Serbian Autosomal DNA

**Dušan** · 04-16-2020, 08:17 PM

Well, according to that way, I am closer to overall Romanian average than to South Serbian average. I am not sure is it correct.

But I got ok mixed mode results.

Target: Dušan
Distance: 1.7295% / 1.72949741 | ADC: 0.25x
86.0 Serb_Slavic_shifted
6.4 Sardinian
3.4 Croatian
2.2 Kargopol_Russian
1.2 Mari
0.8 Ukrainian

Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.4862% / 2.48618358 | ADC: 0.5x
95.8 Serb_Slavic_shifted
3.6 Sardinian
0.6 Serb_Germanic_shifted

Target: Dušan
Distance: 3.5173% / 3.51734151 | ADC: 1x
94.4 Serb_Slavic_shifted
5.6 Serb

**vbnetkhio** · 04-16-2020, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Dušan

Well, according to that way, I am closer to overall Romanian average than to South Serbian average. I am not sure is it correct.

But I got ok mixed mode results.

Target: Dušan
Distance: 1.7295% / 1.72949741 | ADC: 0.25x
86.0 Serb_Slavic_shifted
6.4 Sardinian
3.4 Croatian
2.2 Kargopol_Russian
1.2 Mari
0.8 Ukrainian

Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.4862% / 2.48618358 | ADC: 0.5x
95.8 Serb_Slavic_shifted
3.6 Sardinian
0.6 Serb_Germanic_shifted

Target: Dušan
Distance: 3.5173% / 3.51734151 | ADC: 1x
94.4 Serb_Slavic_shifted
5.6 Serb

it's far south., near the Macedonian border. not Niš or Leskovac.

**Dušan** · 04-16-2020, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

it's far south., near the Macedonian border. not Niš or Leskovac.

Ok, I understand.

**Dušan** · 04-16-2020, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

@Dušan
k15 and k36 values if you want to do the Tolan tools for them:

Serb	Montenegrin_Coast	Serbia_far_south	Serb_Slavic_shifted	Serb_Germanic_shifted
17.91	17.13	18.40	16.33	19.79
13.92	18.35	7.78	11.57	18.00
19.29	16.38	15.99	23.94	20.87
11.05	5.51	10.55	15.56	12.59
13.73	15.16	16.21	12.17	11.39
9.19	10.56	10.94	9.55	5.71
12.25	14.34	17.91	9.42	7.34
1.63	1.14	1.47	1.14	2.78
0.24	0.00	0.16	0.00	0.80
0.13	0.00	0.00	0.08	0.43
0.20	0.55	0.15	0.09	0.00
0.20	0.61	0.00	0.00	0.19
0.20	0.00	0.47	0.18	0.16
0.05	0.18	0.00	0.00	0.00
0.03	0.11	0.00	0.00	0.00

**vbnetkhio** · 04-17-2020, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Dušan

Well, according to that way, I am closer to overall Romanian average than to South Serbian average. I am not sure is it correct.

But I got ok mixed mode results.

Target: Dušan
Distance: 1.7295% / 1.72949741 | ADC: 0.25x
86.0 Serb_Slavic_shifted
6.4 Sardinian
3.4 Croatian
2.2 Kargopol_Russian
1.2 Mari
0.8 Ukrainian

Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.4862% / 2.48618358 | ADC: 0.5x
95.8 Serb_Slavic_shifted
3.6 Sardinian
0.6 Serb_Germanic_shifted

Target: Dušan
Distance: 3.5173% / 3.51734151 | ADC: 1x
94.4 Serb_Slavic_shifted
5.6 Serb

mine, original eurogenes sheet + these 5 new averages - the old Serbian average
it's in R oracle, vahaduo results don't make much sense for me

Code:

