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    Probably Serb. Surname Tojaga.

    Population
    North_Atlantic 29.12 Pct
    Baltic 29.29 Pct
    West_Med 18.83 Pct
    West_Asian 7.93 Pct
    East_Med 9.20 Pct
    Red_Sea 1.69 Pct
    South_Asian 1.76 Pct
    East_Asian 1.53 Pct
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.65 Pct
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

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    Population
    North_Sea 22.81 Pct
    Atlantic 15.96 Pct
    Baltic 17.92 Pct
    Eastern_Euro 11.83 Pct
    West_Med 14.48 Pct
    West_Asian 6.95 Pct
    East_Med 5.90 Pct
    Red_Sea 1.44 Pct
    South_Asian 1.59 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 0.85 Pct
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.28 Pct
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insuperable View Post
    Probably Serb. Surname Tojaga.

    Population
    North_Atlantic 29.12 Pct
    Baltic 29.29 Pct
    West_Med 18.83 Pct
    West_Asian 7.93 Pct
    East_Med 9.20 Pct
    Red_Sea 1.69 Pct
    South_Asian 1.76 Pct
    East_Asian 1.53 Pct
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.65 Pct
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    K15
    Population
    North_Sea 22.81 Pct
    Atlantic 15.96 Pct
    Baltic 17.92 Pct
    Eastern_Euro 11.83 Pct
    West_Med 14.48 Pct
    West_Asian 6.95 Pct
    East_Med 5.90 Pct
    Red_Sea 1.44 Pct
    South_Asian 1.59 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 0.85 Pct
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.28 Pct
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -
    Interesting, it seems East Med of South Slavs is quite low. Many seem to have more West Med than East Med or a proportion in similar amounts, also a lot of North Atlantic, Atlantic and North Sea.

    It kinda conffirms the fact that Illyrians and other native Northwest Balkanites were more Iberian/North Italian-like than Greek-like. People have been speculating a Northeast Euro + Greek type of admixture in South Slavs for a long time, but it's most certainly wrong.

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    Says Croatian. I don't know where from. Probably Herzegovina or something

    K13
    Population
    North_Atlantic 27.89 Pct
    Baltic 29.48 Pct
    West_Med 16.13 Pct
    West_Asian 7.71 Pct
    East_Med 16.87 Pct
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian -
    East_Asian -
    Siberian 0.65 Pct
    Amerindian 0.83 Pct
    Oceanian 0.36 Pct
    Northeast_African 0.07 Pct
    Sub-Saharan -

    K15
    Population
    North_Sea 21.37 Pct
    Atlantic 16.09 Pct
    Baltic 17.94 Pct
    Eastern_Euro 11.77 Pct
    West_Med 11.64 Pct
    West_Asian 7.82 Pct
    East_Med 12.98 Pct
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian 0.07 Pct
    Amerindian 0.32 Pct
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

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    Doesn't say what she is. Seems to be Croat from Livno or Duvno, but can't be sure.

    K13
    North_Atlantic 28.71 Pct
    Baltic 25.86 Pct
    West_Med 19.85 Pct
    West_Asian 8.25 Pct
    East_Med 14.80 Pct
    Red_Sea 0.53 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian 1.65 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan 0.33 Pct






    K15
    North_Sea 18.31 Pct
    Atlantic 18.61 Pct
    Baltic 14.85 Pct
    Eastern_Euro 11.45 Pct
    West_Med 15.71 Pct
    West_Asian 9.06 Pct
    East_Med 10.26 Pct
    Red_Sea 0.40 Pct
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian 1.19 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan 0.14 Pct

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    All these Croats are well below average in their Baltic score. I know below 30% is more the exeption and not the rule but i also think the 36% the Eurogenes average has is not a good average as well. I rarely ever see Croats with 37% on Gedmatch and more often than not they are between 32-35%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    Interesting, it seems East Med of South Slavs is quite low. Many seem to have more West Med than East Med or a proportion in similar amounts, also a lot of North Atlantic, Atlantic and North Sea.

    It kinda conffirms the fact that Illyrians and other native Northwest Balkanites were more Iberian/North Italian-like than Greek-like. People have been speculating a Northeast Euro + Greek type of admixture in South Slavs for a long time, but it's most certainly wrong.
    these are the Montenegrin and Serb averages:
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6473624

    Bulgaria Iron age also had a 50/50 West med/East med ratio, like we do today:

    1 West_Med 31.11
    2 East_Med 30.15
    3 North_Atlantic 22.77
    4 West_Asian 8.14
    5 Baltic 4.36
    6 Red_Sea 3.47

    but before the arrival of Slavs somebody increased our North_Atlantic (Celts and Germans) and West Asian (Romans?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ljubic View Post
    All these Croats are well below average in their Baltic score. I know below 30% is more the exeption and not the rule but i also think the 36% the Eurogenes average has is not a good average as well. I rarely ever see Croats with 37% on Gedmatch and more often than not they are between 32-35%.
    out of ~30 Croat academic samples only 3 are 27-29% Baltic, and all others are 30+.
    idk how representative that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insuperable View Post
    Probably Serb. Surname Tojaga.

    Population
    North_Atlantic 29.12 Pct
    Baltic 29.29 Pct
    West_Med 18.83 Pct
    West_Asian 7.93 Pct
    East_Med 9.20 Pct
    Red_Sea 1.69 Pct
    South_Asian 1.76 Pct
    East_Asian 1.53 Pct
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.65 Pct
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

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    Population
    North_Sea 22.81 Pct
    Atlantic 15.96 Pct
    Baltic 17.92 Pct
    Eastern_Euro 11.83 Pct
    West_Med 14.48 Pct
    West_Asian 6.95 Pct
    East_Med 5.90 Pct
    Red_Sea 1.44 Pct
    South_Asian 1.59 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 0.85 Pct
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.28 Pct
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -
    Tojaga is Serbian surname from Lika, mostly from Kom and Zrmanja in southern Lika.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    out of ~30 Croat academic samples only 3 are 27-29% Baltic, and all others are 30+.
    idk how representative that is.
    How is the average of these 30 samples if I may ask? Those may not be many samples like the Serb ones but it could be interesting still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ljubic View Post
    How is the average of these 30 samples if I may ask? Those may not be many samples like the Serb ones but it could be interesting still.
    here:

    _ North_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian Northeast_African Sub-Saharan
    Zagreb(13) 27.21 36.11 14.54 7.94 9.44 1.45 0.97 0.30 0.33 0.80 0.40 0.32 0.19
    Herzegovina(5) 25.99 33.19 15.00 8.53 13.27 1.11 0.95 0.05 0.72 0.74 0.45 0.00 0.00
    Bosnia(6) 26.85 32.16 15.72 7.30 13.75 1.74 0.73 0.21 0.56 0.28 0.52 0.10 0.09
    Split(10) 25.95 31.39 16.33 8.23 13.73 1.64 0.39 0.35 0.52 0.56 0.56 0.22 0.13
    All(34) 26.60 33.60 15.34 8.00 12.03 1.51 0.76 0.26 0.48 0.63 0.48 0.20 0.13

    but i'm not sure is the Zagreb result indeed from those 13 Zagreb samples. it probably is. i'll check these days

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