Elite Colonial Brazilian DNA results

[Token]

LOL

''Reyzuh'' attacked my thread with one of his socks. Writing style is exactly the same, unless all Mexicans living in USA are illiterate in English.

This guy is still dreaming about being castizo.

[Adamastor]

This guy is still dreaming about being castizo.

Yeah, even some Mexicans with recent European ancestry don't reach Castizo range (let alone being 80% Euro...) and the guy thought he would be castizo being an average mestizo with Brazilian pardo phenotype.

I matched with some Italo-Mexicans in 23andme, MyHeritage and FTDNA, all of them are around 75-80% European. Keep in mind that these are people with recent Italian ancestors, so you can imagine how the average is for Mexicans without recent European ancestry. I have their results + family trees.

[Carlito's Way]

Yeah, even some Mexicans with recent European ancestry don't reach Castizo range (let alone being 80% Euro...) and the guy thought he would be castizo being an average mestizo with Brazilian pardo phenotype.

I matched with some Italo-Mexicans in 23andme, MyHeritage and FTDNA, all of them are around 75-80% European. Keep in mind that these are people with recent Italian ancestors, so you can imagine how the average is for Mexicans without recent European ancestry. I have their results + family trees.

I have many results on 23andMe with colonial mexicans who are over 90% European, also GedMatch
the hell you talking about? lol

Just stop being mad that even though many areas in Mexico are 100% colonial with hardly any recent European immigrants, not to mention that Mexico didn't get very many Europeans to settle in unlike in Brazil, we still have many Mexicans over 90% European who are colonial

I also doubt you match with Italo-Mexicans on 23andMe, since 23andMe doesn't ship to Mexico and it is very rare for them to move to the USA, what you are matching are half Mexicans and half Italians who live in the USA
MyHeritage is the same shit. especially since the Italian can come from the Iberian

stop being an idiot already



I dont trust your so called colonials, your people have to be ELITE to be this european and of "colonial" background while my people are from the rural lower classes LOL

[Adamastor]

I have many results on 23andMe with colonial mexicans who are over 90% European, also GedMatch
the hell you talking about? lol

Just stop being mad that even though many areas in Mexico are 100% colonial with hardly any recent European immigrants, not to mention that Mexico didn't get very many Europeans to settle in unlike in Brazil, we still have many Mexicans over 90% European who are colonial

I also doubt you match with Italo-Mexicans on 23andMe, since 23andMe doesn't ship to Mexico and it is very rare for them to move to the USA, what you are matching are half Mexicans and half Italians who live in the USA
MyHeritage is the same shit. especially since the Italian can come from the Iberian

stop being an idiot already



I dont trust your so called colonials, your people have to be ELITE to be this european and of "colonial" background while my people are from the rural lower classes LOL

Let's be honest: most colonial mexicans are Indo-Mestizos and balanced Mestizos while in Brazil we have colonial areas full of people near 90%+ European. Of course average colonial Brazilian isn't 90-100% European, but there are much more cases here than in Mexico since Brazil received 10x more Portuguese than Mexico received Spaniards and the immigration happened mostly in the 18th and early 19th (1700-1800) century while in Mexico most Spaniards moved there in the 1500-1600 centuries. I posted plenty of colonial Brazilian results.

Also, most of these Mexicans I'm matching have full family trees, I can tell you the surnames: [EDITED]
They seem to be part Italian and part colonial Mexican and they live in Mexico, so there's no way they are Mexican-American and Italian mixes.

Many of them are Mexicans with 1/4 or 1/2 Northern Italian ancestry. The Italian can come from the Iberian but the Iberian also can come from the Italian in the case of Northern Italians (some Northern Italians score more Iberian than Italian on MyHeritage) and they have family trees with many relatives up to great-great grandparents.

EDIT: I removed their surnames.

[Carlito's Way]

Let's be honest: most colonial mexicans are Indo-Mestizos and balanced Mestizos while in Brazil we have colonial areas full of people near 90%+ European.

Not true, most of Mexico is very colonial to begin with unless you can prove me that Mexico received a large number of European immigrants which you will not find a single source of that. Mexico is VERY colonial and much more than Brazil, now if you want to debunk me then start by posting the Europeans that settled in both nations

Mexico despite never attracting large numbers of Europeans, we still have areas where people are pred Euro-mestizo

Of course average colonial Brazilian isn't 90-100% European, but there are much more cases here than in Mexico since Brazil received 10x more Portuguese than Mexico received Spaniards and the immigration happened mostly in the 18th and early 19th (1700-1800) century while in Mexico most Spaniards moved there in the 1500-1600 centuries. I posted plenty of colonial Brazilian results.