[,1]                    [,2]     
 [1,] "Serb"                  "5.6826" 
 [2,] "Serb_Slavic_shifted"   "6.6"    
 [3,] "Moldavian"             "7.9285" 
 [4,] "Serb_Germanic_shifted" "9.1841" 
 [5,] "Serbia_far_south"      "10.1392"
 [6,] "Croatian"              "10.1675"
 [7,] "Romanian"              "10.2879"
 [8,] "Bulgarian"             "11.3652"
 [9,] "Montenegrin_Coast"     "12.9681"
[10,] "Hungarian"             "13.3352"
[11,] "Ukrainian_Lviv"        "16.6476"
[12,] "Austrian"              "17.3444"
[13,] "Ukrainian"             "17.6717"
[14,] "South_Polish"          "18.0027"
[15,] "East_German"           "18.1251"
[16,] "Greek_Thessaly"        "20.288" 
[17,] "Southwest_Russian"     "21.3518"
[18,] "Polish"                "21.5379"
[19,] "Ukrainian_Belgorod"    "22.0183"
[20,] "Russian_Smolensk"      "23.5086"
      [,1]                                                                 [,2]    
 [1,] "11.4 %  Sardinian  +  88.6 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"                  "3.1232"
 [2,] "17.4 %  North_Italian  +  82.6 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"              "4.4587"
 [3,] "34.7 %  Ukrainian  +  65.3 %  Serbia_far_south"                     "4.5333"
 [4,] "49.9 %  Croatian  +  50.1 %  Serbia_far_south"                      "4.6431"
 [5,] "15.9 %  Tuscan  +  84.1 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"                     "4.6535"
 [6,] "13.7 %  Spanish_Valencia  +  86.3 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"           "4.6793"
 [7,] "30 %  Polish  +  70 %  Serbia_far_south"                            "4.6898"
 [8,] "13.3 %  Spanish_Andalucia  +  86.7 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"          "4.6994"
 [9,] "36 %  Ukrainian_Lviv  +  64 %  Serbia_far_south"                    "4.7104"
[10,] "23.7 %  Estonian  +  76.3 %  Serbia_far_south"                      "4.7383"
[11,] "40.5 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted  +  59.5 %  Serb"                       "4.7549"
[12,] "13.8 %  Spanish_Extremadura  +  86.2 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"        "4.7867"
[13,] "14.5 %  Portuguese  +  85.5 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"                 "4.791" 
[14,] "13.2 %  Spanish_Murcia  +  86.8 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"             "4.8173"
[15,] "14.3 %  Spanish_Galicia  +  85.7 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"            "4.8435"
[16,] "12.7 %  Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha  +  87.3 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted" "4.8692"
[17,] "11.7 %  Spanish_Aragon  +  88.3 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"             "4.8699"
[18,] "87.8 %  Moldavian  +  12.2 %  Sardinian"                            "4.8943"
[19,] "12.7 %  Spanish_Cantabria  +  87.3 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"          "4.9143"
[20,] "13.2 %  Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon  +  86.8 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"    "4.9256"
      [,1]                                                          [,2]    
 [1,] "50% %  Croatian  +  50% %  Serbia_far_south"                 "4.674" 
 [2,] "50% %  Serb_Slavic_shifted  +  50% %  Serb"                  "5.3647"
 [3,] "50% %  Serbia_far_south  +  50% %  Serb_Germanic_shifted"    "6.0542"
 [4,] "50% %  Croatian  +  50% %  Romanian"                         "6.8482"
 [5,] "50% %  Moldavian  +  50% %  Serb"                            "6.9166"
 [6,] "50% %  Moldavian  +  50% %  Serbia_far_south"                "7.0586"
 [7,] "50% %  Bulgarian  +  50% %  Croatian"                        "7.0593"
 [8,] "50% %  East_Sicilian  +  50% %  Lithuanian"                  "7.2662"
 [9,] "50% %  Kargopol_Russian  +  50% %  Tuscan"                   "7.4322"
[10,] "50% %  Lithuanian  +  50% %  West_Sicilian"                  "7.5968"
[11,] "50% %  Moldavian  +  50% %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"             "7.6616"
[12,] "50% %  Serbia_far_south  +  50% %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"      "7.8204"
[13,] "50% %  Greek_Thessaly  +  50% %  Polish"                     "7.9805"
[14,] "50% %  Serb_Slavic_shifted  +  50% %  Serb_Germanic_shifted" "8.0351"
[15,] "50% %  Greek_Thessaly  +  50% %  Southwest_Russian"          "8.1127"
[16,] "50% %  East_Sicilian  +  50% %  Estonian"                    "8.1352"
[17,] "50% %  Serb_Germanic_shifted  +  50% %  Serb"                "8.1992"
[18,] "50% %  Romanian  +  50% %  Serb_Germanic_shifted"            "8.228" 
[19,] "50% %  Romanian  +  50% %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"              "8.2509"
[20,] "50% %  Moldavian  +  50% %  Romanian"                        "8.2908"

**Dušan** · 04-17-2020, 03:16 PM

Lets run for me that R oracle.

