Sarmatian DNA

[Leto]

Where exactly are those samples from?

The first one is from a kurgan found in Nauyrzym Kazakhstan. Second one is from Kostanay.

It's a district in Kostanay oblast

Obviously the Asian was a migrant from the East, most likely from what is now Mongolia or around that area.

[SharpFork]

It's a district in Kostanay oblast
Obviously the Asian was a migrant from the East, most likely from what is now Mongolia or around that area.

Definitely a migrant, no Turkic group outside Siberian are as East Eurasian as this sample, even modern Mongols have on average similar amounts of West Eurasian DNA.

[Gaditanian]

Cool, so this Hun was a real mongoloid, I thought that huns were heavily mixed with white component and their east asian phenotype written in the texts were more legend than reality

[Aileron]

My ancestors....

[xripkan]

Late Sarmatian of Eastern Europe 65-220 CE

YDNA R-Z93>R-Y52

1 West_Asian 27.97
2 North_Atlantic 27.4
3 Baltic 21.9
4 Siberian 8.81
5 South_Asian 6.57
6 Amerindian 4.9
7 East_Asian 1.23
8 Oceanian 0.73
9 Sub-Saharan 0.48

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tatar 22.21
2 Tadjik 22.7
3 Nogay 23.63
4 Tabassaran 24.63
5 Moldavian 26.99
6 Hungarian 27.07
7 Chechen 27.07
8 Lezgin 27.39
9 Afghan_Tadjik 27.87
10 Serbian 28.28
11 Austrian 28.35
12 Croatian 28.62
13 Kabardin 28.63
14 Romanian 28.64
15 Afghan_Turkmen 28.83
16 East_German 29.03
17 Kumyk 29.18
18 Afghan_Pashtun 29.21
19 North_German 29.48
20 West_German 29.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.2% Tadjik + 40.8% North_Swedish @ 10.15
2 59.3% Tadjik + 40.7% Swedish @ 10.38
3 60.2% Tadjik + 39.8% Norwegian @ 10.64
4 60.7% Tadjik + 39.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 10.85
5 60.3% Tadjik + 39.7% North_Dutch @ 11.41
6 58.1% Tadjik + 41.9% North_German @ 11.42
7 57% Tabassaran + 43% North_Swedish @ 11.46
8 61.6% Tadjik + 38.4% Finnish @ 11.51
9 60% Tadjik + 40% Danish @ 11.57
10 61.1% Tadjik + 38.9% Irish @ 11.68
11 51.9% Afghan_Pashtun + 48.1% North_Swedish @ 11.81
12 61.2% Tadjik + 38.8% Orcadian @ 11.84
13 59.1% North_Swedish + 40.9% Brahui @ 11.85
14 61.8% Tadjik + 38.2% West_Scottish @ 11.86
15 58.2% North_Swedish + 41.8% Balochi @ 11.89
16 53.4% Afghan_Tadjik + 46.6% Swedish @ 11.97
17 53.3% Afghan_Tadjik + 46.7% North_Swedish @ 12.02
18 58.6% Tabassaran + 41.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 12.1
19 63.5% Tadjik + 36.5% Estonian @ 12.14
20 54.3% Afghan_Tadjik + 45.7% Norwegian @ 12.18



Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Chuvash + Tabassaran + Tadjik + West_Scottish @ 9.854716
2 Chuvash + Irish + Tabassaran + Tadjik @ 9.869837
3 Irish + Mari + Tabassaran + Tadjik @ 9.999083
4 Mari + Tabassaran + Tadjik + West_Scottish @ 10.005736
5 Afghan_Pashtun + Chuvash + Tabassaran + West_Scottish @ 10.025266
6 Afghan_Pashtun + Mari + Tabassaran + West_Scottish @ 10.068391
7 Chuvash + Norwegian + Tabassaran + Tadjik @ 10.081212
8 Afghan_Pashtun + Chuvash + Irish + Tabassaran @ 10.089073
9 Norwegian + Tabassaran + Tadjik + Tatar @ 10.102799
10 Afghan_Pashtun + Irish + Mari + Tabassaran @ 10.110901
11 Mari + Tabassaran + Tabassaran + West_Scottish @ 10.145350
12 Irish + Mari + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 10.211208
13 Mari + Norwegian + Tabassaran + Tadjik @ 10.230533
14 Afghan_Pashtun + Chuvash + Norwegian + Tabassaran @ 10.244635
15 Irish + Tabassaran + Tadjik + Tatar @ 10.245442
16 Tabassaran + Tadjik + Tatar + West_Scottish @ 10.267511
17 Chuvash + Orcadian + Tabassaran + Tadjik @ 10.280153
18 Afghan_Pashtun + Mari + Norwegian + Tabassaran @ 10.286803
19 Chuvash + Kalash + Tabassaran + West_Scottish @ 10.313425
20 Swedish + Tabassaran + Tadjik + Tatar @ 10.316958

