So Celts were North Europeans after all?

[Token]

Here are the coordinates, see by yourself. They are from Swiss Iron Age, probably La Tené culture.

MX188_scaled,0.117238,0.129988,0.059962,0.057494,0 .021235,0.019801,-0.001645,0,-0.006545,-0.008383,0.000487,0.000749,-0.002081,-0.021194,0.013165,0.022142,0.004955,0.002534,-0.002388,0.010505,0.007362,0.003586,-0.003328,0.001205,-0.007544
MX190_scaled,0.126344,0.135065,0.059585,0.062016,0 .025235,0.030399,0.007285,0.008769,-0.008795,-0.002734,-0.009419,0,-0.014271,-0.015276,0.013843,0.008088,0.00352,-0.003674,-0.002011,0.007629,0.003868,0.009892,0.008997,-0.00976,-0.002036
MX192_scaled,0.124067,0.120848,0.066373,0.062339,0 .025235,0.023148,-0.008695,0.004384,-0.006954,-0.001276,0.002598,-0.003597,-0.007879,-0.00812,0.019679,0.021082,0.011995,0.003167,0,0.00 2376,0.00836,0.001607,-0.003944,0.002048,0.002634
MX195_scaled,0.122929,0.120848,0.064865,0.065892,0 .02185,0.026216,-0.00094,0.002538,-0.003068,-0.008201,0,0.002248,-0.010555,-0.008945,0.020629,0.024264,0.008996,-0.005194,-0.005782,0.008379,-0.00262,0.00371,0.000986,0.003012,0.001317

MX188,0.0103,0.0128,0.0159,0.0178,0.0069,0.0071,-0.0007,0,-0.0032,-0.0046,0.0003,0.0005,-0.0014,-0.0154,0.0097,0.0167,0.0038,0.002,-0.0019,0.0084,0.0059,0.0029,-0.0027,0.001,-0.0063
MX190,0.0111,0.0133,0.0158,0.0192,0.0082,0.0109,0. 0031,0.0038,-0.0043,-0.0015,-0.0058,0,-0.0096,-0.0111,0.0102,0.0061,0.0027,-0.0029,-0.0016,0.0061,0.0031,0.008,0.0073,-0.0081,-0.0017
MX192,0.0109,0.0119,0.0176,0.0193,0.0082,0.0083,-0.0037,0.0019,-0.0034,-0.0007,0.0016,-0.0024,-0.0053,-0.0059,0.0145,0.0159,0.0092,0.0025,0,0.0019,0.0067 ,0.0013,-0.0032,0.0017,0.0022
MX195,0.0108,0.0119,0.0172,0.0204,0.0071,0.0094,-0.0004,0.0011,-0.0015,-0.0045,0,0.0015,-0.0071,-0.0065,0.0152,0.0183,0.0069,-0.0041,-0.0046,0.0067,-0.0021,0.003,0.0008,0.0025,0.0011

[Token]

They are closest to Scandinavians. Very strange to say the least.

[Ruggery]

Yes and Not, only the British Celts could fall within the range of Northern Europe but the original Celts were from Central Europe.

[Token]

Yes and Not, only the British Celts could fall within the range of Northern Europe but the original Celts were from Central Europe.

Then why are the Central European La Tené samples that i posted closest to North Europeans?

[Nassbean]

How do you explain that their descendents are genetically so different ? I mean la tène culture is quite "recent" ...Maybe the impact of the roman empire and its colonies ?

[Token]

How do you explain that their descendents are genetically so different ? I mean la tène culture is quite "recent" ...Maybe the impact of the roman empire and its colonies ?

This is possible. Maybe it will turn out that we are heavily underestimating the impact of Romans in Europe. But these samples are too northern and i'm still trying to digest the idea. What i'm sure is that La Tené is as Celtic as you can get.

[Token]

Then means the haplogroup U152 It's from Celtic Northern Europeans? Because It was so common in Hallstatt and La Tène culture.

There are U152 subclades that are Italic though.

[Raizen]

Distance to: MX195_scaled
0.04190749 Norwegian
0.04451211 Swedish
0.04555708 Icelandic
0.04763377 Dutch
0.04884175 Orcadian
0.04893182 Irish
0.04942682 Scottish
0.04994741 Shetlandic
0.05119938 Danish
0.05142766 Afrikaner
0.05147107 Welsh
0.05280137 English
0.05292579 German
0.05448067 French_Brittany
0.05449511 Czech
0.05525978 Slovakian
0.05576292 English_Cornwall
0.05713404 German_East
0.05834048 Austrian
0.06034971 Hungarian
0.06178791 Moldovan_o
0.06274732 Belgian
0.06298421 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.06318391 French_Seine-Maritime
0.06323689 Polish

Distance to: MX192_scaled
0.04044076 Norwegian
0.04287914 Swedish
0.04317932 Icelandic
0.04575140 Dutch
0.04599462 Orcadian
0.04709238 Scottish
0.04721007 Irish
0.04863814 Afrikaner
0.04871952 Welsh
0.04897302 German
0.04908184 Danish
0.04935383 Shetlandic
0.04946646 English
0.05161996 French_Brittany
0.05287703 Czech
0.05310850 Slovakian
0.05315369 English_Cornwall
0.05428294 German_East
0.05494405 Austrian
0.05774935 Hungarian
0.05818366 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.05856337 Belgian
0.06055356 French_Seine-Maritime
0.06087286 Moldovan_o
0.06129170 French_Nord

Distance to: MX190_scaled
0.04265581 Swedish
0.04275908 Icelandic
0.04353717 Norwegian
0.04402365 Orcadian
0.04427637 Dutch
0.04472942 Scottish
0.04476116 Irish
0.04550625 Welsh
0.04616030 German
0.04662647 Shetlandic
0.04731126 English
0.04771035 Afrikaner
0.04792178 French_Brittany
0.04812475 Danish
0.04828322 German_East
0.04943519 English_Cornwall
0.05116386 Czech
0.05193253 Austrian
0.05481130 French_Seine-Maritime
0.05530325 Slovakian
0.05547181 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.05555950 Hungarian
0.05593465 Belgian
0.05871971 French_Nord
0.06041209 Polish

Distance to: MX188_scaled
0.04428492 Norwegian
0.04496323 Dutch
0.04573193 Afrikaner
0.04574448 Icelandic
0.04640209 Swedish
0.04642032 Orcadian
0.04710416 Scottish
0.04784262 Irish
0.04804314 German
0.04838956 Welsh
0.04924562 English
0.05016711 Shetlandic
0.05038136 French_Brittany
0.05163989 Danish
0.05256981 English_Cornwall
0.05290718 Austrian
0.05422990 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.05480366 German_East
0.05510397 Czech
0.05530019 Slovakian
0.05615201 Belgian
0.05718667 Hungarian
0.05829945 French_Seine-Maritime
0.05843410 French_Nord
0.06052343 French_Alsace

[Ruggery]

Then why are the Central European La Tené samples that i posted closest to North Europeans?

The central euros are an intermediate between Northern Europe and the south, some being closer to the North and vice-versa.

[Token]

The central euros are an intermediate between Northern Europe and the south, some being closer to the North and vice-versa.

I'm talking about the samples i posted in the thread, not about modern Central Europeans.