18 93.4% English + 6.6% Jew_iraqi @ 0.7
    19 93.6% English + 6.4% Levant_BA @ 0.71
    20 68.6% Croatian + 31.4% Icelandic @ 0.72

    Ancient Eurasia K6 4-Ancestors Oracle

    gedrosia K6 Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.43
    2 Natufian 37.38
    3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.46


    Finished reading population data. 136 populations found.
    6 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Hungarian @ 1.862990
    2 French @ 2.299802
    3 English @ 2.798044
    4 Czech @ 2.869628
    5 Croatian @ 3.080137
    6 Scottish @ 4.008484
    7 Ukrainian @ 4.512488
    8 Norwegian @ 4.773424
    9 Icelandic @ 6.500184
    10 Spanish @ 6.935360
    11 Romanian @ 7.104067
    12 Europe_LNBA @ 7.545347
    13 Bulgarian @ 8.975857
    14 Basque @ 9.558382
    15 Estonian @ 10.051054
    16 Lithuanian @ 10.666956
    17 Russian @ 12.751076
    18 Steppe_MLBA @ 13.234116
    19 Finnish @ 13.356215
    20 Albanian @ 13.582247

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Croatian +50% English @ 0.614564


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Croatian +25% English +25% English @ 0.614564


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Albanian + Europe_LNBA + French + Icelandic @ 0.474825
    2 Albanian + French + Icelandic + Icelandic @ 0.597442
    3 Albanian + English + English + Icelandic @ 0.598931
    4 Croatian + Croatian + English + English @ 0.614564
    5 Albanian + English + English + Europe_LNBA @ 0.630615
    6 Albanian + English + Icelandic + Scottish @ 0.633699
    7 Georgian + Greek + Hungarian_KO1 + Italian_South @ 0.677390
    8 Georgian + Greek + Italian_South + WHG @ 0.677390
    9 English + Greek + Icelandic + Icelandic @ 0.694817
    10 Albanian + English + Icelandic + Norwegian @ 0.709343
    11 Albanian + Europe_LNBA + Europe_LNBA + French @ 0.715769
    12 Bulgarian + English + English + English @ 0.719751
    13 Croatian + Croatian + Czech + English @ 0.721756
    14 Croatian + Croatian + Europe_LNBA + French @ 0.726560
    15 Croatian + Croatian + French + Icelandic @ 0.730708
    16 Bulgarian + English + French + Icelandic @ 0.739828
    17 Europe_LNBA + French + Greek + Icelandic @ 0.742598
    18 English + French + Norwegian + Romanian @ 0.748657
    19 French + Greek + Icelandic + Icelandic @ 0.751306
    20 Albanian + English + Icelandic + Icelandic @ 0.771199

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordarya View Post
    Maybe Eurogenes is set with a Polish standard. Which Gedmatch isn't biased?

    Ancestry DNA gave me British Isles and Norway. Living DNA had me British Isles @ 92.2%, Aegean @ 7.6% and Pashtun @ 1.2%.
    Ancestrydna seems to love telling people they are Irish and scandinavian.

    BTW, I edited my above post before this one it was a clusterfuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordarya View Post
    Living DNA has been forced to cut down on their African percentages, which I believe were inflated by cross-pollination with European ancestry in African-Americans, so they were reading African ancestry in Europeans, when it's actually Africans with European ancestry shifting the calculator off-kilter.

    It may be possible that I've been poking far too much fun at Albanians, but while Gedrosia K3 also makes me 0.00 distance from French, Gedrosia K12 makes my top two Norwegian and Greek. Ancient Eurasia K6 makes Hungarian and French my top hits. So yeah, I'd say Living DNA has got me right with Aegean, probably connecting Albanian-Hungarian-Greek, which is all loosely Balkan-oriented, with French and Norwegian making the majority of my DNA.

