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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    I didn't take it personally. I would love to know deep ancestry because I know I'm Irish. I would like to have more ancient genomes but I'm sure that is just a matter of time. I don't know why some people are so adverse to certain populations. I know there is trolling on here but people can't troll you if you are comfortable in your own skin. I don't care what population genetics shows about populations as it is interesting to see what makes up people's ancestry going back to ancient times.
    I am not thinking on you when I said that, I don´t know you enough. i will not focus on any particular person , it´s a widespread thing.

    It was only a coincidence that I mentioned it in your thread.

    It´s your thread and you have said clearly want you wanted to be posted, maybe it was not the best place to express what I think about this issue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    I am not thinking on you when I said that, I don´t know you enough. i will not focus on any particular person , it´s a widespread thing.

    It was only a coincidence that I mentioned it in your thread.
    I didn't think you meant me anyway. If you have been on here long enough you know some people troll people and say derogatory things about certain populations. Also some people will deny certain populations make up their ethnicity. Some people also give incorrect information about populations. This forum allows free reign so you get all sorts of opinions on here but it also allows people to discuss lots of interesting things also.
    The Irish Brigade's battle cry at Fontenoy, "Cuimhnigí ar Luimneach agus ar feall na Sasanaigh," translates to "Remember Limerick and the treachery of the English." After seeing the devastation caused by the Irish Brigade, the Duke of Cumberland reportedly remarked, "God curse the laws that made those men our enemies".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    I didn't think you meant me anyway. If you have been on here long enough you know some people troll people and say derogatory things about certain populations. Also some people will deny certain populations make up their ethnicity. Some people also give incorrect information about populations. This forum allows free reign so you get all sorts of opinions on here but it also allows people to discuss lots of interesting things also.
    I'm not gonna lie I am little adverse to being Irish but if the overwhelming genetic evidence said I was Irish I would accept it. I just think the the averaged modern population spreadsheet makes more mathematical logical sense but it is not perfect because the sample size may not be equal in all the different populations and as far as I know and it is missing whole Demographics like Danish. I till also prefer my Celtic vs Germanic PCA plot over everything.


    Here is the non-average modern for me and obviously both can't be equal distances or equally asymptotic to the truth :

    Target: Kevin_scaled
    Distance: 1.5189% / 0.01518900 | ADC: 1x
    31.8 Norwegian
    26.2 Irish
    24.0 Welsh
    8.6 Belgian
    5.6 Dutch
    3.2 English_Cornwall
    0.6 Orcadian

    Here is the averaged they are significantly different :

    Target: Kevin_scaled
    Distance: 2.6087% / 0.02608687 | ADC: 0.5x
    48.2 Norwegian
    43.6 Dutch
    8.2 Spanish_Soria

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0 View Post
    I will see, I will start from the beginning. I don't know what has happened to Grace or what I have done to get those results, it must have been my subconscious. Maybe a font file ended up next to another file when you downloaded it.
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
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    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Pues sí

    Me equivoqué de archivo de Globlal 25

    Imagino que este sí es el del hilo

    Si no es este así se va a quedar, no me voy a calentar más la cabeza


    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 1.9475% / 0.01947471 | ADC: 1x
    82.8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    17.2 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha

    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 1.8706% / 0.01870555 | ADC: 0.5x
    75.0 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    16.0 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    5.8 Spanish_Soria
    3.2 Spanish_La_Rioja

    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 1.6673% / 0.01667270 | ADC: 0.25x
    57.4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    13.6 French_South
    10.8 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
    9.8 Spanish_La_Rioja
    3.4 Spanish_Soria
    2.0 Basque_Spanish
    1.8 North_Ossetian
    1.2 Datog

    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 1.5437% / 0.01543738
    26.0 Basque_Spanish
    23.2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    18.0 Basque_French
    10.6 Spanish_La_Rioja
    10.2 Spanish_Menorca
    6.8 North_Ossetian
    2.0 Berber_MAR_TIZ
    1.2 Datog
    0.8 Somali
    0.6 Lithuanian_PZ
    0.4 Ket
    0.2 Abkhasian


