Post Dodecad K12b results

**Rokhan** · 04-14-2020, 11:53 PM

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 43.73
2 North_European 23.39
3 Caucasus 13.71
4 Gedrosia 5.88
5 Northwest_African 5.56
6 Southwest_Asian 5.5
7 East_African 0.84
8 Siberian 0.79
9 Sub_Saharan 0.61

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Galicia (1000Genomes) 5.04
2 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 5.42
3 Portuguese (Dodecad) 5.7
4 Baleares (1000Genomes) 5.92
5 Murcia (1000Genomes) 7.76
6 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) 8.02
7 Canarias (1000Genomes) 9.11
8 Spanish (Dodecad) 9.53
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 9.54
10 North_Italian (HGDP) 9.6
11 Spaniards (Behar) 9.63
12 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 9.78
13 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 9.96
14 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) 11.25
15 Cantabria (1000Genomes) 11.69
16 Valencia (1000Genomes) 12.2
17 Aragon (1000Genomes) 12.93
18 French (HGDP) 14.35
19 French (Dodecad) 14.58
20 TSI30 (Metspalu) 15.34

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.6% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 16.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 1.62
2 91.3% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 8.7% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 1.67
3 83.5% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 16.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.68
4 92.1% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 7.9% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 1.74
5 92.4% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 7.6% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.82
6 83.4% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 16.6% Romanians (Behar) @ 1.83
7 92.4% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 7.6% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 1.84
8 92% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 8% Lezgins (Behar) @ 1.86
9 90.8% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 9.2% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 1.87
10 92.3% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 7.7% Adygei (HGDP) @ 1.89
11 75.9% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 24.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.91
12 83% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 17% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2
13 83.2% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 16.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2
14 63.8% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 36.2% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.16
15 91% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 9% Turks (Behar) @ 2.19
16 83% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 17% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.21
17 83.6% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 16.4% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.26
18 90.7% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 9.3% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.3
19 93.7% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 6.3% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.34
20 77.5% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 22.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.35

**Lucas** · 04-15-2020, 10:52 AM

To Vahaduo versions there are added references which were send by Leto from academic samples. And removed shit Russian average.

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/dodecad-k12b-vahaduo.htm

Ingush,22.2,3.01,0.25,0.77,5.52,18.18,0.11,0.05,3. 86,1.69,44.23,0.13
Lak,27.3,2.56,0.07,0.18,3.56,26.85,0.49,0,1.57,0.5 5,36.84,0.04
Avar,26.95,2.34,0.09,0.44,4.57,25.64,0.87,0.07,2.4 6,0.28,36.29,
Dargin,27.5,2.29,0,0.16,5.4,26.82,0.5,0.06,0.91,0. 22,36.1,0.08

Rus_Smolensk,4.73,2.10,0.21,0.14,21.28,57.01,0.40, 0.04,1.40,0.24,12.47,0
Rus_Tver,3.37,4.52,0.28,0.28,20.29,58.64,0.39,0.05 ,0.42,0.25,11.51,0
Rus_Kostroma,4.13,2.27,0.40,0.14,20.51,57.63,0.94, 0,0.92,0.48,12.43,0
Southwest_Rus,4.03,3.23,0.10,0.38,20.48,58.97,0.64 ,0.05,1.17,0.46,10.47,0
Rus_Pinega,3.85,10.14,0,0.34,16.97,61.30,0.72,0,0. 66,1.17,4.84,0

**Leto** · 04-15-2020, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Lukasz

To Vahaduo versions there are added references which were send by Leto from academic samples. And removed shit Russian average.

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/dodecad-k12b-vahaduo.htm

Ingush,22.2,3.01,0.25,0.77,5.52,18.18,0.11,0.05,3. 86,1.69,44.23,0.13
Lak,27.3,2.56,0.07,0.18,3.56,26.85,0.49,0,1.57,0.5 5,36.84,0.04
Avar,26.95,2.34,0.09,0.44,4.57,25.64,0.87,0.07,2.4 6,0.28,36.29,
Dargin,27.5,2.29,0,0.16,5.4,26.82,0.5,0.06,0.91,0. 22,36.1,0.08
Chechens,21.80,2.60,0.00,0.70,0.00,23.00,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,0.60,51.30,0.00

Rus_Smolensk,4.73,2.10,0.21,0.14,21.28,57.01,0.40, 0.04,1.40,0.24,12.47,0
Rus_Tver,3.37,4.52,0.28,0.28,20.29,58.64,0.39,0.05 ,0.42,0.25,11.51,0
Rus_Kostroma,4.13,2.27,0.40,0.14,20.51,57.63,0.94, 0,0.92,0.48,12.43,0
Southwest_Rus,4.03,3.23,0.10,0.38,20.48,58.97,0.64 ,0.05,1.17,0.46,10.47,0
Rus_Pinega,3.85,10.14,0,0.34,16.97,61.30,0.72,0,0. 66,1.17,4.84,0

Thanks but the Chechen one isn't from me and it doesn't look good either (zero Atlantic Med and 51% Caucasus? no way).
What I did send you was a Chuvash average.