You haven't proved they are colonial to begin with, considering the fact that you go by their ancestry being Iberian primerly lol that is not a real source
Portuguese kept immigrating in large numbers to your fucking country after the independence
that never happened in Mexico, Spaniards didn't even make 1% of the immigrants in the country


The problem here is that you are retarded and clueless about Mexican history
Maybe you should ask Argento to pass you all the census of immigrants in Latin America by number and percentages
Good luck finding Mexico with at least 1%, good luck amigo


and even with Mexico being one of the most colonial country in Latin America, it is still more European than other colonials that received little Europeans similar to Mexico

Also, most of these Mexicans I'm matching have full family trees, I can tell you the surnames: [EDITED]
They seem to be part Italian and part colonial Mexican and they live in Mexico, so there's no way they are Mexican-American and Italian mixes.

Many of them are Mexicans with 1/4 or 1/2 Northern Italian ancestry. The Italian can come from the Iberian but the Iberian also can come from the Italian in the case of Northern Italians (some Northern Italians score more Iberian than Italian on MyHeritage) and they have family trees with many relatives up to great-great grandparents.

EDIT: I removed their surnames.

What part of Mexico are they coming from? That will tell me if you are lying very quickly lol
and yes post the last names because I will easily figure out if they are really "Italomexicans"


also your examples mean nothing, many half whites and half Mexicans in the USA are over 80% European, many results on YouTube and Reddit for you to check out for yourself

[Carlito's Way]

LOL @ Adamastor thinking Mexico isn't of majority colonial stock lmaooooooooooooooo
poor guy, I think he thought the whitest areas of Mexico was due to recent Spanish immigrants LMAOOO
all are from colonial Iberian ancestry, amigo


recheck that history


all colonial and an immigrant to the USA, of poor rural background from Jalisco

Jalostotitlán, Jalisco







an immigrant who now lives in Texas

Monterrey, Nuevo Leon

[Latinus]

LOL @ Adamastor thinking Mexico isn't of majority colonial stock lmaooooooooooooooo
poor guy, I think he thought the whitest areas of Mexico was due to recent Spanish immigrants LMAOOO
all are from colonial Iberian ancestry, amigo


recheck that history


all colonial and an immigrant to the USA, of poor rural background from Jalisco

Jalostotitlán, Jalisco







an immigrant who now lives in Texas

Monterrey, Nuevo Leon

The woman looks like a typical Brazilian lady from the traditional elite, but you can also find a good chunck of people with her phenotype in the working class.

[HelloGuys]

Both. Mexico received fewer Spaniards than Brazil received Portuguese in the colonial times and post-independence European immigration in Brazil was also much bigger than in Mexico.

Most historians estimate the number of Spaniards immigrated in all of the Hispanic America to have been around 300.000-400.000 from 16th century to the independence in the 19th century. Only in the 18th century Brazil received 800.000 Portuguese colonists. The colonial European input in Brazil is 5x or 6x bigger than in the rest of Latin America.

This is an investigation I did; the total of Europeans arrived in Mexico from 1850 to 2017; I don't know how many spaniards arrived in colonial times; maybe we had 700,000 to almost 1 million of europeans since the "Conquista" to modern days

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...850-hasta-2017

*Results: 523,772 Europeos en 167 años (Sin contar el Periodo Colonial)

I am not saying that we have a lot of europeans almost like Argentina or Brazil (these thoughts would be dumbs) I just try to say that we had and have many criollos, maybe more than people thinks

[Adamastor]

You haven't proved they are colonial to begin with, considering the fact that you go by their ancestry being Iberian primerly lol that is not a real source

No, I go by their family trees, most people I post belong to Brazilian genealogy forums and groups. I don't choose random samples in GEDmatch like some forum members here do.

Portuguese kept immigrating in large numbers to your fucking country after the independence

This is true, but we have many areas that received scarce 19th century immigration and are more European than all colonial regions of Latin America. The reason is that:

https://journals.openedition.org/nuevomundo/63251

You can download the PDF, it shows that in the colonial period Brazil received almost 3x more Iberian settlers than all Hispanic American countries combined. ~200.000-300.000 in Hispanic America vs ~800.000 in Brazil (some academic sources state 1 million).

So finding very Euro Brazilians with pure colonial stock is more common than elsewhere in Latin America. I've posted people with genealogy in Brazil for the last 200-300 years that are approaching 99% European.

What part of Mexico are they coming from? That will tell me if you are lying very quickly lol

Veracruz.

[Duffmannn]

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