South Slavic & neighbours gedmatch results - vol.2

[CommonSense]

Đorđević #2, sister of the woman above:

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Kit H590554

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.35
2 North_Atlantic 23.7
3 West_Med 20.09
4 East_Med 15.4
5 West_Asian 9.84
6 Siberian 0.56
7 East_Asian 0.51
8 Red_Sea 0.24
9 Amerindian 0.18
10 Oceanian 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.63
2 Romanian 6.05
3 Bulgarian 7.14
4 Moldavian 7.64
5 Croatian 10.09
6 Hungarian 11.46
7 Austrian 14.4
8 Greek_Thessaly 15.44
9 East_German 15.58
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.49
11 South_Polish 17.31
12 Ukrainian 17.48
13 North_Italian 18.36
14 West_German 19.69
15 Tuscan 19.77
16 French 20.55
17 Polish 20.76
18 Southwest_Russian 20.99
19 South_Dutch 21.06
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.5% Bulgarian + 39.5% Croatian @ 3.66
2 85.4% Moldavian + 14.6% Sardinian @ 3.74
3 73.8% Bulgarian + 26.2% Ukrainian @ 3.76
4 61.6% Croatian + 38.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.87
5 52.3% Bulgarian + 47.7% Moldavian @ 3.91
6 53.3% Greek_Thessaly + 46.7% Ukrainian @ 3.97
7 73% Bulgarian + 27% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.99
8 77.5% Bulgarian + 22.5% Polish @ 4.01
9 74.1% Bulgarian + 25.9% South_Polish @ 4.02
10 70.5% Croatian + 29.5% Central_Greek @ 4.06
11 74.1% Croatian + 25.9% South_Italian @ 4.07
12 60.8% Ukrainian + 39.2% South_Italian @ 4.12
13 69.9% Moldavian + 30.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.14
14 75.2% Moldavian + 24.8% Tuscan @ 4.19
15 56.5% Ukrainian + 43.5% Central_Greek @ 4.23
16 59.6% Romanian + 40.4% Moldavian @ 4.24
17 82.8% Bulgarian + 17.2% Estonian @ 4.25
18 80% Bulgarian + 20% Estonian_Polish @ 4.26
19 83% Bulgarian + 17% Lithuanian @ 4.26
20 68.1% Romanian + 31.9% Croatian @ 4.27

[Jana]

I have trouble with where to include Livno samples, have plenty.
Livno, Duvno and Kupres are Tropolje/Završje region, region on exact border between Bosnia, Herzegovina and Dalmatia (tromeđa)

Geographically Livno is rather SW Bosnia, but by origin of population and linguistics I found out they are by vast majority from Dalmatia by origin.
Since they have lot of similarities with Herzegovina and are majority Croats, many include them in Herzegovina.

My father who is quite expert on this claims Livno is closest to Dalmatian hinterland, not either Bosnia or Herzegovina.
There is some truth in that since it looks like account of people who own Sinj and Livno samples are connected and these people are all related.

But, political border is the problem.

I would prefer to add Livno into Dalmatian Hinterland average because origins matter more than politics, but I probably won't.

Will make separate Tropolje average and if it is too similar with Herzegovina one I will blend them togheder. Not going to add it to Bosnia, customs and mentality, etc are too different although geographically it could be counted as part of it.

[Tauromachos]

Very different from Mainland Greeks

[Pribislav]

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[Pribislav]

I have trouble with where to include Livno samples, have plenty.
Livno, Duvno and Kupres are Tropolje/Završje region, region on exact border between Bosnia, Herzegovina and Dalmatia (tromeđa)

Geographically Livno is rather SW Bosnia, but by origin of population and linguistics I found out they are by vast majority from Dalmatia by origin.
Since they have lot of similarities with Herzegovina and are majority Croats, many include them in Herzegovina.

My father who is quite expert on this claims Livno is closest to Dalmatian hinterland, not either Bosnia or Herzegovina.
There is some truth in that since it looks like account of people who own Sinj and Livno samples are connected and these people are all related.

