Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Resuts

[Nurzat]

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Thanks, she is not from Wallachia though. I'll add to the other table.

I've replaced the initial RO and MD in the source with the unmixed_average on your sheets:

Romania_Muntenia,21.74,24.52,16.95,11.73,19.26,2.3 1,0.82,0.55,1,0.45,0.34,0.26,0.07
Romania_Oltenia,23.83,25.02,17.91,10.68,17.72,1.81 ,0.67,0.85,0.60,0.40,0.37,0.09,0.06
Moldavia,23.83,28.02,16.76,9.92,15.75,1.88,0.55,0. 59,1.39,0.58,0.45,0.15,0.12


based on the results posted by Leto:

Distance to: seya
3.09122953 Moldavia
4.17001199 Bulgarian_Sofia
4.49553111 Bulgarian_Pleven
4.64296687 Serbian_new
4.74205652 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
4.74621955 Serb_Croatia
5.09506669 Montenegrin
5.34985047 Romania_Oltenia
5.58154101 Bosniak_Sandzak
5.73466651 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
5.77171105 Macedonian
5.89811834 Romania_Muntenia


then, in spite of my low Baltic (31%) I am still modeled as half Ukrainian with the 3 (RO_Olt, RO_Mun, MD) in the source, nothing removed from source, I mean (Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Belgorod + South_Polish + Estonian + Southeast_English is 54.8):

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 0.3391% / 0.33906266
45.6 Ukrainian
21.4 Greek_Northern-Thrace
6.2 Sardinian
4.6 French_Basque
4.2 Tabassaran
3.6 Balkar
3.0 Ukrainian_Belgorod
2.8 South_Polish
2.0 Estonian
1.8 Bulgarian_Ruse
1.4 Georgian_imereti
1.4 Southeast_English

[Nurzat]

all three from the spreadsheet - they don't seem to get any strong one population, it's a diarrhea of a result for each:


this guy who has more Baltic than me (almost 34%) gets modeled like this:

Target: BT
Distance: 0.3666% / 0.36659857
27.2 Macedonian_Central
17.8 Belorussian
14.6 Bulgarian_Gabrovo
10.0 Macedonian_Southwest
8.8 Latvian
6.0 Cossacks_Kuban
4.8 Erzya
2.4 Russian_Smolensk
2.0 Sardinian
1.6 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
1.4 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
1.0 South_Polish

others:

Target: NT
Distance: 0.3426% / 0.34264928
22.0 Greek_Western-Macedonia
19.6 Bulgarian_Northwest
13.4 Cossacks_Kuban
9.8 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
6.8 Belorussian
6.0 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
5.6 Laz
5.2 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
3.4 Macedonian_Greece
3.0 Latvian
1.2 North_Ossetian
1.0 Norwegian


Target: VS
Distance: 0.1375% / 0.13753587
14.4 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
11.2 Cossacks_Kuban
10.4 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
6.2 Estonian
5.8 Greek_Thessaloniki
5.6 Bulgarian_Ruse
5.2 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
5.0 Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
4.6 Macedonian_Central
4.2 Latvian
4.0 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
3.6 Sardinian
3.2 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
3.2 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
2.4 Pomak_Xanthi
2.2 Serb_North-Macedonia
2.0 Southwest_Finnish
1.4 Selkup
1.0 Greek_Central-Macedonia

[Ion Basescul]

I've replaced the initial RO and MD in the source with the unmixed_average on your sheets:

Romania_Muntenia,21.74,24.52,16.95,11.73,19.26,2.3 1,0.82,0.55,1,0.45,0.34,0.26,0.07
Romania_Oltenia,23.83,25.02,17.91,10.68,17.72,1.81 ,0.67,0.85,0.60,0.40,0.37,0.09,0.06
Moldavia,23.83,28.02,16.76,9.92,15.75,1.88,0.55,0. 59,1.39,0.58,0.45,0.15,0.12


based on the results posted by Leto:

Distance to: seya
3.09122953 Moldavia
4.17001199 Bulgarian_Sofia
4.49553111 Bulgarian_Pleven
4.64296687 Serbian_new
4.74205652 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
4.74621955 Serb_Croatia
5.09506669 Montenegrin
5.34985047 Romania_Oltenia
5.58154101 Bosniak_Sandzak
5.73466651 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
5.77171105 Macedonian
5.89811834 Romania_Muntenia


then, in spite of my low Baltic (31%) I am still modeled as half Ukrainian with the 3 (RO_Olt, RO_Mun, MD) in the source, nothing removed from source, I mean (Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Belgorod + South_Polish + Estonian + Southeast_English is 54.8):

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 0.3391% / 0.33906266
45.6 Ukrainian
21.4 Greek_Northern-Thrace
6.2 Sardinian
4.6 French_Basque
4.2 Tabassaran
3.6 Balkar
3.0 Ukrainian_Belgorod
2.8 South_Polish
2.0 Estonian
1.8 Bulgarian_Ruse
1.4 Georgian_imereti
1.4 Southeast_English

See the guys Boychuk and Tsurkan Lazareva. They are allegedly Rusyns/Hutsuls, so maybe you'll get modelled better with them as your Ukrainian side.