Chuvash,5.61,19.5,0.15,0.67,7.08,51.53,0.97,0,1.01 ,4.12,9.33,0

**Lucas** · 04-15-2020, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by Leto

Thanks but the Chechen one isn't from me and it doesn't look good either (zero Atlantic Med and 51% Caucasus? no way).
What I did send you was a Chuvash average.

Chuvash,5.61,19.5,0.15,0.67,7.08,51.53,0.97,0,1.01 ,4.12,9.33,0

Yes, I copied it from spreadsheet by accident. BTW also now it is removed.

**Leto** · 04-15-2020, 11:09 AM

My updated oracle

Distance to: Leto
4.00436012 Southwest_Rus
4.18990453 Rus_Tver
4.25631296 Rus_Kostroma
4.25930746 Rus_Smolensk
9.77480435 Polish
10.09857416 Rus_Pinega
10.17952848 Mixed_Slav
10.44324183 Ukranians
11.47054053 Mordovians
13.17623998 Hungarians

Target: Leto
Distance: 1.8713% / 1.87131612 | ADC: 0.5x
74.6 Southwest_Rus
16.4 Rus_Smolensk
5.8 Tatar_Kazan
2.2 Chuvashs
1.0 Saudis

Target: Leto
Distance: 0.8120% / 0.81199310 | ADC: 0.25x
75.8 Southwest_Rus
13.0 Rus_Smolensk
6.6 Chuvashs
2.0 Saudis
2.0 Tatar_Kazan
0.6 Brahui

My brother-in-law's

Distance to: VSh
3.64555894 Southwest_Rus
4.43557212 Rus_Smolensk
4.46568024 Rus_Tver
4.78737924 Rus_Kostroma
9.79139418 Polish
9.99538894 Rus_Pinega
11.62012909 Mixed_Slav
12.64221895 Ukranians
12.98798291 Hungarians
13.84217107 Mordovians

Target: VSh
Distance: 1.8421% / 1.84208703 | ADC: 0.5x
87.0 Southwest_Rus
5.8 Swedish
3.6 Argyll
3.6 Tatar_Kazan

Target: VSh
Distance: 0.9351% / 0.93506857 | ADC: 0.25x
76.2 Southwest_Rus
6.8 Swedish
6.0 Rus_Pinega
5.6 Argyll
5.0 Tatar_Kazan
0.2 Brahui
0.2 Saudis

Father's

Distance to: Leto_Father
2.31531855 Southwest_Rus
2.74357431 Rus_Kostroma
3.13867807 Rus_Smolensk
3.58492678 Rus_Tver
6.45250339 Polish
8.23679549 Mixed_Slav
9.29923115 Ukranians
11.30086280 Belorussian
11.56662440 Rus_Pinega
11.88022306 Mordovians

Target: Leto_Father
Distance: 2.1704% / 2.17036053 | ADC: 1x
80.8 Southwest_Rus
19.2 Rus_Kostroma

Target: Leto_Father
Distance: 1.9984% / 1.99840937 | ADC: 0.5x
64.4 Southwest_Rus
17.8 Rus_Kostroma
13.6 Rus_Smolensk
3.2 Polish
0.6 Lithuanians
0.4 Swedish

Target: Leto_Father
Distance: 1.3920% / 1.39195680 | ADC: 0.25x
41.6 Rus_Kostroma
26.6 Rus_Smolensk
18.6 Southwest_Rus
7.4 Lithuanians
5.8 Swedish

Mother's

Distance to: Leto_Mother
5.98461360 Southwest_Rus
5.99980000 Rus_Tver
7.03824552 Rus_Kostroma
7.34728521 Rus_Smolensk
7.80090379 Rus_Pinega
10.20880992 Mordovians
10.80323563 Mixed_Slav
11.34477413 Polish
11.65151492 Ukranians
14.35059581 Belorussian

Target: Leto_Mother
Distance: 2.4256% / 2.42563957 | ADC: 0.5x
65.2 Southwest_Rus
21.8 Rus_Pinega
6.6 Chuvashs
5.4 Tatar_Kazan
1.0 Saudis

Target: Leto_Mother
Distance: 1.0522% / 1.05220224 | ADC: 0.25x
46.8 Southwest_Rus
30.8 Rus_Pinega
10.2 Mordovians
9.4 Tatar_Kazan
2.8 Saudis