**vbnetkhio** · 04-17-2020, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Dušan

Lets run for me that R oracle.

here

Code:

     [,1]                    [,2]     
 [1,] "Serb_Slavic_shifted"   "3.7342" 
 [2,] "Moldavian"             "5.1665" 
 [3,] "Serb"                  "6.6202" 
 [4,] "Croatian"              "7.6836" 
 [5,] "Serb_Germanic_shifted" "8.3941" 
 [6,] "Romanian"              "11.5856"
 [7,] "Serbia_far_south"      "11.9782"
 [8,] "Hungarian"             "12.1667"
 [9,] "Bulgarian"             "12.9876"
[10,] "Ukrainian_Lviv"        "13.8208"
[11,] "Montenegrin_Coast"     "14.7336"
[12,] "Ukrainian"             "14.9527"
[13,] "South_Polish"          "15.4658"
[14,] "Austrian"              "16.6153"
[15,] "East_German"           "17.0374"
[16,] "Southwest_Russian"     "18.541" 
[17,] "Polish"                "18.9585"
[18,] "Ukrainian_Belgorod"    "19.044" 
[19,] "Russian_Smolensk"      "20.7734"
[20,] "Estonian_Polish"       "21.1582"
      [,1]                                                                [,2]    
 [1,] "5.9 %  Sardinian  +  94.1 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"                  "2.2494"
 [2,] "7.2 %  Southwest_French  +  92.8 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"           "2.7974"
 [3,] "7 %  Spanish_Cantabria  +  93 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"              "2.8481"
 [4,] "7.1 %  Spanish_Valencia  +  92.9 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"           "2.8636"
 [5,] "6.8 %  Spanish_Andalucia  +  93.2 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"          "2.8708"
 [6,] "7.6 %  Spanish_Galicia  +  92.4 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"            "2.8807"
 [7,] "6.2 %  Spanish_Aragon  +  93.8 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"             "2.8835"
 [8,] "6.7 %  Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha  +  93.3 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted" "2.9097"
 [9,] "7 %  Spanish_Extremadura  +  93 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"            "2.9315"
[10,] "7.4 %  Portuguese  +  92.6 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"                 "2.9323"
[11,] "6.7 %  Spanish_Murcia  +  93.3 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"             "2.9567"
[12,] "4.7 %  French_Basque  +  95.3 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"              "2.9608"
[13,] "6.9 %  Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon  +  93.1 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"    "2.964" 
[14,] "8 %  North_Italian  +  92 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"                  "2.992" 
[15,] "6.9 %  Spanish_Cataluna  +  93.1 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"           "3.0019"
[16,] "44.1 %  Ukrainian  +  55.9 %  Serbia_far_south"                    "3.1988"
[17,] "6.5 %  Tuscan  +  93.5 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"                     "3.2136"
[18,] "75.3 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted  +  24.7 %  Serb"                      "3.214" 
[19,] "3.8 %  Moroccan  +  96.2 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"                   "3.2612"
[20,] "3.8 %  Mozabite_Berber  +  96.2 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"            "3.2718"
      [,1]                                                          [,2]    
 [1,] "50% %  Moldavian  +  50% %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"             "4.7469"
 [2,] "50% %  Moldavian  +  50% %  Serb"                            "5.3672"
 [3,] "50% %  Serb_Slavic_shifted  +  50% %  Serb"                  "5.3895"
 [4,] "50% %  Croatian  +  50% %  Serb"                             "5.5075"
 [5,] "50% %  Greek_Thessaly  +  50% %  Kargopol_Russian"           "5.5647"
 [6,] "50% %  Bulgarian  +  50% %  Ukrainian_Lviv"                  "5.8193"
 [7,] "50% %  Ukrainian_Lviv  +  50% %  Serbia_far_south"           "5.9531"
 [8,] "50% %  Ukrainian  +  50% %  Montenegrin_Coast"               "6.4541"
 [9,] "50% %  Belorussian  +  50% %  Greek_Thessaly"                "6.4847"
[10,] "50% %  Croatian  +  50% %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"              "6.894" 
[11,] "50% %  Bulgarian  +  50% %  Ukrainian"                       "6.9951"
[12,] "50% %  Serb_Slavic_shifted  +  50% %  Serb_Germanic_shifted" "7.1187"
[13,] "50% %  Ukrainian  +  50% %  Serbia_far_south"                "7.2547"
[14,] "50% %  Ukrainian_Lviv  +  50% %  Montenegrin_Coast"          "7.279" 
[15,] "50% %  Serb_Germanic_shifted  +  50% %  Serb"                "7.3034"
[16,] "50% %  Hungarian  +  50% %  Serbia_far_south"                "7.3257"
[17,] "50% %  Croatian  +  50% %  Moldavian"                        "7.351" 
[18,] "50% %  Estonian_Polish  +  50% %  Greek_Thessaly"            "7.4659"
[19,] "50% %  Moldavian  +  50% %  Serb_Germanic_shifted"           "7.7578"
[20,] "50% %  Romanian  +  50% %  Ukrainian_Lviv"                   "7.8458"