    Gedrosia K3 4-Ancestors Oracle


    Eurasia K3 Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 W_Eurasian 97.53
    2 E_Eurasian 2.06


    Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
    3 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 French @ 0.000000
    2 Albanian @ 0.296999
    3 Croatian @ 0.617447
    4 Czech @ 0.720982
    5 Greek @ 0.845519
    6 English @ 0.870279
    7 Norwegian @ 1.070001
    8 French_South @ 1.526260
    9 Bulgarian @ 1.535918
    10 Bergamo @ 1.805136
    11 Hungarian @ 1.934600
    12 Spanish @ 2.017633
    13 Lithuanian @ 2.080873
    14 Sardinian @ 2.536421
    15 LBK_EN @ 2.558893
    16 Georgian @ 2.632359
    17 Ukrainian @ 2.881934
    18 Stuttgart @ 3.242123
    19 Armenian @ 3.257833
    20 Sicilian @ 3.519022

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Albanian +50% Croatian @ 0.000000
    2 50% Albanian +50% Czech @ 0.000000
    3 50% Albanian +50% French @ 0.000000
    4 50% Bergamo +50% Bulgarian @ 0.000000
    5 50% Bergamo +50% Hungarian @ 0.000000
    6 50% Bergamo +50% Lithuanian @ 0.000000
    7 50% Bulgarian +50% English @ 0.000000
    8 50% Bulgarian +50% French_South @ 0.000000
    9 50% Croatian +50% French @ 0.000000
    10 50% Croatian +50% Greek @ 0.000000
    11 50% Czech +50% French @ 0.000000
    12 50% Czech +50% Greek @ 0.000000
    13 50% French +50% French @ 0.000000
    14 50% French_South +50% Hungarian @ 0.000000
    15 50% French_South +50% Lithuanian @ 0.000000
    16 50% French_South +50% Norwegian @ 0.000000
    17 50% LBK_EN +50% Lithuanian @ 0.000000
    18 50% Lithuanian +50% Sardinian @ 0.000000
    19 50% LBK_EN +50% Ukrainian @ 0.256065
    20 50% Hungarian +50% LBK_EN @ 0.279932


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Albanian +25% Albanian +25% Croatian @ 0.000000

    Gedrosia K12 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 37.9
    2 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 36.49
    3 CAUCASUS 12.87
    4 SW_ASIAN 6.49
    5 BALOCHI 3.99
    6 INDO_TIBETAN 1.08
    7 SUB_SAHARAN 0.79
    8 E_SIBERIAN 0.42

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Norwegian 16.82
    2 Greek 20.69
    3 Sicilian 26.73
    4 Russian 28.15
    5 Finnish 32
    6 Estonian 33.62
    7 Turks_Istanbul 34.36
    8 Lithuanian 34.95
    9 Turks_Aydin 38.3
    10 Turks_Balikesir 38.61
    11 Kurds_C 42.77
    12 Kurds_N 43
    13 Tajik_Pomiri 43.42
    14 Turkmen_Afghan 43.61
    15 Turks_Adana 43.62
    16 Turks_Kayseri 44.43
    17 Iraqi_Chaldeans 44.68
    18 Uzbek 44.75
    19 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad 44.87
    20 Kurds_F 45.09

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 61.6% Norwegian + 38.4% Sicilian @ 2.63
    2 55.4% Norwegian + 44.6% Greek @ 3.64
    3 56% Sicilian + 44% Estonian @ 6.17
    4 57% Sicilian + 43% Lithuanian @ 6.32
    5 62.6% Greek + 37.4% Estonian @ 6.33
    6 74.6% Norwegian + 25.4% Iraqi_Jew @ 6.4
    7 63.6% Greek + 36.4% Lithuanian @ 6.56
    8 73.7% Norwegian + 26.3% Turks_Adana @ 6.85
    9 68.7% Norwegian + 31.3% Turks_Istanbul @ 6.95
    10 75.4% Norwegian + 24.6% Iraqi_Mandaeans @ 6.96
    11 74.3% Norwegian + 25.7% Iraqi_Chaldeans @ 6.98
    12 74.2% Norwegian + 25.8% Turks_Kayseri @ 7
    13 76.4% Norwegian + 23.6% Assyrian @ 7.09
    14 76% Norwegian + 24% Armenian @ 7.12
    15 61.7% Greek + 38.3% Finnish @ 7.3
    16 54.8% Sicilian + 45.2% Finnish @ 7.36
    17 74.6% Norwegian + 25.4% Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 7.55
    18 76.7% Norwegian + 23.3% Jordanian @ 7.55
    19 71.5% Norwegian + 28.5% Turks_Aydin @ 7.68
    20 77.2% Norwegian + 22.8% Syrian @ 7.94
    Gedrosia K12 4-Ancestors Oracle