**Lucas** · 04-15-2020, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

My updated oracle

Distance to: Leto
4.00436012 Southwest_Rus
4.18990453 Rus_Tver
4.25631296 Rus_Kostroma
4.25930746 Rus_Smolensk
9.77480435 Polish
10.09857416 Rus_Pinega
10.17952848 Mixed_Slav
10.44324183 Ukranians
11.47054053 Mordovians
13.17623998 Hungarians

Target: Leto
Distance: 1.8713% / 1.87131612 | ADC: 0.5x
74.6 Southwest_Rus
16.4 Rus_Smolensk
5.8 Tatar_Kazan
2.2 Chuvashs
1.0 Saudis

Target: Leto
Distance: 0.8120% / 0.81199310 | ADC: 0.25x
75.8 Southwest_Rus
13.0 Rus_Smolensk
6.6 Chuvashs
2.0 Saudis
2.0 Tatar_Kazan
0.6 Brahui

My brother-in-law's

Distance to: VSh
3.64555894 Southwest_Rus
4.43557212 Rus_Smolensk
4.46568024 Rus_Tver
4.78737924 Rus_Kostroma
9.79139418 Polish
9.99538894 Rus_Pinega
11.62012909 Mixed_Slav
12.64221895 Ukranians
12.98798291 Hungarians
13.84217107 Mordovians

Target: VSh
Distance: 1.8421% / 1.84208703 | ADC: 0.5x
87.0 Southwest_Rus
5.8 Swedish
3.6 Argyll
3.6 Tatar_Kazan

Target: VSh
Distance: 0.9351% / 0.93506857 | ADC: 0.25x
76.2 Southwest_Rus
6.8 Swedish
6.0 Rus_Pinega
5.6 Argyll
5.0 Tatar_Kazan
0.2 Brahui
0.2 Saudis

Father's

Distance to: Leto_Father
2.31531855 Southwest_Rus
2.74357431 Rus_Kostroma
3.13867807 Rus_Smolensk
3.58492678 Rus_Tver
6.45250339 Polish
8.23679549 Mixed_Slav
9.29923115 Ukranians
11.30086280 Belorussian
11.56662440 Rus_Pinega
11.88022306 Mordovians

Target: Leto_Father
Distance: 2.1704% / 2.17036053 | ADC: 1x
80.8 Southwest_Rus
19.2 Rus_Kostroma

Target: Leto_Father
Distance: 1.9984% / 1.99840937 | ADC: 0.5x
64.4 Southwest_Rus
17.8 Rus_Kostroma
13.6 Rus_Smolensk
3.2 Polish
0.6 Lithuanians
0.4 Swedish

Target: Leto_Father
Distance: 1.3920% / 1.39195680 | ADC: 0.25x
41.6 Rus_Kostroma
26.6 Rus_Smolensk
18.6 Southwest_Rus
7.4 Lithuanians
5.8 Swedish

Mother's

Distance to: Leto_Mother
5.98461360 Southwest_Rus
5.99980000 Rus_Tver
7.03824552 Rus_Kostroma
7.34728521 Rus_Smolensk
7.80090379 Rus_Pinega
10.20880992 Mordovians
10.80323563 Mixed_Slav
11.34477413 Polish
11.65151492 Ukranians
14.35059581 Belorussian

Target: Leto_Mother
Distance: 2.4256% / 2.42563957 | ADC: 0.5x
65.2 Southwest_Rus
21.8 Rus_Pinega
6.6 Chuvashs
5.4 Tatar_Kazan
1.0 Saudis

Target: Leto_Mother
Distance: 1.0522% / 1.05220224 | ADC: 0.25x
46.8 Southwest_Rus
30.8 Rus_Pinega
10.2 Mordovians
9.4 Tatar_Kazan
2.8 Saudis

Mine

Target: luk
Distance: 3.0335% / 3.03354578 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Rus_Smolensk

Target: luk
Distance: 2.7043% / 2.70432739 | ADC: 1x
92.8 Rus_Smolensk
7.2 Polish

Target: luk
Distance: 1.9937% / 1.99370673 | ADC: 0.5x
70.6 Rus_Smolensk
23.6 Polish
5.8 Hungarians

Target: luk
Distance: 1.2818% / 1.28183779 | ADC: 0.25x
51.2 Rus_Smolensk
36.0 Polish
12.0 Hungarians
0.8 Saudis