    Distance to: Gallop_scaled
    0.02008536 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    0.02180489 Spanish_Galicia
    0.02231244 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    0.02269035 Spanish_Andalucia
    0.02312202 Portuguese
    0.02489288 Spanish_Valencia
    0.02490052 Spanish_Menorca
    0.02522834 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
    0.02553041 Spanish_Aragon
    0.02585001 Spanish_Cataluna
    0.02603826 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
    0.02618920 Spanish_Eivissa
    0.02618944 Spanish_Alacant
    0.02619990 Spanish_Pirineu
    0.02712183 Spanish_Lleida
    0.02722912 Spanish_Baleares
    0.02793500 Spanish_Cantabria
    0.02795867 Spanish_Extremadura
    0.02815267 Spanish_Murcia
    0.02842729 Spanish_Castello
    0.02852608 Spanish_Barcelones
    0.02860053 Spanish_Mallorca
    0.02901544 Spanish_Penedes
    0.02905788 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
    0.02921315 Spanish_Girona
    0.02979956 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
    0.03252786 Spanish_Navarra
    0.03269467 French_South
    0.03397176 Spanish_Asturias
    0.03729018 French_Auvergne
    0.03861764 French_Provence
    0.03877040 Spanish_Soria
    0.03903458 Spanish_La_Rioja
    0.03951440 French_Occitanie
    0.03973633 Swiss_French
    0.04011372 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.04019499 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    0.04111952 Spanish_Canarias
    0.04190514 Basque_French
    0.04475970 Italian_Veneto
    0.04529373 Basque_Spanish
    0.04543565 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    0.04545366 Italian_Liguria
    0.04552132 Italian_Bergamo
    0.04680083 Italian_Lombardy
    0.04986042 Swiss_German
    0.04991628 Italian_Northeast
    0.05056169 French_Paris
    0.05088488 French_Corsica
    0.05092957 Italian_Piedmont
    0.05210484 Swiss_Italian
    0.05326481 French_Alsace
    0.05333265 French_Nord
    0.05636289 Belgian
    0.05726834 Italian_Tuscany

    Until the color change.

    Cuando mi subconsciente actúa por sí mismo es que hay gato encerrado y algo hay por ahí LOL
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
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    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 0.8926% / 0.00892567

    25.8 Basque_Spanish
    20.0 Sardinian
    18.2 Irish
    6.6 Portuguese
    6.4 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
    5.6 French_South
    5.2 Berber_MAR_TIZ
    5.0 North_Ossetian
    1.8 Polish
    1.4 Abkhasian
    1.4 Dutch
    1.4 Somali_Kenya

    Since I'm on the go.

    And these results with another file, so it would take a font with 10,000 samples or more even. We can be 40 years dizzy with the partridge
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    I'm not gonna lie I am little adverse to being Irish but if the overwhelming genetic evidence said I was Irish I would accept it. I just think the the averaged modern population spreadsheet makes more mathematical logical sense but it is not perfect because the sample size may not be equal in all the different populations and as far as I know and it is missing whole Demographics like Danish. I till also prefer my Celtic vs Germanic PCA plot over everything.


    Here is the non-average modern for me and obviously both can't be equal distances or equally asymptotic to the truth :

    Target: Kevin_scaled
    Distance: 1.5189% / 0.01518900 | ADC: 1x
    31.8 Norwegian
    26.2 Irish
    24.0 Welsh
    8.6 Belgian
    5.6 Dutch
    3.2 English_Cornwall
    0.6 Orcadian

    Here is the averaged they are significantly different :