    Gedrosia K12 Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 37.89
    2 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 36.49
    3 CAUCASUS 12.87
    4 SW_ASIAN 6.48
    5 BALOCHI 3.99
    6 INDO_TIBETAN 1.08


    Finished reading population data. 87 populations found.
    12 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Norwegian @ 17.976423
    2 Greek @ 22.409592
    3 Sicilian @ 28.741140
    4 Russian @ 29.901581
    5 Finnish @ 34.044144
    6 Estonian @ 35.914646
    7 Turks_Istanbul @ 37.147942
    8 Lithuanian @ 37.301311
    9 Turks_Aydin @ 41.102245
    10 Turks_Balikesir @ 41.621426
    11 Turkmen_Afghan @ 45.635784
    12 Uzbek @ 46.241570
    13 Kurds_C @ 46.410824
    14 Kurds_N @ 46.641003
    15 Turks_Adana @ 47.053009
    16 Tajik_Pomiri @ 47.541668
    17 Turks_Kayseri @ 48.013206
    18 Iraqi_Chaldeans @ 48.315075
    19 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 48.488258
    20 Kurds_F @ 48.840389

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Greek +50% Norwegian @ 4.556041


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Lithuanian +25% Stuttgart +25% Turks_Kayseri @ 3.202945


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Armenian + BA_Sintashta + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 2.871755
    2 Armenian + Corded_Ware_LN + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 2.871755
    3 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.202945
    4 Assyrian + BA_Sintashta + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 3.214975
    5 Assyrian + Corded_Ware_LN + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 3.214975
    6 Lithuanian + Russian + Stuttgart + Turks_Istanbul @ 3.271981
    7 Estonian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.378764
    8 Kurds_N + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart @ 3.539606
    9 Armenian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart @ 3.546402
    10 Estonian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart + Turks_Istanbul @ 3.586907
    11 Estonian + Russian + Stuttgart + Turks_Istanbul @ 3.598495
    12 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart + Turks_Istanbul @ 3.598810
    13 Estonian + Kurds_N + Lithuanian + Stuttgart @ 3.612337
    14 Estonian + Estonian + Stuttgart + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.613381
    15 Estonian + Estonian + Stuttgart + Turks_Istanbul @ 3.641927
    16 Armenian + Estonian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart @ 3.683021
    17 Finnish + Lithuanian + Stuttgart + Turks_Istanbul @ 3.730208
    18 Estonian + Estonian + Kurds_N + Stuttgart @ 3.752987
    19 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart + Turks_Adana @ 3.774547
    20 BA_Sintashta + Norwegian + Sardinian + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.855678

    Ancient Eurasia K6 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.43
    2 Natufian 37.38
    3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.46
    4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.55
    5 Sub_Saharan 0.19

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Hungarian 1.81
    2 French 2.33
    3 English 2.8
    4 Czech 2.9
    5 Croatian 3.05
    6 Scottish 4.05
    7 Ukrainian 4.58
    8 Norwegian 4.85
    9 Icelandic 6.53
    10 Romanian 7.05
    11 Spanish 7.09
    12 Europe_LNBA 7.64
    13 Bulgarian 8.89
    14 Basque 9.6
    15 Estonian 10.17
    16 Lithuanian 10.73
    17 Russian 12.77
    18 Finnish 13.43
    19 Steppe_MLBA 13.54
    20 Albanian 13.58

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 97.1% French + 2.9% EHG @ 0.35
    2 97.8% French + 2.2% AG2 @ 0.41
    3 97.8% French + 2.2% AG3 @ 0.41
    4 97.8% French + 2.2% MA1 @ 0.41
    5 92.9% French + 7.1% Steppe_EMBA @ 0.49
    6 84.6% English + 15.4% Greek @ 0.51
    7 91.7% English + 8.3% Cypriot @ 0.52
    8 87.7% English + 12.3% Italian_South @ 0.53
    9 92.5% English + 7.5% Druze @ 0.56
    10 52.3% English + 47.7% Croatian @ 0.62
    11 83.3% English + 16.7% Albanian @ 0.64
    12 87% English + 13% Sicilian @ 0.64
    13 93.4% English + 6.6% Jew_Iranian @ 0.68
    14 91.3% Europe_LNBA + 8.7% Levant_N @ 0.68
    15 91.3% Europe_LNBA + 8.7% Natufian @ 0.68
    16 76.6% English + 23.4% Bulgarian @ 0.69
    17 67.6% Icelandic + 32.4% Albanian @ 0.7
    18 93.4% English + 6.6% Jew_iraqi @ 0.7
    19 93.6% English + 6.4% Levant_BA @ 0.71
    20 68.6% Croatian + 31.4% Icelandic @ 0.72

