So Celts were North Europeans after all?

**brennus dux gallorum** · 04-17-2020, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Draug

Then finally they might let go off their fantasy of being descending from Spaniards?

Do you realize that "spaniards" as a nation did not exist in bronze age?

**Tauromachos** · 04-17-2020, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum

Do you realize that "spaniards" as a nation did not exist in bronze age?

Castilllians do exist since the Stone Age

**brennus dux gallorum** · 04-17-2020, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by SuperDorian

Castilllians do exist since the Stone Age

in fact they pre-dated neanderthals

**brennus dux gallorum** · 04-17-2020, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by ninjaboy

At first, the Romans couldn't tell the Celts and Germanic people apart and often confused them for each other. Only later they found out that Celts and Germanic people were distinct ethnic groups and they started to differentiate between the two. The fact is that both were described as tall, very pale, light-haired and- blue-eyed people. Anyways, who would have thought that the Celts originated in Germany/Austria while ALL Germanic tribes originated in Scandivanivia to move from there to Germany?

not all Celts were described as pale, for example if i am not mistaken those who lived in southern England and wales were described as dark

anyway, you, as everyone here make the mistake to see Celts as a racial group instead of linguo-cultural which they really were, and as a linguocultural group they were originated from the same subclade with Italics, just like Germanics came from the same subclade with Balto-slavs

**J. Ketch** · 04-17-2020, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by Raizen

clearly they weren't descended from the aforementioned populations.

That's a bold statement.

**Raizen** · 04-17-2020, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Creoda

That's a bold statement.

i mean, the ones you cited and the ones posted by brás garcias de mascarenhas are bronze age samples. there were no celts during the bronze age. clearly these iron age samples aren't descended from these basque-like bronze age people.

**Sheva** · 04-17-2020, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum

Do you realize that "spaniards" as a nation did not exist in bronze age?

Good grief, the same people. Genes do not magically transform with rise of a nation. Were the people located in the territories of what became Spain radically different?
Or is quarreling for the sake of it a favorite pastime on this forum?

**brennus dux gallorum** · 04-17-2020, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Draug

Good grief, the same people. Genes do not magically transform with rise of a nation. Were the people located in the territories of what became Spain radically different?
Or is quarreling for the sake of it a favorite pastime on this forum?

With only problem being that "celtic genes" is something that doesn't exist, except if we talk about proto-celts.

Celts were a linguocultural, not a racial group, and racially the celts who lived in Spain were southern European, just like those who lived in Britain were Northern European

But linguoculturally all celts were from the same subclade with Italics, which was different from the subclades that germans and Balto-slavs made up

**J. Ketch** · 04-17-2020, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Raizen

i mean, the ones you cited and the ones posted by brás garcias de mascarenhas are bronze age samples. there were no celts during the bronze age. clearly these iron age samples aren't descended from these basque-like bronze age people.

I don't know where you got the information that they're all Early Bronze Age, but the ones on the North Euro PCA are mostly French like, not Basque.

Closest modern populations

Code:

Distance to:	St_Gallen:SX20
0.02962418	Spanish_Barcelones
0.03088535	French_Occitanie
0.03111555	French_Auvergne
0.03197608	Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.03291915	Basque_French
0.03300421	French_South
0.03484421	Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.03543462	Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03629089	Spanish_Lleida
0.03654432	Spanish_Pirineu
0.03657065	Spanish_Cantabria
0.03682866	Spanish_Aragon
0.03689219	Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03696268	Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03747817	Spanish_Penedes
0.03768521	Spanish_Valencia
0.03780898	Swiss_German
0.03781292	Spanish_Cataluna
0.03788158	Spanish_Girona
0.03884917	Swiss_French
0.03936236	Spanish_Navarra
0.04042572	French_Paris
0.04063183	Spanish_Mallorca
0.04078563	French_Alsace
0.04080754	Spanish_Menorca

Distance to:	Constance:MX288
0.02803595	French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03083126	French_Brittany
0.03226829	Welsh
0.03365536	Belgian
0.03386533	German
0.03455477	English
0.03524208	French_Nord
0.03531194	English_Cornwall
0.03547364	French_Paris
0.03597856	Dutch
0.03637184	Afrikaner
0.03740782	Scottish
0.03747238	Orcadian
0.03769526	French_Alsace
0.03904193	Swiss_German
0.03918642	Irish
0.03942022	French_Occitanie
0.03956136	French_Seine-Maritime
0.04058490	Norwegian
0.04090187	Austrian
0.04090947	Danish
0.04220673	Icelandic
0.04266048	Swedish
0.04378610	Shetlandic
0.04389883	French_Auvergne