[Leto]

Late Sarmatian of Eastern Europe 65-220 CE

YDNA R-Z93>R-Y52

1 West_Asian 27.97
2 North_Atlantic 27.4
3 Baltic 21.9
4 Siberian 8.81
5 South_Asian 6.57
6 Amerindian 4.9
7 East_Asian 1.23
8 Oceanian 0.73
9 Sub-Saharan 0.48

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tatar 22.21
2 Tadjik 22.7
3 Nogay 23.63
4 Tabassaran 24.63
5 Moldavian 26.99
6 Hungarian 27.07
7 Chechen 27.07
8 Lezgin 27.39
9 Afghan_Tadjik 27.87
10 Serbian 28.28
11 Austrian 28.35
12 Croatian 28.62
13 Kabardin 28.63
14 Romanian 28.64
15 Afghan_Turkmen 28.83
16 East_German 29.03
17 Kumyk 29.18
18 Afghan_Pashtun 29.21
19 North_German 29.48
20 West_German 29.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.2% Tadjik + 40.8% North_Swedish @ 10.15
2 59.3% Tadjik + 40.7% Swedish @ 10.38
3 60.2% Tadjik + 39.8% Norwegian @ 10.64
4 60.7% Tadjik + 39.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 10.85
5 60.3% Tadjik + 39.7% North_Dutch @ 11.41
6 58.1% Tadjik + 41.9% North_German @ 11.42
7 57% Tabassaran + 43% North_Swedish @ 11.46
8 61.6% Tadjik + 38.4% Finnish @ 11.51
9 60% Tadjik + 40% Danish @ 11.57
10 61.1% Tadjik + 38.9% Irish @ 11.68
11 51.9% Afghan_Pashtun + 48.1% North_Swedish @ 11.81
12 61.2% Tadjik + 38.8% Orcadian @ 11.84
13 59.1% North_Swedish + 40.9% Brahui @ 11.85
14 61.8% Tadjik + 38.2% West_Scottish @ 11.86
15 58.2% North_Swedish + 41.8% Balochi @ 11.89
16 53.4% Afghan_Tadjik + 46.6% Swedish @ 11.97
17 53.3% Afghan_Tadjik + 46.7% North_Swedish @ 12.02
18 58.6% Tabassaran + 41.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 12.1
19 63.5% Tadjik + 36.5% Estonian @ 12.14
20 54.3% Afghan_Tadjik + 45.7% Norwegian @ 12.18



Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Chuvash + Tabassaran + Tadjik + West_Scottish @ 9.854716
2 Chuvash + Irish + Tabassaran + Tadjik @ 9.869837
3 Irish + Mari + Tabassaran + Tadjik @ 9.999083
4 Mari + Tabassaran + Tadjik + West_Scottish @ 10.005736
5 Afghan_Pashtun + Chuvash + Tabassaran + West_Scottish @ 10.025266
6 Afghan_Pashtun + Mari + Tabassaran + West_Scottish @ 10.068391
7 Chuvash + Norwegian + Tabassaran + Tadjik @ 10.081212
8 Afghan_Pashtun + Chuvash + Irish + Tabassaran @ 10.089073
9 Norwegian + Tabassaran + Tadjik + Tatar @ 10.102799
10 Afghan_Pashtun + Irish + Mari + Tabassaran @ 10.110901
11 Mari + Tabassaran + Tabassaran + West_Scottish @ 10.145350
12 Irish + Mari + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 10.211208
13 Mari + Norwegian + Tabassaran + Tadjik @ 10.230533
14 Afghan_Pashtun + Chuvash + Norwegian + Tabassaran @ 10.244635
15 Irish + Tabassaran + Tadjik + Tatar @ 10.245442
16 Tabassaran + Tadjik + Tatar + West_Scottish @ 10.267511
17 Chuvash + Orcadian + Tabassaran + Tadjik @ 10.280153
18 Afghan_Pashtun + Mari + Norwegian + Tabassaran @ 10.286803
19 Chuvash + Kalash + Tabassaran + West_Scottish @ 10.313425
20 Swedish + Tabassaran + Tadjik + Tatar @ 10.316958

I think HarappaWorld and Dodecad K12b are better for such groups although they aren't really similar to any modern population. See the total absense of Med components together with the high West Asian.

[Ülev]

I expected that Sarmatian is C-M130

[xripkan]

I think HarappaWorld and Dodecad K12b are better for such groups although they aren't really similar to any modern population. See the total absense of Med components together with the high West Asian.