[Ion Basescul]

To make it easier for you, the average of them two:
Rusyn_Ukraine,28.11,36.96,13.035,5.08,12.055,1.05, 0,0,2.695,0.52,0,0,0.48

[Aspirin]

See the guys Boychuk and Tsurkan Lazareva. They are allegedly Rusyns/Hutsuls, so maybe you'll get modelled better with them as your Ukrainian side.

Tsurkan is not Rusyn, this is for sure. But Boychuk yes, is a high probability to be from Carpathian region.

[Ion Basescul]

Tsurkan is not Rusyn, this is for sure. But Boychuk yes, is a high probability to be from Carpathian region.

I thought we stopped at her being very similar to a Rusyn, despite her paternal family name. Perhaps just half West Ukrainian then or something like that.

[Nurzat]

See the guys Boychuk and Tsurkan Lazareva. They are allegedly Rusyns/Hutsuls, so maybe you'll get modelled better with them as your Ukrainian side.

I am ok with how this models me, it seems quite accurate - it keeps my Ukrainian half and for the Romanian half it breaks it down into Balkanic, Caucasian and Sardinian, sounds right.

when I add Boiciuc (funnily my dad's paternal line is of Boyko origin, our village is mixed Hutsul/Rusyn/Boyko, told you Germans were majority until WW1 and some Gorals got lost in the village too over time, including my dad's mom's mom):

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 0.3510% / 0.35103336
41.4 Ukrainian
17.2 Greek_Northern-Thrace
11.6 Boiciuc
6.2 Sardinian
5.2 French_Basque
5.2 Ukrainian_Belgorod
3.8 Tabassaran
3.0 Georgian_imereti
2.6 Balkar
1.4 South_Polish

[Ion Basescul]

I am ok with how this models me, it seems quite accurate - it keeps my Ukrainian half and for the Romanian half it breaks it down into Balkanic, Caucasian and Sardinian, sounds right.

when I add Boiciuc (funnily my dad's paternal line is of Boyko origin, our village is mixed Hutsul/Rusyn/Boyko, told you Germans were majority until WW1 and some Gorals got lost in the village too over time, including my dad's mom's mom):

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 0.3510% / 0.35103336
41.4 Ukrainian
17.2 Greek_Northern-Thrace
11.6 Boiciuc
6.2 Sardinian
5.2 French_Basque
5.2 Ukrainian_Belgorod
3.8 Tabassaran
3.0 Georgian_imereti
2.6 Balkar
1.4 South_Polish

Your Romanian side is not accurate at all. It looks Aromanian/Greek. It's very South-shifted for Wallachia, let alone for Vaslui.

Your Vaslui genes are just too strong and also we need more samples.

Target: Nurzat_1/2Vaslui_1/2Ukrainian
Distance: 382.9294% / 3.82929376
73.2 Romania_Vaslui_average
26.8 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.0 Rusyn_Ukraine
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Belgorod

Romania_Vaslui_average,25.96,27.62,16.23,9.46,15.9 0,1.49,0.18,0.09,2.01,0.49,0.23,0.12,0.24

[Aspirin]

I thought we stopped at her being very similar to a Rusyn, despite her paternal family name. Perhaps just half West Ukrainian then or something like that.

Yes, but she, bassed on her surname is not Rusyn, she seem to be from Chernivtsi, Odessa or Nikolaev oblast.

https://ridni.org/karta/%D0%A6%D1%83...BA%D0%B0%D0%BD

[Nurzat]

Your Romanian side is not accurate at all. It looks Aromanian/Greek. It's very South-shifted for Wallachia, let alone for Vaslui.

Your Vaslui genes are just too strong and also we need more samples.

Target: Nurzat_1/2Vaslui_1/2Ukrainian
Distance: 382.9294% / 3.82929376
73.2 Romania_Vaslui_average
26.8 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.0 Rusyn_Ukraine
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Belgorod

Romania_Vaslui_average,25.96,27.62,16.23,9.46,15.9 0,1.49,0.18,0.09,2.01,0.49,0.23,0.12,0.24

I've noticed all Romanians get modeled on K13 with Vlach-like populations (northern Greece, Macedonia) and for the Slavic-Vlach mix they get northwest Bulgaria, Bulgaria Dupnitsa, like that. in the end I think it reads it well as Vlach-East Slavic more recent mix than the ones in the West Balkans.

also, some of my Ukrainian % on this is certainly from the northeast Romanian side, and this balances the Vlach %.