    Target: Kevin_scaled
    Distance: 2.6087% / 0.02608687 | ADC: 0.5x
    48.2 Norwegian
    43.6 Dutch
    8.2 Spanish_Soria
    Yes there needs to be bigger numbers for some populations as small samples can skew results. Yes it would be great to have Danish. I hope some samples become available. No problems with you being adverse to having Irish ancestry but if you do have that ancestry (or any other) it is strange you don't accept it. You only have partial Irish ancestry anyway but whatever issues you have with Irish you shouldn't be derogatory about other people's nationality. You're not better than anyone else no matter what your ethnicity. Anyway I'll leave it at that. You seem to have laid off a bit with that lately.
    The Irish Brigade's battle cry at Fontenoy, "Cuimhnigí ar Luimneach agus ar feall na Sasanaigh," translates to "Remember Limerick and the treachery of the English." After seeing the devastation caused by the Irish Brigade, the Duke of Cumberland reportedly remarked, "God curse the laws that made those men our enemies".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    Pues sí

    Me equivoqué de archivo de Globlal 25

    Imagino que este sí es el del hilo

    Si no es este así se va a quedar, no me voy a calentar más la cabeza


    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 1.9475% / 0.01947471 | ADC: 1x
    82.8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    17.2 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha

    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 1.8706% / 0.01870555 | ADC: 0.5x
    75.0 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    16.0 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    5.8 Spanish_Soria
    3.2 Spanish_La_Rioja

    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 1.6673% / 0.01667270 | ADC: 0.25x
    57.4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    13.6 French_South
    10.8 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
    9.8 Spanish_La_Rioja
    3.4 Spanish_Soria
    2.0 Basque_Spanish
    1.8 North_Ossetian
    1.2 Datog

    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 1.5437% / 0.01543738
    26.0 Basque_Spanish
    23.2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    18.0 Basque_French
    10.6 Spanish_La_Rioja
    10.2 Spanish_Menorca
    6.8 North_Ossetian
    2.0 Berber_MAR_TIZ
    1.2 Datog
    0.8 Somali
    0.6 Lithuanian_PZ
    0.4 Ket
    0.2 Abkhasian


    Distance to: Gallop_scaled
    0.02008536 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    0.02180489 Spanish_Galicia
    0.02231244 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    0.02269035 Spanish_Andalucia
    0.02312202 Portuguese
    0.02489288 Spanish_Valencia
    0.02490052 Spanish_Menorca
    0.02522834 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
    0.02553041 Spanish_Aragon
    0.02585001 Spanish_Cataluna
    0.02603826 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
    0.02618920 Spanish_Eivissa
    0.02618944 Spanish_Alacant
    0.02619990 Spanish_Pirineu
    0.02712183 Spanish_Lleida
    0.02722912 Spanish_Baleares
    0.02793500 Spanish_Cantabria
    0.02795867 Spanish_Extremadura
    0.02815267 Spanish_Murcia
    0.02842729 Spanish_Castello
    0.02852608 Spanish_Barcelones
    0.02860053 Spanish_Mallorca
    0.02901544 Spanish_Penedes
    0.02905788 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
    0.02921315 Spanish_Girona
    0.02979956 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
    0.03252786 Spanish_Navarra
    0.03269467 French_South
    0.03397176 Spanish_Asturias
    0.03729018 French_Auvergne
    0.03861764 French_Provence
    0.03877040 Spanish_Soria
    0.03903458 Spanish_La_Rioja
    0.03951440 French_Occitanie
    0.03973633 Swiss_French
    0.04011372 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.04019499 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    0.04111952 Spanish_Canarias
    0.04190514 Basque_French
    0.04475970 Italian_Veneto
    0.04529373 Basque_Spanish
    0.04543565 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    0.04545366 Italian_Liguria
    0.04552132 Italian_Bergamo
    0.04680083 Italian_Lombardy
    0.04986042 Swiss_German
    0.04991628 Italian_Northeast
    0.05056169 French_Paris
    0.05088488 French_Corsica
    0.05092957 Italian_Piedmont
    0.05210484 Swiss_Italian
    0.05326481 French_Alsace
    0.05333265 French_Nord
    0.05636289 Belgian
    0.05726834 Italian_Tuscany

    Until the color change.

