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    Quote Originally Posted by meson View Post
    I would not degrade white females by calling them words like that. Its a liberal world we live in, its up-to the child what he chooses to identify as when he/she grows up but imagine someone who celebrates eid e nowroz and is called Reza, would he really be considered white ?

    And yes that tribal traditions are like that. I did not make them, I am just a guy.
    I didn't use white at all in this conversation. I said Muslims.
    Anyway, let's not continue this. People who know me are aware that I'm against Islam (particularly outside the Muslim world, we Christians unlike Muslims don't believe in forced conversions so we know we won't change their hearts by force).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    I didn't use white at all in this conversation. I said Muslims.
    Anyway, let's not continue this. People who know me are aware that I'm against Islam (particularly outside the Muslim world, we Christians unlike Muslims don't believe in forced conversions so we know we won't change their hearts by force).
    off-course, peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    You gotta be kidding. They are American mutts and English speakers. And you people wonder why fucking Muslims are so disliked. You go everywhere and just take women and use them as wombs to produce new Muslims. Sorry, dude, but fuck that shit, stay where your culture is supposed to be. Nobody cares if it's a shithole economically.
    I would exclude Iranians from this because we don't just "take women to produce new muslims" nor do we force anyone to convert to islam lol. Though, I and my family still do consider ourselves as Iranians since we celebrate all Iranian holidays and festivals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    That's ridiculous bullshit. Only Muslims consider babies Muslims by default.
    So basically one can be half black or Filipino or Mexican Amerindian and still remain a "tribal Azeri Turk"? Lol. I know you guys obviously prefer white pussy but that logic should be applied to all.
    That's not true for many. My father didn't even talked Turkish or Iranian at home and neither is he muslim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meson View Post
    I am sorry but I disagree. Let alone liberalism, Azeris of Iran are traditionally more fanatic shias then even Persians. We started Kizilbas Nezam not Persians. We converted whole empire population to Shiite. We massacred Sunni Turkish armies multiple times. Even in modern times Half of the anti Shah revolutionary Mullahs were Azeris and even today its same. Turk in Iran means Iranian federation nationalist like Sattar Khan and hardcore Shia like Khamenei.

    Who in their proper senses would honestly believe that massively Shiite population of Iranian Azerbaijan would join up with traditional enemy Sunni Anatolians or even Soviet style secular state of Republic Azerbaijan ? We have had bloody history with Ottoman Turks who historically have held some massive hatred towards us. They tried to burn Tabriz (failed), they caused famine in Azerbaijan which killed 2 million Azeri Turks. People do not forget that easily. With neo ottoman islamism returning to Istanbul and keeping Iraqi example in mind, I think there are rather higher chances of 70-75 % Shia Republic Azerbaijan becoming a massively allied state to Iran in future which is more natural. No one would have predicted secular to core Iraq's future during Baathist Saddam's rule either but see what happened in name of faith.

    Edit: Because I am not a bigot so I bear no ill feeling towards Turkish people. Lovely guys.
    I was talking about Turkism, Seperation-Movements and Autonomy-movements , not about average population.

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    Iranian persian possibly from tehran(have my reasons to assume that), with roots likely from eastern iran:




    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 28.77
    2 Gedrosia 26.35
    3 Southwest_Asian 11.5
    4 North_European 11.03
    5 South_Asian 9.5
    6 Atlantic_Med 6.07
    7 East_Asian 2.95
    8 Siberian 2.54
    9 Northwest_African 0.93
    10 Sub_Saharan 0.35

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 9.31
    2 Iranians (Behar) 12.22
    3 Iranian (Dodecad) 13.08
    4 Kurd (Dodecad) 14.5
    5 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 15.8
    6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 17.33
    7 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 20.15
    8 Turks (Behar) 20.7
    9 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 21.74
    10 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.32
    11 Lezgins (Behar) 24.2
    12 Lebanese (Behar) 25.4
    13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 25.56
    14 Syrians (Behar) 26.06
    15 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 26.2
    16 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 26.36
    17 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 26.42
    18 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 26.88
    19 Assyrian (Dodecad) 26.99
    20 Pathan (HGDP) 27.73

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 55% Lebanese (Behar) + 45% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.14
    2 60.9% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 39.1% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.18
    3 57.6% Turks (Behar) + 42.4% Pathan (HGDP) @ 5.28
    4 52.3% Lebanese (Behar) + 47.7% Pathan (HGDP) @ 5.41
    5 63.9% Turks (Behar) + 36.1% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 5.45
    6 61.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 38.4% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 5.49
    7 50.3% Druze (HGDP) + 49.7% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.55
    8 55.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 44.3% Pathan (HGDP) @ 5.63
    9 64.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 35.4% Druze (HGDP) @ 5.69
    10 54.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 45.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 5.76
    11 65.8% Turks (Behar) + 34.2% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 5.8
    12 52.4% Pathan (HGDP) + 47.6% Druze (HGDP) @ 5.89
    13 61.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 38.9% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 5.92
    14 60.4% Turks (Behar) + 39.6% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.95
    15 69% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 31% Samaritians (Behar) @ 6.01
    16 54% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 46% Burusho (HGDP) @ 6.1
    17 64.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 35.3% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 6.13
    18 61% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 39% Syrians (Behar) @ 6.13
    19 60.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 39.6% Lebanese (Behar) @ 6.25
    20 53.9% Pathan (HGDP) + 46.1% Cypriots (Behar) @ 6.33