HarrapaWorld

1 NE-Euro 36.42
2 Baloch 24.78
3 Caucasian 12.8
4 Mediterranean 7.77
5 Siberian 6.2
6 American 3.97
7 NE-Asian 3.64
8 Beringian 1.83
9 S-Indian 1.01
10 W-African 0.66
11 Pygmy 0.48
12 Papuan 0.45

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 tajik (yunusbayev) 22.25
2 chuvash (behar) 22.85
3 hungarian (behar) 26.28
4 romanian-a (behar) 26.55
5 slovenian (xing) 26.84
6 mordovian (yunusbayev) 27.63
7 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 28.05
8 ukranian (yunusbayev) 28.54
9 uzbek (behar) 29.45
10 stalskoe (xing) 29.46
11 nogai (yunusbayev) 29.5
12 turkmen (yunusbayev) 30.06
13 n-european (xing) 30.84
14 russian (hgdp) 30.99
15 urkarah (xing) 31.02
16 utahn-white (hapmap) 31.34
17 utahn-white (1000genomes) 31.44
18 pashtun (harappa) 31.45
19 haryana-jatt (harappa) 31.95
20 russian (behar) 32.29

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.7% tajik (yunusbayev) + 41.3% russian (hgdp) @ 6.1
2 63.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 36.2% lithuanian (behar) @ 6.14
3 55.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 44.2% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 6.27
4 60.4% tajik (yunusbayev) + 39.6% belorussian (behar) @ 7.33
5 68.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 31.2% finnish (1000genomes) @ 7.61
6 60% tajik (yunusbayev) + 40% russian (behar) @ 7.74
7 62.3% mordovian (yunusbayev) + 37.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 7.99
8 56.9% tajik (yunusbayev) + 43.1% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 8.05
9 62% mordovian (yunusbayev) + 38% balochi (hgdp) @ 8.34
10 63.2% mordovian (yunusbayev) + 36.8% brahui (hgdp) @ 8.44
11 59.4% russian (hgdp) + 40.6% makrani (hgdp) @ 8.81
12 50.8% tajik (yunusbayev) + 49.2% chuvash (behar) @ 8.86
13 58.4% russian (behar) + 41.6% makrani (hgdp) @ 9.02
14 59.3% russian (behar) + 40.7% brahui (hgdp) @ 9.15
15 58% russian (behar) + 42% balochi (hgdp) @ 9.28
16 67.6% chuvash (behar) + 32.4% makrani (hgdp) @ 9.61
17 67.3% chuvash (behar) + 32.7% balochi (hgdp) @ 9.72
18 68.5% chuvash (behar) + 31.5% brahui (hgdp) @ 9.75
19 57.3% mordovian (yunusbayev) + 42.7% kalash (hgdp) @ 9.88
20 59.5% tajik (yunusbayev) + 40.5% n-european (xing) @ 9.96


Population Percent
1 North_European 36.68
2 Gedrosia 25.26
3 Atlantic_Med 12.9
4 Caucasus 8.31
5 Siberian 7.8
6 East_Asian 5.98
7 South_Asian 1.99
8 Sub_Saharan 0.93
9 Northwest_African 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 22.77
2 Chuvashs (Behar) 28.14
3 Hungarians (Behar) 28.57
4 German (Dodecad) 29.16
5 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 30.1
6 Uzbeks (Behar) 30.84
7 Romanians (Behar) 31.34
8 Dutch (Dodecad) 31.38
9 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 31.91
10 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 32.22
11 Argyll (1000Genomes) 32.29
12 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 32.37
13 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 32.77
14 English (Dodecad) 32.9
15 Kent (1000Genomes) 32.96
16 Swedish (Dodecad) 33.01
17 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 33.1
18 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 33.4
19 Orkney (1000Genomes) 33.55
20 Norwegian (Dodecad) 33.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 40.1% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 7.22
2 60.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 39.6% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 7.68
3 65.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 34.4% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 7.93
4 66.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 33.3% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 8.19
5 61.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 38.5% Russian (HGDP) @ 9.39
6 68.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 31.9% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 9.74
7 62.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 37.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 9.86
8 60.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 39.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 10.04
9 66.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 33.1% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 10.13
10 62.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 37.5% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 10.25
11 60% Russian (HGDP) + 40% Makrani (HGDP) @ 10.3
12 57.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 42.7% German (Dodecad) @ 10.31
13 61.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 38.4% Makrani (HGDP) @ 10.45
14 64.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 35.2% Belorussian (Behar) @ 10.45
15 61.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 38.8% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 10.5
16 60.6% Russian (HGDP) + 39.4% Balochi (HGDP) @ 10.51
17 62.2% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 37.8% Balochi (HGDP) @ 10.62
18 64.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 35.7% Brahui (HGDP) @ 10.68
19 67.9% Chuvashs (Behar) + 32.1% Brahui (HGDP) @ 10.7
20 60.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 39.7% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 10.71

[xripkan]

I expected that Sarmatian is C-M130

Sarmatians originated from Andronovo culture. It seems that the clades R-Y52 and R-YP4768(my clade) under R-Z2122 are the best candidates for the Sarmatian tribes who arrived in Eastern Europe from the Steppes a little bit before the Roman era.