    Cuando mi subconsciente actúa por sí mismo es que hay gato encerrado y algo hay por ahí LOL
    Great. Those distances look good. It's always an indication that something is wrong if the distances are so large. Thanks for posting your results.
    The Irish Brigade's battle cry at Fontenoy, "Cuimhnigí ar Luimneach agus ar feall na Sasanaigh," translates to "Remember Limerick and the treachery of the English." After seeing the devastation caused by the Irish Brigade, the Duke of Cumberland reportedly remarked, "God curse the laws that made those men our enemies".


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    Distance: 1.6860% / 0.01686040
    26.4 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    20.2 Italian_Lombardy
    13.8 Spanish_Asturias
    13.0 Greek_Thrace
    11.8 Shetlandic
    8.6 Italian_Bergamo
    4.6 Sardinian
    1.0 English_Cornwall
    0.6 Igorot

    0.02609388 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
    0.02669493 Spanish_Barcelones
    0.02773651 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.02943306 Spanish_Lleida
    0.03004642 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
    0.03009889 Spanish_Mallorca
    0.03025102 Italian_Bergamo
    0.03059421 Spanish_Aragon
    0.03067901 French_Auvergne
    0.03087552 Spanish_Penedes
    0.03103724 Spanish_Valencia
    0.03106019 Spanish_Eivissa
    0.03121372 Spanish_Baleares
    0.03122473 Spanish_Girona
    0.03124159 Italian_Lombardy
    0.03149856 Spanish_Menorca
    0.03171026 French_Provence
    0.03176389 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
    0.03213324 Spanish_Cataluna
    0.03221976 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
    0.03275819 Spanish_Pirineu
    0.03283374 French_Occitanie
    0.03287426 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    0.03343845 Spanish_Cantabria
    0.03386100 Spanish_Asturias
    0.03431880 Swiss_French
    0.03440156 Italian_Veneto
    0.03445031 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    0.03492617 Italian_Northeast
    0.03545259 Spanish_Castello
    0.03582815 Spanish_Alacant
    0.03599023 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    0.03615552 Spanish_Andalucia
    0.03633658 Spanish_Navarra
    0.03670853 Italian_Liguria
    0.03718227 French_South
    0.03753101 Spanish_Galicia
    0.03773578 Spanish_Murcia
    0.03799209 Swiss_German
    0.03817478 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    0.03995939 Portuguese
    0.04159003 French_Alsace
    0.04176617 Italian_Piedmont
    0.04264290 French_Paris
    0.04339913 Basque_French
    0.04347747 Spanish_Extremadura
    0.04348985 French_Nord
    0.04504332 Swiss_Italian
    0.04676368 Belgian
    0.04752087 French_Corsica


    Father:
    28.4 English_Cornwall
    22.0 Irish
    18.8 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    17.2 Spanish_Asturias
    9.2 Shetlandic
    2.0 Greek_Thrace
    1.6 Kalash
    0.4 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh
    0.2 Lebbo
    0.2 Mlabri

    0.02863868 French_Brittany
    0.02879886 Belgian
    0.02890548 English_Cornwall
    0.03046532 French_Nord
    0.03166753 Welsh
    0.03201386 English
    0.03203316 French_Paris
    0.03290922 Swiss_German
    0.03338514 French_Alsace
    0.03379373 Scottish
    0.03408864 Orcadian
    0.03517645 Irish
    0.03520982 French_Occitanie
    0.03851242 Dutch
    0.03910599 German
    0.03933014 Shetlandic
    0.03984343 French_Auvergne
    0.04529234 Icelandic
    0.04534684 Swiss_French
    0.04600848 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    0.04720740 Norwegian
    0.04769208 Spanish_Barcelones
    0.04805956 French_Provence
    0.04850485 Austrian
    0.04941000 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    0.04962499 Spanish_Penedes
    0.05159598 French_South
    0.05162949 Spanish_Lleida
    0.05206896 Spanish_Girona
    0.05215767 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
    0.05235597 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
    0.05236292 Basque_French
    0.05266020 Swedish
    0.05285079 German_East
    0.05291492 Spanish_Cantabria
    0.05306062 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
    0.05349014 Spanish_Asturias
    0.05364875 Spanish_Cataluna
    0.05375557 Spanish_Navarra
    0.05377105 Spanish_Aragon
    0.05395781 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
    0.05444067 Spanish_Valencia
    0.05450057 Spanish_Mallorca
    0.05497741 Spanish_Pirineu
    0.05667604 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    0.05677557 Spanish_Alacant
    0.05721334 Spanish_Eivissa
    0.05734377 Spanish_Castello
    0.05751014 Hungarian
    0.05759684 Spanish_Galicia