**Dušan** · 04-17-2020, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

here

Code:

     [,1]                    [,2]     
 [1,] "Serb_Slavic_shifted"   "3.7342" 
 [2,] "Moldavian"             "5.1665" 
 [3,] "Serb"                  "6.6202" 
 [4,] "Croatian"              "7.6836" 
 [5,] "Serb_Germanic_shifted" "8.3941" 
 [6,] "Romanian"              "11.5856"
 [7,] "Serbia_far_south"      "11.9782"
 [8,] "Hungarian"             "12.1667"
 [9,] "Bulgarian"             "12.9876"
[10,] "Ukrainian_Lviv"        "13.8208"
[11,] "Montenegrin_Coast"     "14.7336"
[12,] "Ukrainian"             "14.9527"
[13,] "South_Polish"          "15.4658"
[14,] "Austrian"              "16.6153"
[15,] "East_German"           "17.0374"
[16,] "Southwest_Russian"     "18.541" 
[17,] "Polish"                "18.9585"
[18,] "Ukrainian_Belgorod"    "19.044" 
[19,] "Russian_Smolensk"      "20.7734"
[20,] "Estonian_Polish"       "21.1582"
      [,1]                                                                [,2]    
 [1,] "5.9 %  Sardinian  +  94.1 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"                  "2.2494"
 [2,] "7.2 %  Southwest_French  +  92.8 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"           "2.7974"
 [3,] "7 %  Spanish_Cantabria  +  93 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"              "2.8481"
 [4,] "7.1 %  Spanish_Valencia  +  92.9 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"           "2.8636"
 [5,] "6.8 %  Spanish_Andalucia  +  93.2 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"          "2.8708"
 [6,] "7.6 %  Spanish_Galicia  +  92.4 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"            "2.8807"
 [7,] "6.2 %  Spanish_Aragon  +  93.8 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"             "2.8835"
 [8,] "6.7 %  Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha  +  93.3 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted" "2.9097"
 [9,] "7 %  Spanish_Extremadura  +  93 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"            "2.9315"
[10,] "7.4 %  Portuguese  +  92.6 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"                 "2.9323"
[11,] "6.7 %  Spanish_Murcia  +  93.3 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"             "2.9567"
[12,] "4.7 %  French_Basque  +  95.3 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"              "2.9608"
[13,] "6.9 %  Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon  +  93.1 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"    "2.964" 
[14,] "8 %  North_Italian  +  92 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"                  "2.992" 
[15,] "6.9 %  Spanish_Cataluna  +  93.1 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"           "3.0019"
[16,] "44.1 %  Ukrainian  +  55.9 %  Serbia_far_south"                    "3.1988"
[17,] "6.5 %  Tuscan  +  93.5 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"                     "3.2136"
[18,] "75.3 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted  +  24.7 %  Serb"                      "3.214" 
[19,] "3.8 %  Moroccan  +  96.2 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"                   "3.2612"
[20,] "3.8 %  Mozabite_Berber  +  96.2 %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"            "3.2718"
      [,1]                                                          [,2]    
 [1,] "50% %  Moldavian  +  50% %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"             "4.7469"
 [2,] "50% %  Moldavian  +  50% %  Serb"                            "5.3672"
 [3,] "50% %  Serb_Slavic_shifted  +  50% %  Serb"                  "5.3895"
 [4,] "50% %  Croatian  +  50% %  Serb"                             "5.5075"
 [5,] "50% %  Greek_Thessaly  +  50% %  Kargopol_Russian"           "5.5647"
 [6,] "50% %  Bulgarian  +  50% %  Ukrainian_Lviv"                  "5.8193"
 [7,] "50% %  Ukrainian_Lviv  +  50% %  Serbia_far_south"           "5.9531"
 [8,] "50% %  Ukrainian  +  50% %  Montenegrin_Coast"               "6.4541"
 [9,] "50% %  Belorussian  +  50% %  Greek_Thessaly"                "6.4847"
[10,] "50% %  Croatian  +  50% %  Serb_Slavic_shifted"              "6.894" 
[11,] "50% %  Bulgarian  +  50% %  Ukrainian"                       "6.9951"
[12,] "50% %  Serb_Slavic_shifted  +  50% %  Serb_Germanic_shifted" "7.1187"
[13,] "50% %  Ukrainian  +  50% %  Serbia_far_south"                "7.2547"
[14,] "50% %  Ukrainian_Lviv  +  50% %  Montenegrin_Coast"          "7.279" 
[15,] "50% %  Serb_Germanic_shifted  +  50% %  Serb"                "7.3034"
[16,] "50% %  Hungarian  +  50% %  Serbia_far_south"                "7.3257"
[17,] "50% %  Croatian  +  50% %  Moldavian"                        "7.351" 
[18,] "50% %  Estonian_Polish  +  50% %  Greek_Thessaly"            "7.4659"
[19,] "50% %  Moldavian  +  50% %  Serb_Germanic_shifted"           "7.7578"
[20,] "50% %  Romanian  +  50% %  Ukrainian_Lviv"                   "7.8458"