Target: luk
Distance: 0.0729% / 0.07291042
19.6 Lithuanian
15.0 Lithuanians
11.6 Polish
11.4 Belorussian
4.2 German
4.0 Swedish
3.4 Romanians
3.2 Argyll
3.0 Bosnian
2.6 Albanian_North
2.4 Ukranians
2.0 Mixed_Germanic
2.0 Orkney
1.4 CEU30
1.4 Croat
1.4 Hungarians
1.2 Dutch
1.2 Italy_Abruzzo
1.2 Italy_Lazio
0.8 French
0.8 Hemshin
0.8 Portuguese
0.4 Bulgarian
0.4 Italy_Liguria
0.4 Macedonian
0.4 Rus_Smolensk
0.2 Abhkasians
0.2 Azerbaijan_Jews
0.2 Cypriots
0.2 France_Corsica
0.2 Georgian_Imereti
0.2 Greek_Crete
0.2 Italy_Aosta_Valley
0.2 Italy_Calabria
0.2 Kurumba
0.2 Laz
0.2 Lur_Iran
0.2 Mozabite
0.2 North_Kannadi
0.2 Pulliyar
0.2 Samaritians
0.2 Saudis
0.2 Swiss_Italian
0.2 Velamas
0.2 Yemen_Jews

**Gallop** · 04-15-2020, 02:20 PM

**Leto** · 04-15-2020, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Lukasz

Mine

The oracle still lacks decent Polish, Ukrainian and Belorussian averages. At least give me what was used by David back in the day.

**Rokhan** · 04-15-2020, 07:40 PM

Distance to: rokhan
5.43419727 Galicia
5.87626582 Extremadura
6.21342096 Portuguese
6.29483121 Baleares
8.35445390 Murcia
8.64516628 Castilla_Y_Leon
9.06864140 Italy_Aosta_Valley
9.80902136 Canarias
10.30662408 Spanish
10.32912871 Spaniards
10.55778859 Cataluna
10.60230223 Swiss_Italian
10.70867405 Andalucia
10.86521974 Italy_Piedmont
11.06135189 Italy_Lombardy
11.59801017 Italy_Trentino
12.15520053 Castilla_La_Mancha
12.17953489 Italy_Liguria
12.60876283 Cantabria
12.74993849 Italy_Veneto
13.11213560 Valencia
13.15125891 Italy_Emilia
13.92099494 Aragon
14.14099417 Italy_FriuliVG
14.59425058 Italy_Tuscany

Target: rokhan
Distance: 543.4197% / 5.43419727 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Galicia

Target: rokhan
Distance: 338.7026% / 3.38702571 | ADC: 1x
81.6 Galicia
16.6 Italy_Piedmont
1.8 Extremadura

Target: rokhan
Distance: 157.9452% / 1.57945234 | ADC: 0.5x
38.6 Portuguese
30.4 Italy_Piedmont
17.8 Galicia
13.2 Extremadura

Target: rokhan
Distance: 80.8625% / 0.80862480 | ADC: 0.25x
39.0 Portuguese
32.6 Italy_Piedmont
12.2 Extremadura
10.2 Galicia
5.0 Canarias
0.6 Selkup
0.2 Italy_Aosta_Valley
0.2 MKK30

Target: rokhan
Distance: 10.2822% / 0.10282178
7.0 Spanish
6.8 Spaniards
5.8 Castilla_La_Mancha
5.6 Italy_Trentino
5.4 Sardinian
4.8 Andalucia
4.8 Kent
4.8 Moroccans
4.6 Valencia
4.4 Pais_Vasco
4.0 French
3.0 Italy_Piedmont
2.8 France_Corsica
2.8 French_Basque
2.4 Canarias
2.2 Greek
2.2 Italy_FriuliVG
2.0 Albanian_North
2.0 Baleares
2.0 Italy_Campania
1.6 Italy_Romagna
1.6 Norwegian
1.4 Cypriots
1.4 German
1.4 Murcia
1.2 Dutch
1.2 Italy_Sicily
1.0 Mixed_Germanic
1.0 Mozabite
0.8 Swedish
0.6 Belorussian
0.6 Egyptans
0.6 Finnish
0.6 Macedonian
0.6 Rus_Tver
0.6 Selkup
0.4 Croat
0.4 Extremadura
0.4 Italy_Abruzzo
0.2 Algerian
0.2 Bedouin
0.2 British
0.2 Bulgarians
0.2 Ethiopians
0.2 Hungarians
0.2 Irish
0.2 Lebanese
0.2 Morocco_Jews
0.2 Nganassan
0.2 Orcadian
0.2 Rus_Pinega
0.2 Sandawe_He
0.2 Saudis
0.2 Sephardic_Jews
0.2 Yemen_Jews

**~~Harald Meller~~** · 05-15-2020, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by Gallop

Although I think that in general everything will need a decade or more to be even more precise and of course the payment ones are making a difference, that's the world.

My results in 24Genetics

The total almost identical to FTDNA

Yes those are your real results, not that fake 21% Argentina.

You get 18% Irish-British-"Nordic Celt" in Global25 too:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...73#post6696973

BTW did you receive only one mode from 24G?