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    Target: Turk_Romania
    Distance: 1.1156% / 1.11562187 | ADC: 0.25x
    70.8 Gagauz
    11.4 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    10.6 Macedonian
    3.0 Brahui
    1.6 Bashkir
    1.4 Tajiks
    1.2 Italy_FriuliVG


    Distance to: Turk_Romania
    6.29922217 Gagauz
    7.49647250 Pomak
    8.17351210 Macedonian
    9.68486964 Albanian_Kosovo
    9.97712383 Albanian_North
    10.41262215 Bulgarian
    10.63187190 Romanians
    11.97482776 Bulgarians
    13.33178293 Italy_FriuliVG
    13.95534306 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain

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    Yörüks:

    Gedrosian: 15.01
    Siberian: 7.43
    Northwest_African: 2.66
    Southeast_Asian: 0.00
    Atlantic_Med: 11.44
    North_European: 10.96
    South_Asian 1.73
    East_African 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 8.43
    East_Asian: 8.92
    Caucasian: 33.33
    SSA: 0.18

    Distance to: Yoruk
    5.34286440 Turk_Southwest
    6.40164041 Turk_Northwest
    7.00106420 Turk_South
    7.32684107 Turk_Anatolia
    8.11559610 Turk_Central_West
    8.12193327 Turk_West_BlackSea
    8.17934594 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    10.17355395 Turk_Central_East
    10.97013674 Turk_Southeast
    11.89968907 Azerbaijani
    12.30317032 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    13.36426204 Azerbaijani_Iran
    13.57236899 Turkmen_Iran
    13.68058844 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
    16.09788185 Iran_Khorasan
    16.26494082 Turkmens
    16.51225908 Nogais
    16.87101953 Turk_East
    16.92049349 Turkmen_Iraq
    17.00806573 Kurd_Kurmanji
    17.22603263 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    17.57841859 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
    17.65871456 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    17.86289730 Zaza
    18.41464634 Kurd_Sorani

    Target: Yoruk
    Distance: 1.5730% / 1.57298468 | ADC: 0.25x
    64.8 Turk_Southwest
    19.2 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    9.2 Hazara
    3.4 Nogais
    2.2 Turkmens
    1.0 Mozabite
    0.2 Japanese

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    @Kyp, Azerbaijanis from the Gence-Qazax economic region (basically NW Az) would be interesting to see. As well as the Türk minority in Kvemo-Kartli, Southern Georgia.

    My guess is they're more Anatolian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    @Kyp, Azerbaijanis from the Gence-Qazax economic region (basically NW Az) would be interesting to see. As well as the Türk minority in Kvemo-Kartli, Southern Georgia.

    My guess is they're more Anatolian.
    I think they are related to Azeris from Kars. They are indeed a bit more Anatolian.

    Distance to: Turk_Kars
    0.72746134 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    2.43622659 Azerbaijani
    3.03491351 Azerbaijani_Iran
    4.35572038 Turk_Southeast
    5.68211228 Turk_Central_East
    6.32951025 Zaza
    6.39086066 Kurd_Kurmanji
    6.80994126 Turk_South
    6.90107963 Turk_East
    7.05124812 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    7.30754405 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    7.54833094 Turkmen_Iraq
    7.93154462 Turk_Anatolia
    8.21931262 Turk_Central_West
    8.49719954 Kurd_Sorani
    10.50395164 Iranian
    10.57707899 Turk_West_BlackSea
    10.60891135 Kurds
    10.62671163 Kurd
    10.73638207 Lur_Iran
    10.88688201 Turk_Southwest
    10.91330381 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    10.95641365 Uzbekistan_Jews
    11.11578607 Armenian_East
    11.70188874 Iranian_Fars


    Target: Turk_Kars
    Distance: 0.6754% / 0.67536594 | ADC: 0.25x
    67.6 Azerbaijani
    12.4 Azerbaijani_Iran
    12.2 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    7.4 Georgian_Adjara
    0.2 Georgian_Mingrelian

    0.2 JPT30

    They are also more Taurid/Anatolid/Armenoid phenotypically.
    Last edited by Kyp; 03-30-2020 at 01:41 PM.

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