    Ancient Eurasia K6 4-Ancestors Oracle

    gedrosia K6 Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.43
    2 Natufian 37.38
    3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.46


    Finished reading population data. 136 populations found.
    6 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Hungarian @ 1.862990
    2 French @ 2.299802
    3 English @ 2.798044
    4 Czech @ 2.869628
    5 Croatian @ 3.080137
    6 Scottish @ 4.008484
    7 Ukrainian @ 4.512488
    8 Norwegian @ 4.773424
    9 Icelandic @ 6.500184
    10 Spanish @ 6.935360
    11 Romanian @ 7.104067
    12 Europe_LNBA @ 7.545347
    13 Bulgarian @ 8.975857
    14 Basque @ 9.558382
    15 Estonian @ 10.051054
    16 Lithuanian @ 10.666956
    17 Russian @ 12.751076
    18 Steppe_MLBA @ 13.234116
    19 Finnish @ 13.356215
    20 Albanian @ 13.582247

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Croatian +50% English @ 0.614564


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Croatian +25% English +25% English @ 0.614564


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Albanian + Europe_LNBA + French + Icelandic @ 0.474825
    2 Albanian + French + Icelandic + Icelandic @ 0.597442
    3 Albanian + English + English + Icelandic @ 0.598931
    4 Croatian + Croatian + English + English @ 0.614564
    5 Albanian + English + English + Europe_LNBA @ 0.630615
    6 Albanian + English + Icelandic + Scottish @ 0.633699
    7 Georgian + Greek + Hungarian_KO1 + Italian_South @ 0.677390
    8 Georgian + Greek + Italian_South + WHG @ 0.677390
    9 English + Greek + Icelandic + Icelandic @ 0.694817
    10 Albanian + English + Icelandic + Norwegian @ 0.709343
    11 Albanian + Europe_LNBA + Europe_LNBA + French @ 0.715769
    12 Bulgarian + English + English + English @ 0.719751
    13 Croatian + Croatian + Czech + English @ 0.721756
    14 Croatian + Croatian + Europe_LNBA + French @ 0.726560
    15 Croatian + Croatian + French + Icelandic @ 0.730708
    16 Bulgarian + English + French + Icelandic @ 0.739828
    17 Europe_LNBA + French + Greek + Icelandic @ 0.742598
    18 English + French + Norwegian + Romanian @ 0.748657
    19 French + Greek + Icelandic + Icelandic @ 0.751306
    20 Albanian + English + Icelandic + Icelandic @ 0.771199
    I give up on these calculators and tests. I am not a Marxist or Communist but Karl Marx was right about somethings :

    It must nestle everywhere, settle everywhere, establish connections everywhere. The bourgeoisie has through its exploitation of the world-market given a cosmopolitan character to production and consumption in every country. ... And as in material, so also in intellectual production.--Karl Marx

    That is the reason these tests all say something different and the calculators are all over the place. Science is now completely corrupted by politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Well, maybe it's from 200 years ago or so. How much African do you get on Dodecad World9?
    Sorry, I misread your request for Dodecad Africa9, because that's where I go for the racial admix, along with every EthioHelix app and puntDNAL Africa only. To isolate African ancestry, you have to use the right apps, all the same with the Asian ancestry by theirs. In any case, when apps tabulate African, it's a compilation of different populations in Africa, not a population in and of itself. With Eurasian populations, they're all sifted through with a fine-toothed comb and you can't see the forest for the trees. However, to understand the type of African DNA, you can't just group them all together, because not all of Africa is the same and there are different relationships with the outside world between its populations. My African is more consistent with Mediterranean Europe than Atlantic Europe, so mine is pre-1430s Portuguese contact not dissimilar from Albania and Kosovo and Living DNA proves that. Here though, it says I'm Mixed_Germanic & Puerto Rican, LOL.

