Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Resuts

[Leto]

It's not inflated, it's representative for Croats of Zagreb who were sampled. K13 updated has Czech and Slovak reference, even Czech_Moravian was made by Andre so you won't get Croatian, don't worry

Are the city of Zagreb and the county really full of lighter people? I mean that elevated Baltic should somehow manifest itself in the looks, shouldn't it?

[Dušan]

I think real average Serbian position is little more northern and wester, something like Aye's dad position.


Serbs from Croatia (Krajina) and Bosnia score higher Baltic than Serbs from Serbia from what I have seen.

These are top 19 Serbs by Baltic score from what I know, except recorder with 36.43 who is from Serbia all others are from BiH and Krajina/Croatia. Except Vulićević from Šabac I have never seen Serb from Serbia with over 33% Baltic.

1. Serb from Šabac, Western Serbia (surname Vulićević) - 36.43
2. Serb from Banija - 36.21
3. Serb from Lika - 35.59
4. Serbian woman from Herzegovina - 35.53
5. Dalmatian Serb from Skradin area (surname Grulović) - 35.12
6. Serb mix of Banija and East Bosnia - 35.05
7. Serb from Dubica - 34.97
8. Serb from Banija, from Glina (surname Došen) - 34.93
9. Serb from Banija (surname Čavić) - 34.66
10. Serb from Western Bosnia, from Bosansko Grahovo (surname Koščica) - 34.63
11. Serbian woman from East Bosnia - 34.53
12. Serb from Lika (surname Zubović) - 34.46
13. Serbian woman from Western Bosnia (Kozara) - 34.4
14. Serb from Lika - 34.14
15. Serbian woman from Herzegovina - 34.12
16. Serb from Lika - 34.08
17. Serb from Lika - 33.99
18. Dušan - 33.79
19. Serb from Banija - 33.74

You are focused on Baltic score, never count all results.

This is average from Serbs from Croatia.
Counted me, Decius, HungryLion, AyeFather, Decius, Krtinić and lot of my matches from Gedmatch. Total 18 samples

Serb_Krajina
North Atlantic 24.48,
Baltic 30.59,
West Med 17.36,
West Asia 8.35,
East Med 15.01,
Red Sea 1.76,
South Asia 0.47,
East Asia 0.16,
Siberian 0.88,
Amerindian 0.44,
Oceanian 0.41,
Notheast African 0.03,
sub-Saharan 0.03

Not different from general Serbian average.

[Ion Basescul]

I think there is some misunderstanding between us.
New Serbian average is average for ethnic Serbs, not for Serbia as a country with all ethnic minorities - Hungarians, Roma, Sandzak Bosniaks, Albanians etc.

Our new average is a final average result of several tens of Serb results. It is transparent and fair.

No, this is what I meant. Bosniaks and Hugarians would pull the average even further North.
I have full Serbians with 4gp, locations and surnames on both 23andme and MyHeritage. Same applies for Croats.
And I can roughly estimate how those Serbs would score, probably in the mid 20s for Atlantic and Baltic. That's why I was saying that the old average is probably better for Serbs from the whole country.

My 4gp Serbs

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My 4gp Croats

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Now tell me guys, most of those Serbians from the K15 map, are they more similar to my Serbs or Croats?
I would guess they are like 40%+ East Euro Croats, where East Euro pulls them up and enough NW Euro too, which pulls them to the left.

[Jana]

Are the city of Zagreb and the county really full of lighter people? I mean that elevated Baltic should somehow manifest itself in the looks, shouldn't it?

Zagreb is very mixed (Croats from all regions), but yes you can find lot of let's say German or Polish looking people there.
Real natives of the city who are a minority can be mixed with Germans, Hungarians, Czechs or Jews.

Rural population around Zagreb are typical NW Croats.

[Pribislav]

You are focused on Baltic score, never count all results.

This is average from Serbs from Croatia.
Counted me, Decius, HungryLion, AyeFather, Decius, Krtinić and lot of my matches from Gedmatch. Total 18 samples

Serb_Krajina
North Atlantic 24.48,
Baltic 30.59,
West Med 17.36,
West Asia 8.35,
East Med 15.01,
Red Sea 1.76,
South Asia 0.47,
East Asia 0.16,
Siberian 0.88,
Amerindian 0.44,
Oceanian 0.41,
Notheast African 0.03,
sub-Saharan 0.03

Not different from general Serbian average.

I have many Krajina Serb kits who are not counted there. For example CommonSense posted Milković Krajina Serb with 36.21% Baltic, and I had already his kit in my conputer unconnected with CS. Or for example Grulović with 35.28 Baltic posted by vtbnekhio is also not counted.

[Jana]

I have many Krajina Serb kits who are not counted there. For example CommonSense posted Milković Krajina Serb with 36.21% Baltic, and I had already had hus kit in my conputer unconnected with CS. Or for example Grulović with 35.28 Baltic posted by vtbnekhio is also not counted.

How is Milković a Serb, you spoke with him? I wrote before Milković is common Lika Croat surname and I have a collague with same surname.
Same applies to Došen and Zubović ( to add,I don't know any Zubović irl but it's really common name among Croats)

[Dušan]

I have many Krajina Serb kits who are not counted there. For example CommonSense posted Milković Krajina Serb with 36.21% Baltic, and I had already his kit in my conputer unconnected with CS. Or for example Grulović with 35.28 Baltic posted by vtbnekhio is also not counted.

Send me kit numbers to add.

[Dušan]

No, this is what I meant. Bosniaks and Hugarians would pull the average even further North.
I have full Serbians with 4gp, locations and surnames on both 23andme and MyHeritage. Same applies for Croats.
And I can roughly estimate how those Serbs would score, probably in the mid 20s for Atlantic and Baltic. That's why I was saying that the old average is probably better for Serbs from the whole country.

My 4gp Serbs

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My 4gp Croats

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Now tell me guys, most of those Serbians from the K15 map, are they more similar to my Serbs or Croats?
I would guess they are like 40%+ East Euro Croats, where East Euro pulls them up and enough NW Euro too, which pulls them to the left.

You do understand that new Serbian average is still more southern than Croatian one.
What is your problem with our average?

[Jana]

@Ion, I score 47% Eastern European at 23andme, but ''only'' 32% Baltic on K13. So I don't think it translates to gedmatch entirely.

[Leto]

Let's not hijack the thread with Serbian and Croatian results.