South Slavic & neighbours Eurogenes results

[Insuperable]

Probably Serb. Surname Tojaga.

Population
North_Atlantic 29.12 Pct
Baltic 29.29 Pct
West_Med 18.83 Pct
West_Asian 7.93 Pct
East_Med 9.20 Pct
Red_Sea 1.69 Pct
South_Asian 1.76 Pct
East_Asian 1.53 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.65 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

K15
Population
North_Sea 22.81 Pct
Atlantic 15.96 Pct
Baltic 17.92 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.83 Pct
West_Med 14.48 Pct
West_Asian 6.95 Pct
East_Med 5.90 Pct
Red_Sea 1.44 Pct
South_Asian 1.59 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.85 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.28 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[Adamastor]

Probably Serb. Surname Tojaga.

Population
North_Atlantic 29.12 Pct
Baltic 29.29 Pct
West_Med 18.83 Pct
West_Asian 7.93 Pct
East_Med 9.20 Pct
Red_Sea 1.69 Pct
South_Asian 1.76 Pct
East_Asian 1.53 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.65 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

K15
Population
North_Sea 22.81 Pct
Atlantic 15.96 Pct
Baltic 17.92 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.83 Pct
West_Med 14.48 Pct
West_Asian 6.95 Pct
East_Med 5.90 Pct
Red_Sea 1.44 Pct
South_Asian 1.59 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.85 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.28 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Interesting, it seems East Med of South Slavs is quite low. Many seem to have more West Med than East Med or a proportion in similar amounts, also a lot of North Atlantic, Atlantic and North Sea.

It kinda conffirms the fact that Illyrians and other native Northwest Balkanites were more Iberian/North Italian-like than Greek-like. People have been speculating a Northeast Euro + Greek type of admixture in South Slavs for a long time, but it's most certainly wrong.

[Insuperable]

Says Croatian. I don't know where from. Probably Herzegovina or something

K13
Population
North_Atlantic 27.89 Pct
Baltic 29.48 Pct
West_Med 16.13 Pct
West_Asian 7.71 Pct
East_Med 16.87 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.65 Pct
Amerindian 0.83 Pct
Oceanian 0.36 Pct
Northeast_African 0.07 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

K15
Population
North_Sea 21.37 Pct
Atlantic 16.09 Pct
Baltic 17.94 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.77 Pct
West_Med 11.64 Pct
West_Asian 7.82 Pct
East_Med 12.98 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.07 Pct
Amerindian 0.32 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[Insuperable]

Doesn't say what she is. Seems to be Croat from Livno or Duvno, but can't be sure.

K13
North_Atlantic 28.71 Pct
Baltic 25.86 Pct
West_Med 19.85 Pct
West_Asian 8.25 Pct
East_Med 14.80 Pct
Red_Sea 0.53 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 1.65 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.33 Pct






K15
North_Sea 18.31 Pct
Atlantic 18.61 Pct
Baltic 14.85 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.45 Pct
West_Med 15.71 Pct
West_Asian 9.06 Pct
East_Med 10.26 Pct
Red_Sea 0.40 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 1.19 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.14 Pct

[Ljubic]

All these Croats are well below average in their Baltic score. I know below 30% is more the exeption and not the rule but i also think the 36% the Eurogenes average has is not a good average as well. I rarely ever see Croats with 37% on Gedmatch and more often than not they are between 32-35%.

[vbnetkhio]

Interesting, it seems East Med of South Slavs is quite low. Many seem to have more West Med than East Med or a proportion in similar amounts, also a lot of North Atlantic, Atlantic and North Sea.

It kinda conffirms the fact that Illyrians and other native Northwest Balkanites were more Iberian/North Italian-like than Greek-like. People have been speculating a Northeast Euro + Greek type of admixture in South Slavs for a long time, but it's most certainly wrong.

these are the Montenegrin and Serb averages:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6473624

Bulgaria Iron age also had a 50/50 West med/East med ratio, like we do today:

1 West_Med 31.11
2 East_Med 30.15
3 North_Atlantic 22.77
4 West_Asian 8.14
5 Baltic 4.36
6 Red_Sea 3.47

but before the arrival of Slavs somebody increased our North_Atlantic (Celts and Germans) and West Asian (Romans?)

[vbnetkhio]

All these Croats are well below average in their Baltic score. I know below 30% is more the exeption and not the rule but i also think the 36% the Eurogenes average has is not a good average as well. I rarely ever see Croats with 37% on Gedmatch and more often than not they are between 32-35%.

out of ~30 Croat academic samples only 3 are 27-29% Baltic, and all others are 30+.
idk how representative that is.

[Pribislav]

Probably Serb. Surname Tojaga.

Population
North_Atlantic 29.12 Pct
Baltic 29.29 Pct
West_Med 18.83 Pct
West_Asian 7.93 Pct
East_Med 9.20 Pct
Red_Sea 1.69 Pct
South_Asian 1.76 Pct
East_Asian 1.53 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.65 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

K15
Population
North_Sea 22.81 Pct
Atlantic 15.96 Pct
Baltic 17.92 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.83 Pct
West_Med 14.48 Pct
West_Asian 6.95 Pct
East_Med 5.90 Pct
Red_Sea 1.44 Pct
South_Asian 1.59 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.85 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.28 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Tojaga is Serbian surname from Lika, mostly from Kom and Zrmanja in southern Lika.

[Ljubic]

out of ~30 Croat academic samples only 3 are 27-29% Baltic, and all others are 30+.
idk how representative that is.

How is the average of these 30 samples if I may ask? Those may not be many samples like the Serb ones but it could be interesting still.

[vbnetkhio]

How is the average of these 30 samples if I may ask? Those may not be many samples like the Serb ones but it could be interesting still.

here:

_	North_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	Northeast_African	Sub-Saharan
Zagreb(13)	27.21	36.11	14.54	7.94	9.44	1.45	0.97	0.30	0.33	0.80	0.40	0.32	0.19
Herzegovina(5)	25.99	33.19	15.00	8.53	13.27	1.11	0.95	0.05	0.72	0.74	0.45	0.00	0.00
Bosnia(6)	26.85	32.16	15.72	7.30	13.75	1.74	0.73	0.21	0.56	0.28	0.52	0.10	0.09
Split(10)	25.95	31.39	16.33	8.23	13.73	1.64	0.39	0.35	0.52	0.56	0.56	0.22	0.13
All(34)	26.60	33.60	15.34	8.00	12.03	1.51	0.76	0.26	0.48	0.63	0.48	0.20	0.13

but i'm not sure is the Zagreb result indeed from those 13 Zagreb samples. it probably is. i'll check these days