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 92.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 7.6% PUR30 @ 0.44



    World9 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 71.55
    2 Southern 14.01
    3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 11.4
    4 Amerindian 1.15
    5 African 1.09
    6 South_Asian 0.53
    7 Australasian 0.26

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 2.79
    2 Dutch (Dodecad) 3.8
    3 German (Dodecad) 4.18
    4 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 4.4
    5 Cornwall (1000 Genomes) 4.53
    6 Kent (1000 Genomes) 4.71
    7 Hungarians (Behar) 4.79
    8 British (Dodecad) 4.86
    9 French (HGDP) 5
    10 British_Isles (Dodecad) 5.8
    11 French (Dodecad) 5.94
    12 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 6.82
    13 Irish (Dodecad) 6.85
    14 Orcadian (HGDP) 6.96
    15 Orkney (1000 Genomes) 7.33
    16 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 8.03
    17 Polish (Dodecad) 9.01
    18 Belorussian (Behar) 10.88
    19 Norwegian (Dodecad) 11.04
    20 Swedish (Dodecad) 11.5

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 92.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 7.6% PUR30 @ 0.44
    2 83.9% Dutch (Dodecad) + 16.1% Brazilian (Dodecad) @ 0.51
    3 82.6% German (Dodecad) + 17.4% Brazilian (Dodecad) @ 0.66
    4 94% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 6% Puerto_Rican @ 0.69
    5 87.9% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 12.1% Brazilian (Dodecad) @ 0.75
    6 94.3% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 5.7% Yemenese (Behar) @ 0.88
    7 94.1% Kent (1000 Genomes) + 5.9% Yemenese (Behar) @ 0.93
    8 91.6% Orcadian (HGDP) + 8.4% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 0.94
    9 94.2% German (Dodecad) + 5.8% Mozabite @ 0.94
    10 91.2% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 8.8% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 0.95
    11 93.9% Kent (1000 Genomes) + 6.1% Egyptans (Behar) @ 0.96
    12 94.2% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 5.8% Egyptans (Behar) @ 0.97
    13 91.2% Orcadian (HGDP) + 8.8% Egyptans (Behar) @ 1.02
    14 92.6% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 7.4% Egyptans (Behar) @ 1.02
    15 94.3% German (Dodecad) + 5.7% Moroccans (Behar) @ 1.02
    16 90.8% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 9.2% Egyptans (Behar) @ 1.07
    17 94% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 6% CLM30 @ 1.13
    18 94.4% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 5.6% Egyptans (Behar) @ 1.13
    19 93.8% British (Dodecad) + 6.2% Egyptans (Behar) @ 1.13
    20 92.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 7.2% Yemenese (Behar) @ 1.14

    World9 4-Ancestors Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 71.55
    2 Southern 14.01
    3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 11.40
    4 Amerindian 1.15
    5 African 1.09


    Finished reading population data. 250 populations found.
    9 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 2.865317
    2 Dutch_Dodecad @ 4.014021
    3 German_Dodecad @ 4.457733
    4 CEU30_1000Genomes @ 4.747824
    5 Cornwall_1000 Genomes @ 4.914500
    6 Kent_1000 Genomes @ 5.121396
    7 French_HGDP @ 5.200935
    8 Hungarians_Behar @ 5.220535
    9 British_Dodecad @ 5.269603
    10 French_Dodecad @ 6.210854
    11 British_Isles_Dodecad @ 6.324824
    12 Argyll_1000 Genomes @ 7.349492
    13 Irish_Dodecad @ 7.438264
    14 Orcadian_HGDP @ 7.562428
    15 Orkney_1000 Genomes @ 7.988347
    16 Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 8.479550
    17 Polish_Dodecad @ 9.627522
    18 Belorussian_Behar @ 11.595999
    19 Norwegian_Dodecad @ 12.006923
    20 Swedish_Dodecad @ 12.444424

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% German_Dodecad +50% French_HGDP @ 1.777643


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish_Dodecad +25% Murcia_1000 Genomes +25% Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.252110