    Mother:
    Distance: 2.0976% / 0.02097574
    29.4 Sardinian
    27.6 Greek_Thrace
    23.4 Italian_Lombardy
    19.6 Spanish_Pais_Vasco

    0.03261063 Italian_Lombardy
    0.03450613 Italian_Bergamo
    0.03760000 French_Corsica
    0.04097807 Spanish_Menorca
    0.04152536 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.04161598 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
    0.04320562 Spanish_Baleares
    0.04325985 Spanish_Eivissa
    0.04333024 Italian_Piedmont
    0.04337742 Italian_Veneto
    0.04376790 Italian_Liguria
    0.04387011 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    0.04538461 Spanish_Valencia
    0.04554990 Spanish_Andalucia
    0.04618132 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
    0.04655279 Spanish_Barcelones
    0.04659165 Spanish_Mallorca
    0.04675050 Spanish_Pirineu
    0.04725483 Spanish_Aragon
    0.04740506 Spanish_Alacant
    0.04766341 Spanish_Lleida
    0.04782257 Spanish_Cantabria
    0.04807637 Spanish_Murcia
    0.04846812 Spanish_Girona
    0.04854816 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
    0.04867018 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
    0.04868318 Italian_Tuscany
    0.04936122 Spanish_Navarra
    0.04957968 Spanish_Castello
    0.05029330 Spanish_Galicia
    0.05047772 Spanish_Penedes
    0.05057675 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    0.05062539 Spanish_Cataluna
    0.05126783 Portuguese
    0.05134588 Swiss_Italian
    0.05180240 Spanish_Extremadura
    0.05223106 Italian_Northeast
    0.05278705 Spanish_Asturias
    0.05318677 French_Provence
    0.05415114 Italian_Marche
    0.05435807 Spanish_La_Rioja
    0.05514191 Italian_Lazio
    0.05565673 French_South
    0.05583785 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    0.05598304 Italian_Umbria
    0.05600807 Greek_Thessaly
    0.05691005 French_Auvergne
    0.05738473 Albanian
    0.05738674 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    0.05870902 Swiss_French

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    With R

    [1] "distance%=1.4527"

    Tim_G_scaled

    Orcadian,79.2
    Scottish,8.6
    Icelandic,4.8
    Irish,3.8
    English_Cornwall,2
    Finnish_East,0.4
    Welsh,0.4
    Basque_Spanish,0.2
    Dutch,0.2
    Finnish,0.2
    Zapotec,0.2


    With Vahaduo

    Target: Tim_G_scaled
    Distance: 1.3601% / 0.01360142
    78.2 Orcadian
    18.8 Icelandic
    2.0 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    0.8 Igorot
    0.2 Ju_hoan_North
    23andMe
    MDLP K23B: Dutch + German-Volga + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.880189
    Eurogenes K13:Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.292434
    Dodecad v3:CEU + CEU + German + Orkney @ 1.508807
    Harappaworld:n-european + n-european + orcadian + utahn-white @ 1.186455
    puntDNAL K12 modern:Czech + Dutch_South + English_South + English_South @ 1.900828

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