Elite Colonial Brazilian DNA results

[Duffmannn]

You just have to look on facebook to know that white mexicans are rare.

I did the experiment of searching for the official facebook page of villages certain places where european colonies (of italian, german...) origin were founded in some latin american countries. In the case of Mexico I did this with some settlements of Veracruz where supposedly there were italian colonies, or those spanish villages of Altos de Jalisco. You just have to look in one publication, between the people that comments and makes like, someone with a certain surname, look on his profile, and then you look in his friends other person with italian, german... surname, so many times.

The result was dissapointing, there were barely types passing in Italy or Spain, and I doubt that the scarce ones that do it are really genetically italian or spanish, rather than castizos or harnizos who get to have that look by genetical lottery (as Hello Guys).

While in Brazil the european types are, by a far and huge margin, much more common. But here the miscegenation is strong today, in some generations will happen the same than in Mexico, the brown higher rates and the miscegenation of the rural whites will produce full-brown areas, while the each time less full-whites will be constricted to certain urban areas where they are the elite (also suffering an slower miscegenation and loosing of european "purity" due to miscegenation)

[Adamastor]

You just have to look on facebook to know that white mexicans are rare.

I did the experiment of searching for the official facebook page of villages certain places where european colonies (of italian, german...) origin were founded in some latin american countries. In the case of Mexico I did this with some settlements of Veracruz where supposedly there were italian colonies, or those spanish villages of Altos de Jalisco. You just have to look in one publication, between the people that comments and makes like, someone with a certain surname, look on his profile, and then you look in his friends other person with italian, german... surname, so many times.

The result was dissapointing, there were barely types passing in Italy or Spain, and I doubt that the scarce ones that do it are really genetically italian or spanish, rather than castizos or harnizos who get to have that look by genetical lottery (as Hello Guys).

While in Brazil the european types are, by a far and huge margin, much more common. But here the miscegenation is strong today, in some generations will happen the same than in Mexico, the brown higher rates and the miscegenation of the rural whites will produce full-brown areas, while the each time less full-whites will be constricted to certain urban areas where they are the elite (also suffering an slower miscegenation and loosing of european "purity" due to miscegenation)

I agree, the future of all New World countries, including USA, is to be mostly brown in some generations. In 30-40 years from now USA will probably reach Brazilian levels of admixture and Brazil will be like Colombia, with full or near full whites being rare. In 100 years USA will be like Colombia and Brazil will be like Mexico or Dominican Republic.

[Lousianaboy]

Yeah, she's basically a Portuguese with very minor Amerindian admixture.

Estimating the exact quantity of Amerindian or SSA through GEDmatch in people who are above 85% European is hard because some Europeans can score these components in minor amounts (1-4% depending on the individual) as well.

This woman is likely in between 96-98% Portuguese.

she is 5 % amerindian is strong amerindian

[Adamastor]

she is 5 % amerindian is strong amerindian

GEDmatch:
6 Amerindian 3.01

And part of it in GEDmatch may be noise. MyHeritage Mesoamerican component is based on Mestizos. It's a known fact in the genetics community. Even people with no Latin American origins score MesoAmerican there for that reason.

[Leto]

In 30-40 years from now USA will probably reach Brazilian levels of admixture and Brazil will be like Colombia, with full or near full whites being rare. In 100 years USA will be like Colombia and Brazil will be like Mexico or Dominican Republic.

Do you think Colombia is less European than Northern and Northeastern parts of Brazil?

[Duffmannn]

I agree, the future of all New World countries, including USA, is to be mostly brown in some generations. In 30-40 years from now USA will probably reach Brazilian levels of admixture and Brazil will be like Colombia, with full or near full whites being rare. In 100 years USA will be like Colombia and Brazil will be like Mexico or Dominican Republic.

Not only New World countries, basically all the white countries in the world even in Europe. Only Eastern Europe will stay european, but diminishing so much its population due to low birthrates. And even in some eastern countries there´s a gypsy demographic boom.

The situation in countries like the United Kingdom, France or Belgium is not much better than in the USA, the only exception is that the USA had a 10% of non-white natives (the blacks). Without that beginning plus, the situation would be similar.

Some western countries or regions (most of Spain and Portugal, most of Italy, Eastern Germany, Austria, Wales, Ireland, Scotland) still can be saved, but becoming a regional minority respect the new brown majority (exactly as happens today in Brazil or Argentina)

Paradoxically one country with "good" demographical perspectives is Uruguay, that is (or will be very very soon) whiter than some european countries, and their browns are actually castizos, with no foreign inmigration.

Other countries as New Zealand and Australia at least are being substituted by east asians, it´s not that bad.

[Adamastor]

Do you think Colombia is less European than Northern and Northeastern parts of Brazil?

Probably a similar range. All of Brazil, apart from some isolated communities in the countryside, will be like Northeast Brazil in 50 years. The number of people identifying as white and with 90%+ European admixture is decreasing considerably as the years pass by. Brazil will be like Dominican Republic/Mexico in 100 years.

[Leto]

Probably a similar range. All of Brazil, apart from some isolated communities in the countryside, will be like Northeast Brazil in 50 years. The number of people identifying as white and with 90%+ European admixture is decreasing considerably as the years pass by. Brazil will be like Dominican Republic/Mexico in 100 years.

Mexico and the DR are less than 50% European on average, as far as I know. More like 40-45%.

[Smeagol]

Some western countries or regions (most of Spain and Portugal, most of Italy, Eastern Germany, Austria, Wales, Ireland, Scotland) still can be saved

Actually all western countries could be saved easily if their leaders had any interest in doing so. They would simply have to treat the third worlders as the invaders that they are rather than citizens with rights.

[Adamastor]

Mexico and the DR are less than 50% European on average, as far as I know. More like 40-45%.

Yep, likely something in between 35-45% for Mexico and 45-50% for Dominican Republic. Brazil is already tending to 65% rather than 70-75% as it was in the past. In 100 years Brazil will be 50% European on average, with higher SSA and Amerindian components. Something like 50% European, 35% SSA, 15% Amerindian.


In 1950 Brazil had at least 60% of ''whites'' (strict whites, 90%+ European), nowadays it's like 43% and many self-identified are less than 90% European (average being 85-88% European). So even the whites are becoming less Euro. In the future we will be like Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic, places where even people in 65-70% European range self-identify as white.