But, political border is the problem.

I would prefer to add Livno into Dalmatian Hinterland average because origins matter more than politics, but I probably won't.

Will make separate Tropolje average and if it is too similar with Herzegovina one I will blend them togheder. Not going to add it to Bosnia, customs and mentality, etc are too different although geographically it could be counted as part of it.

Livno is SW Bosnia, not Dalmatia neither Herzegovina.

Livno Croatian samples should be included among Bosnian Croatians.

[Jana]

Livno is SW Bosnia, not Dalmatia neither Herzegovina.

Livno Croatian samples should be included among Bosnian Croatians.

They have different origins, customs and dialect than Bosnians, in all of these they are closest to Zagora. But I know it's SW Bosnia by geography.
I need to find out where from are Bosnian_Croat academic samples posted by Vbnethkio.

[CommonSense]

Croat from Komiža, island of Vis (has gedcom):

Spoiler!

Kit A067541

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.18
2 North_Atlantic 25.61
3 West_Med 14.9
4 West_Asian 12.92
5 East_Med 11.53
6 Red_Sea 1.5
7 Siberian 0.67
8 Amerindian 0.62
9 Oceanian 0.53
10 East_Asian 0.29
11 South_Asian 0.15
12 Northeast_African 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.94
2 Serbian 6.1
3 Croatian 6.59
4 Hungarian 7.96
5 Romanian 8.59
6 Bulgarian 10.64
7 Austrian 11.65
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.4
9 East_German 12.63
10 South_Polish 13.28
11 Ukrainian 13.9
12 Polish 16.77
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.88
14 Southwest_Russian 17.01
15 West_German 18.05
16 Russian_Smolensk 18.77
17 Greek_Thessaly 19.46
18 South_Dutch 19.58
19 Estonian_Polish 19.61
20 Tatar 20.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88% Croatian + 12% Georgian @ 2.07
2 88.6% Croatian + 11.4% Abhkasian @ 2.14
3 87.9% Croatian + 12.1% Armenian @ 2.28
4 87% Croatian + 13% Ossetian @ 2.36
5 85.6% Croatian + 14.4% Turkish @ 2.46
6 86.2% Croatian + 13.8% Balkar @ 2.53
7 86.5% Croatian + 13.5% Adygei @ 2.58
8 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Kumyk @ 2.6
9 94% Moldavian + 6% Georgian @ 2.64
10 87.8% Croatian + 12.2% Kurdish @ 2.66
11 86.9% Croatian + 13.1% North_Ossetian @ 2.7
12 94.4% Moldavian + 5.6% Abhkasian @ 2.7
13 93.5% Moldavian + 6.5% Ossetian @ 2.71
14 86.7% Croatian + 13.3% Azeri @ 2.72
15 88.2% Croatian + 11.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.78
16 93% Moldavian + 7% Lezgin @ 2.79
17 92.8% Moldavian + 7.2% Tabassaran @ 2.79
18 93.3% Moldavian + 6.7% Adygei @ 2.8
19 85.9% Croatian + 14.1% Kabardin @ 2.8
20 92.9% Moldavian + 7.1% Chechen @ 2.81

[Jana]

Livno is ''i'' on Bosna i Hercegovina.
I think it's best to make them their own region, Završje is old and historical region separate from both Bosnia proper and Herzegovina.

[Jana]

Croat from Komiža, island of Vis (has gedcom):

Spoiler!

