Proto-Avar Gedmatch + Global25.

[axlredneck]

I didn't say anything in terms of looks.

Oh okay!

[Leto]

Yeah, this one scores more Siberian than NE Asian, which is a little different from Central Asians who normally score more NE-Asian than Siberian.

1 Siberian 48.26
2 NE-Asian 33.89

A Kalmyk, also more NE-Asian than Siberian.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Asian 39.19
2 Siberian 34.42
3 NE-Euro 7.3
4 Caucasian 6.7
5 Baloch 5.95
6 Beringian 1.72
7 SE-Asian 1.39
8 S-Indian 1.22
9 American 1.21
10 Papuan 0.64
11 Mediterranean 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 mongolian (rasmussen) 4.38
2 kyrgyz (hodoglugil) 8.15
3 kyrgyz (xing) 9.68
4 altaian (rasmussen) 13.06
5 kazakh (harappa) 13.77
6 buryat (xing) 15.13
7 oroqen (hgdp) 16.58
8 buryat (rasmussen) 17.98
9 tuvinian (rasmussen) 18.05
10 daur (hgdp) 21.56
11 hezhen (hgdp) 22.6
12 hazara (hgdp) 23.86
13 uyghur (hgdp) 24.52
14 mongola (hgdp) 26.13
15 uzbek (behar) 28.99
16 xibo (hgdp) 29.83
17 nepalese-b (xing) 37.36
18 yukaghir (rasmussen) 37.52
19 tu (hgdp) 40.41
20 burmanese (chaubey) 40.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.2% mongolian (rasmussen) + 12.8% uyghur (hgdp) @ 2.51
2 68% kyrgyz (hodoglugil) + 32% oroqen (hgdp) @ 2.63
3 69.9% mongolian (rasmussen) + 30.1% kyrgyz (hodoglugil) @ 2.91
4 87.9% mongolian (rasmussen) + 12.1% hazara (hgdp) @ 2.94
5 95.2% mongolian (rasmussen) + 4.8% urkarah (xing) @ 3.01
6 95.4% mongolian (rasmussen) + 4.6% lezgin (behar) @ 3.05
7 95.4% mongolian (rasmussen) + 4.6% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 3.05
8 95.5% mongolian (rasmussen) + 4.5% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 3.13
9 95.2% mongolian (rasmussen) + 4.8% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 3.14
10 95.1% mongolian (rasmussen) + 4.9% stalskoe (xing) @ 3.14
11 90.4% mongolian (rasmussen) + 9.6% uzbek (behar) @ 3.14
12 95.4% mongolian (rasmussen) + 4.6% balkar (yunusbayev) @ 3.14
13 95.6% mongolian (rasmussen) + 4.4% adygei (hgdp) @ 3.14
14 93.8% mongolian (rasmussen) + 6.2% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 3.14
15 96.2% mongolian (rasmussen) + 3.8% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 3.24
16 96.3% mongolian (rasmussen) + 3.7% georgian (behar) @ 3.27
17 94.5% mongolian (rasmussen) + 5.5% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 3.28
18 94.4% mongolian (rasmussen) + 5.6% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 3.28
19 95.9% mongolian (rasmussen) + 4.1% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 3.4
20 95.6% mongolian (rasmussen) + 4.4% iranian (harappa) @ 3.4

His daughter (half Russian)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 31.94
2 Siberian 19.87
3 NE-Asian 18.8
4 Mediterranean 10.54
5 Caucasian 9.81
6 Baloch 6.54
7 Beringian 1.38
8 Papuan 0.47
9 SE-Asian 0.32
10 Pygmy 0.19
11 American 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 uzbek (behar) 21.85
2 kazakh (harappa) 22.01
3 chuvash (behar) 23.53
4 uyghur (hgdp) 25.31
5 kyrgyz (xing) 26.33
6 kyrgyz (hodoglugil) 27.03
7 hazara (hgdp) 27.46
8 altaian (rasmussen) 30.22
9 nogai (yunusbayev) 30.53
10 romanian-a (behar) 31.88
11 hungarian (behar) 32.85
12 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 32.95
13 slovenian (xing) 33.4
14 mordovian (yunusbayev) 34.11
15 tajik (yunusbayev) 35.13
16 ukranian (yunusbayev) 35.48
17 mongolian (rasmussen) 36.14
18 russian (hgdp) 36.27
19 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 36.84
20 french (hgdp) 36.84