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 German_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP + Extremadura_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.190573
    2 Orcadian_HGDP + CEU30_1000Genomes + Extremadura_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.191312
    3 Lithuanian_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Canarias_1000 Genomes @ 1.197042
    4 German_Dodecad + Portuguese_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.199314
    5 Polish_Dodecad + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Canarias_1000 Genomes @ 1.206762
    6 Orcadian_HGDP + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Murcia_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.210816
    7 Irish_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Portuguese_Dodecad + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.214865
    8 Irish_Dodecad + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Murcia_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.219863
    9 CEU30_1000Genomes + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Extremadura_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.220979
    10 Dutch_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP + Extremadura_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.222939
    11 Orcadian_HGDP + Hungarians_Behar + Lithuanians + Canarias_1000 Genomes @ 1.225473
    12 Portuguese_Dodecad + Cornwall_1000 Genomes + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.226601
    13 Hungarians_Behar + Lithuanians + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Canarias_1000 Genomes @ 1.228362
    14 German_Dodecad + Portuguese_Dodecad + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.231009
    15 Irish_Dodecad + CEU30_1000Genomes + Extremadura_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.231229
    16 Irish_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Extremadura_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.237714
    17 Irish_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Lithuanians + Canarias_1000 Genomes @ 1.241583
    18 Irish_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP + Murcia_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.243633
    19 German_Dodecad + Belorussian_Behar + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Canarias_1000 Genomes @ 1.244774
    20 Cornwall_1000 Genomes + Argyll_1000 Genomes + Extremadura_1000 Genomes + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.247871
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    Definitely, for instance K15 has a Baltic category that could be inflated for certain Western Demographics and Dodecad (sp ?) is greco-roman biased.



    AncestryDNA says I am mostly Irish and Scottish with English and small amounts of German and Scandinavian and tells me I am 1% nigger which is all bullshit because they do not differentiate between the Irish and Scots and the Scandinavian is from the Scottish etc...

    LivingDNA says I am Irish, Scottish, English and NorthCumbrian which sounds way more reasonable. Not only does my small amount of continental ancestry shows up as English but I actually have an ancestor from London .
    I'm actually happy that Living DNA reads my Continental ancestry as English, because I don't feel like the connections are more important than assessing DNA compatibility with Englishness. Consider the assimilation of the German members of the Royal family, the same as New Amsterdam becoming New York. Therefore, if Living DNA isolates incompatible ancestry as Aegean and Pashtun, the question remains how it got into my family tree. I then have to isolate haplogroup clades and subclades more common elsewhere than Anglo-Celtic populations, before it will make any sense why the percentages are read otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    Ancestrydna seems to love telling people they are Irish and scandinavian.

    BTW, I edited my above post before this one it was a clusterfuck.
    Well, I for one know that I am both and have traced this on paper as well as family tradition, so it's great that they don't miss that.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    I give up on these calculators and tests. I am not a Marxist or Communist but Karl Marx was right about somethings :

    It must nestle everywhere, settle everywhere, establish connections everywhere. The bourgeoisie has through its exploitation of the world-market given a cosmopolitan character to production and consumption in every country. ... And as in material, so also in intellectual production.--Karl Marx

    That is the reason these tests all say something different and the calculators are all over the place. Science is now completely corrupted by politics.
    I think it's capitalism providing an inferior service by pandering to potential customers, like the Cheerios ad with the mixed family. They're incompetent but have a brand name and mansions to build with a bread and circus philosophy. Compare Fox News telling people what we want to hear, rather than the Marxist or Communist ABC/CBS/CNN/MSNBC telling us we're worthless and that we should love them for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordarya View Post
    Sorry, I misread your request for Dodecad Africa9, because that's where I go for the racial admix, along with every EthioHelix app and puntDNAL Africa only. To isolate African ancestry, you have to use the right apps, all the same with the Asian ancestry by theirs. In any case, when apps tabulate African, it's a compilation of different populations in Africa, not a population in and of itself. With Eurasian populations, they're all sifted through with a fine-toothed comb and you can't see the forest for the trees. However, to understand the type of African DNA, you can't just group them all together, because not all of Africa is the same and there are different relationships with the outside world between its populations. My African is more consistent with Mediterranean Europe than Atlantic Europe, so mine is pre-1430s Portuguese contact not dissimilar from Albania and Kosovo and Living DNA proves that. Here though, it says I'm Mixed_Germanic & Puerto Rican, LOL.
    Valid points, Africa is genetically diverse even if they all look black to us.
    Well, even though I used non-serious language (distant Jigaboo), I didn't mean to troll. White Americans with deep roots in North America often do have traces of African and/or Native American down their line.

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