Kit A067541

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.18
2 North_Atlantic 25.61
3 West_Med 14.9
4 West_Asian 12.92
5 East_Med 11.53
6 Red_Sea 1.5
7 Siberian 0.67
8 Amerindian 0.62
9 Oceanian 0.53
10 East_Asian 0.29
11 South_Asian 0.15
12 Northeast_African 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.94
2 Serbian 6.1
3 Croatian 6.59
4 Hungarian 7.96
5 Romanian 8.59
6 Bulgarian 10.64
7 Austrian 11.65
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.4
9 East_German 12.63
10 South_Polish 13.28
11 Ukrainian 13.9
12 Polish 16.77
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.88
14 Southwest_Russian 17.01
15 West_German 18.05
16 Russian_Smolensk 18.77
17 Greek_Thessaly 19.46
18 South_Dutch 19.58
19 Estonian_Polish 19.61
20 Tatar 20.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88% Croatian + 12% Georgian @ 2.07
2 88.6% Croatian + 11.4% Abhkasian @ 2.14
3 87.9% Croatian + 12.1% Armenian @ 2.28
4 87% Croatian + 13% Ossetian @ 2.36
5 85.6% Croatian + 14.4% Turkish @ 2.46
6 86.2% Croatian + 13.8% Balkar @ 2.53
7 86.5% Croatian + 13.5% Adygei @ 2.58
8 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Kumyk @ 2.6
9 94% Moldavian + 6% Georgian @ 2.64
10 87.8% Croatian + 12.2% Kurdish @ 2.66
11 86.9% Croatian + 13.1% North_Ossetian @ 2.7
12 94.4% Moldavian + 5.6% Abhkasian @ 2.7
13 93.5% Moldavian + 6.5% Ossetian @ 2.71
14 86.7% Croatian + 13.3% Azeri @ 2.72
15 88.2% Croatian + 11.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.78
16 93% Moldavian + 7% Lezgin @ 2.79
17 92.8% Moldavian + 7.2% Tabassaran @ 2.79
18 93.3% Moldavian + 6.7% Adygei @ 2.8
19 85.9% Croatian + 14.1% Kabardin @ 2.8
20 92.9% Moldavian + 7.1% Chechen @ 2.81

Thank you thank you thank you!

So excited to receive full islander samples!!!



Tomorrow my mom will call her father's sister in US, she is really old and promised to DNA test (actually did once, but sample failed )
She is full from my Island.

[CommonSense]

Brother of that woman from Vis island:

Spoiler!

Kit M524398

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.13
2 North_Atlantic 25.83
3 East_Med 14.86
4 West_Med 13.92
5 West_Asian 9.14
6 Red_Sea 2.2
7 Amerindian 1.02
8 Siberian 0.49
9 Oceanian 0.42

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.64
2 Serbian 4.97
3 Croatian 6.18
4 Hungarian 7.3
5 Romanian 8.19
6 Bulgarian 10.15
7 Austrian 11.78
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.3
9 East_German 12.74
10 South_Polish 12.88
11 Ukrainian 13.53
12 Polish 16.38
13 Southwest_Russian 16.4
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.68
15 Russian_Smolensk 18.3
16 West_German 18.32
17 Estonian_Polish 18.8
18 Greek_Thessaly 18.89
19 Belorussian 19.26
20 South_Dutch 19.87

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.4% Romanian + 29.6% Belorussian @ 1.31
2 51.1% Lithuanian + 48.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.37
3 74.8% Romanian + 25.2% Lithuanian @ 1.51
4 57.1% Estonian_Polish + 42.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.52
5 70% Romanian + 30% Estonian_Polish @ 1.55
6 69.4% Romanian + 30.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.64
7 69.9% Bulgarian + 30.1% Estonian @ 1.65
8 56.5% Belorussian + 43.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.71
9 67.1% Romanian + 32.9% Southwest_Russian @ 1.75
10 88.5% Croatian + 11.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 1.75
11 61.3% Polish + 38.7% Central_Greek @ 1.75
12 65.7% Bulgarian + 34.3% Belorussian @ 1.76
13 62% Bulgarian + 38% Polish @ 1.76
14 66.9% South_Polish + 33.1% Central_Greek @ 1.8
15 57.8% Russian_Smolensk + 42.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.82
16 56.1% Bulgarian + 43.9% South_Polish @ 1.86
17 58.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 41.7% Tuscan @ 1.86
18 64.9% Polish + 35.1% South_Italian @ 1.86
19 52.6% Estonian + 47.4% Central_Greek @ 1.92
20 59.6% South_Polish + 40.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.96