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.5% ukranian (yunusbayev) + 49.5% mongolian (rasmussen) @ 2.3
2 56.8% kyrgyz (hodoglugil) + 43.2% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 3.48
3 61.9% kazakh (harappa) + 38.1% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 3.78
4 64.3% kazakh (harappa) + 35.7% belorussian (behar) @ 3.84
5 59.4% kyrgyz (hodoglugil) + 40.6% belorussian (behar) @ 3.88
6 63.6% kazakh (harappa) + 36.4% russian (behar) @ 4.02
7 52% slovenian (xing) + 48% mongolian (rasmussen) @ 4.12
8 58.6% kyrgyz (hodoglugil) + 41.4% russian (behar) @ 4.16
9 52.1% mongolian (rasmussen) + 47.9% belorussian (behar) @ 4.17
10 55.3% ukranian (yunusbayev) + 44.7% buryat (xing) @ 4.3
11 57.7% ukranian (yunusbayev) + 42.3% oroqen (hgdp) @ 4.3
12 51.3% mongolian (rasmussen) + 48.7% russian (behar) @ 4.53
13 55.9% kyrgyz (hodoglugil) + 44.1% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 4.59
14 52.4% hungarian (behar) + 47.6% mongolian (rasmussen) @ 4.9
15 51.5% mordovian (yunusbayev) + 48.5% mongolian (rasmussen) @ 4.92
16 61.1% kazakh (harappa) + 38.9% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 4.92
17 59.3% slovenian (xing) + 40.7% oroqen (hgdp) @ 4.92
18 52.6% altaian (rasmussen) + 47.4% slovenian (xing) @ 4.96
19 67.5% kazakh (harappa) + 32.5% lithuanian (behar) @ 5.05
20 60.7% kazakh (harappa) + 39.3% slovenian (xing) @ 5.05

[axlredneck]

A Kalmyk, also more NE-Asian than Siberian.

NE Asian is Tungusic-like?

[Leto]

NE Asian is Tungusic-like?

No, I think Northeast Asians like Northern Han Chinese, Koreans and Japanese score over 70% NE-Asian.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...asian-Siberian

[Leto]

del

[axlredneck]

No, I think Northeast Asians like Northern Han Chinese, Koreans and Japanese score over 70% NE-Asian.

Hmmm

[axlredneck]

From the paper: Y-chromosome haplogroups from Hun, Avar and conquering Hungarian period nomadic people of the Carpathian Basin:

Most of the Avar-age individuals carry east Eurasian Y haplogroups typical for modern north-eastern Siberian and Buryat populations and their autosomal loci indicate mostly un-admixed Asian characteristics.

The Avar age remains are anthropologically extremely heterogeneous, with considerable proportion of Mongoloid and Europo-Monoloid elements reaching 20–30% on the Great Hungarian Plain2, attesting that the Carpathian Basin witnessed the largest invasion of people from Asia during this period. Most individuals buried with rich grave goods show Mongoloid characters indicating inner Asian origin of the Avar elite, which is also supported by their artifact types, titles (e.g. khagan) and institutions recognized to be derived from Inner Asian Rourans.

From 568 AD the Avars established an empire in the region lasting nearly for 250 years, until they were defeated by the Franks and Bulgars in 803, then their steppe-empire ended around 822 AD.