Slavic shifted Serb with a bit more west Med blood.
Nice results. Thanks!

EDIT: We have quite similar mixed mode oracles.

**vbnetkhio** · 04-19-2020, 08:44 PM

from kits with confirmed ancestry only:

samples	populaton	North_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	Northeast_African	Sub_Saharan

131	Serb (without Montenegrins)	25.07	29.92	17.03	8.75	15.35	1.59	0.48	0.29	0.67	0.43	0.30	0.08	0.04
58	Serb_Croatia	25.17	29.66	17.32	8.73	15.33	1.64	0.49	0.29	0.56	0.39	0.29	0.08	0.04
22	Serb_B&H	25.30	30.82	16.62	8.39	14.73	1.89	0.35	0.32	0.75	0.43	0.35	0.06	0.02
29	Serb_Serbia	24.62	29.72	16.84	8.78	16.34	1.32	0.52	0.30	0.66	0.49	0.27	0.05	0.04

20	Montenegrin	24.50	25.37	18.42	10.26	17.24	2.30	0.15	0.23	0.79	0.39	0.26	0.02	0.06

Code:

Serb,25.07,29.92,17.03,8.75,15.35,1.59,0.48,0.29,0.67,0.43,0.30,0.08,0.04
Serb_Croatia,25.17,29.66,17.32,8.73,15.33,1.64,0.49,0.29,0.56,0.39,0.29,0.08,0.04
Serb_B&H,25.30,30.82,16.62,8.39,14.73,1.89,0.35,0.32,0.75,0.43,0.35,0.06,0.02
Serb_Serbia,24.62,29.72,16.84,8.78,16.34,1.32,0.52,0.30,0.66,0.49,0.27,0.05,0.04
Montenegrin,24.50,25.37,18.42,10.26,17.24,2.30,0.15,0.23,0.79,0.39,0.26,0.02,0.06