From the Avar period only a few mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) data are available from two micro-regions which showed 15.3% and 6.52% frequency of East Eurasian elements. A recent manuscript described 23 mitogenomes from the 7th-8th century Avar elite group and found that 64% of the lineages belong to East Asian haplogroups (C, D, F, M, R, Y and Z) with affinities to ancient and modern Inner Asian populations corroborating their Rouran origin.

All N-Hg-s identified in the Avars and Conquerors belonged to N1a1a-M178. We have tested 7 subclades of M178; N1a1a2-B187, N1a1a1a2-B211, N1a1a1a1a3-B197, N1a1a1a1a4-M2118, N1a1a1a1a1a-VL29, N1a1a1a1a2-Z1936 and the N1a1a1a1a2a1c1-L1034 subbranch of Z1936. The European subclades VL29 and Z1936 could be excluded in most cases, while the rest of the suclades are prevalent in Siberia from where this Hg dispersed in a counter-clockwise migratory route to Europe. Avar sample MM/58, did not go into any of the tested M178 subclades, while only N1a1a2 could be excluded for the KB/300 Avar khagan due to low coverage. All the 5 other Avar samples belonged to N1a1a1a1a3-B197, which is most prevalent in Chukchi, Buryats, Eskimos, Koryaks and appears among Tuvans and Mongols with lower frequency.

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Avars were indeed Buryat like people, last paper on them said the same.

Indeed!

[Kaspias]

Yeah, this one scores more Siberian than NE Asian, which is a little different from Central Asians who normally score more NE-Asian than Siberian.

1 Siberian 48.26
2 NE-Asian 33.89

I

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 27.18
2 Caucasian 25.14
3 Mediterranean 17.06
4 Baloch 9.81
5 SW-Asian 9.44
6 Siberian 5.1
7 Beringian 2.02
8 NE-Asian 1.75
9 S-Indian 1.47
10 Papuan 0.56
11 American 0.22
12 E-African 0.15
13 W-African 0.09

Cousin

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 25.22
2 NE-Euro 24.9
3 Mediterranean 18.51
4 SW-Asian 10.85
5 Baloch 9.47
6 Siberian 4.78
7 S-Indian 2.89
8 NE-Asian 2.37
9 American 0.57
10 W-African 0.45

Friend

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 26.78
2 NE-Euro 23.54
3 Mediterranean 18.39
4 Baloch 10.01
5 SW-Asian 9.1
6 Siberian 5.28
7 S-Indian 2.34
8 NE-Asian 1.95
9 Beringian 1.43
10 American 0.46
11 E-African 0.46
12 Papuan 0.25

[Leto]

I

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 27.18
2 Caucasian 25.14
3 Mediterranean 17.06
4 Baloch 9.81
5 SW-Asian 9.44
6 Siberian 5.1
7 Beringian 2.02
8 NE-Asian 1.75
9 S-Indian 1.47
10 Papuan 0.56
11 American 0.22
12 E-African 0.15
13 W-African 0.09

Cousin

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 25.22
2 NE-Euro 24.9
3 Mediterranean 18.51
4 SW-Asian 10.85
5 Baloch 9.47
6 Siberian 4.78
7 S-Indian 2.89
8 NE-Asian 2.37
9 American 0.57
10 W-African 0.45

Friend

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 26.78
2 NE-Euro 23.54
3 Mediterranean 18.39
4 Baloch 10.01
5 SW-Asian 9.1
6 Siberian 5.28
7 S-Indian 2.34
8 NE-Asian 1.95
9 Beringian 1.43
10 American 0.46
11 E-African 0.46
12 Papuan 0.25

Now we have found the source of your East Eurasian!

Volga Tatars have the same Sib-NEA ratio by the way. Like 2:1 or even 3:1.

[Blondie]

Really? I thought they were white, kinda like Slavs, no? Buryat-like and living in Europe?

Many hungarian also think that, this is a popular urban legend among hungarians.