Distance to:	Constance:MX286
0.03509933	French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03631098	French_Occitanie
0.03674378	French_Paris
0.03750768	Swiss_French
0.03787910	French_Auvergne
0.03897932	French_Nord
0.03925783	Belgian
0.03950400	Swiss_German
0.04126165	French_Alsace
0.04275229	French_Brittany
0.04352278	Spanish_Soria
0.04408552	French_Seine-Maritime
0.04414478	Spanish_Penedes
0.04466215	French_Provence
0.04491353	Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.04501119	Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04540743	Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04575465	Afrikaner
0.04640170	Spanish_Girona
0.04691225	Welsh
0.04694450	German
0.04760088	French_South
0.04813775	Spanish_Lleida
0.04854709	Spanish_Castello
0.04881681	Spanish_Mallorca

Distance to:	Constance:MX283
0.03230589	Spanish_Soria
0.03981424	French_Auvergne
0.03988847	French_Occitanie
0.04058295	French_South
0.04108385	Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.04109183	Spanish_Castello
0.04238192	Spanish_Girona
0.04344088	Spanish_Penedes
0.04357718	Spanish_Pirineu
0.04367458	Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04370804	Swiss_French
0.04373152	Spanish_Cantabria
0.04483558	Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04491178	Spanish_Cataluna
0.04500153	Spanish_La_Rioja
0.04501239	Spanish_Barcelones
0.04516028	Spanish_Lleida
0.04530823	French_Paris
0.04594034	Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04600792	Spanish_Mallorca
0.04695622	Spanish_Baleares
0.04780595	Basque_Spanish
0.04839098	French_Provence
0.04846419	Spanish_Valencia
0.04852166	French_Pas-de-Calais

Distance to:	Constance:MX279
0.03559744	French_Brittany
0.03697281	French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03817387	Welsh
0.03890740	German
0.03909598	English
0.03980417	Orcadian
0.04009753	Belgian
0.04023323	Scottish
0.04060928	Irish
0.04128048	Dutch
0.04137305	French_Paris
0.04151491	English_Cornwall
0.04228042	French_Nord
0.04229089	Norwegian
0.04230891	French_Seine-Maritime
0.04290342	Afrikaner
0.04476497	Icelandic
0.04551239	French_Alsace
0.04568793	Austrian
0.04573442	Shetlandic
0.04632743	Swiss_German
0.04648867	Danish
0.04834292	Swedish
0.05030287	French_Occitanie
0.05192864	German_East

Distance to:	Constance:MX275
0.04154491	French_Occitanie
0.04172188	French_Paris
0.04186804	Belgian
0.04245748	French_Nord
0.04291958	French_Brittany
0.04293117	Swiss_German
0.04462638	French_Auvergne
0.04493266	French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04532147	Afrikaner
0.04597418	French_Alsace
0.04645036	Welsh
0.04684180	Swiss_French
0.04693606	French_Seine-Maritime
0.04907027	English
0.04917641	English_Cornwall
0.04942325	Orcadian
0.05018261	Spanish_Penedes
0.05059625	Scottish
0.05125731	German
0.05130226	French_South
0.05161571	Irish
0.05205530	French_Provence
0.05260661	Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.05304746	Spanish_Girona
0.05317586	Dutch

Distance to:	Constance:MX265
0.03969155	Serbian
0.03976922	Croatian
0.04022650	Slovenian
0.04250646	Bosnian
0.04304069	Austrian
0.04336393	Hungarian
0.04476266	Montenegrin
0.04493139	Romanian
0.04566084	French_Alsace
0.04699986	Swiss_German
0.04763326	Italian_Northeast
0.04810671	Macedonian
0.04859118	French_Nord
0.04911344	German_East
0.05070030	French_Auvergne
0.05089369	Bulgarian
0.05114871	German
0.05127880	French_Occitanie
0.05273871	Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.05321329	French_Seine-Maritime
0.05323399	Belgian
0.05359229	Czech
0.05502545	Moldovan
0.05510203	French_Provence
0.05576015	Spanish_Barcelones

Distance to:	Constance:MX257
0.03452833	French_Nord
0.03485311	Afrikaner
0.03489344	Belgian
0.03616876	Swiss_German
0.03777170	French_Brittany
0.03800962	French_Paris
0.03843301	French_Alsace
0.03960965	French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04026371	Welsh
0.04026807	French_Occitanie
0.04046330	German
0.04126861	French_Seine-Maritime
0.04149055	Orcadian
0.04229889	English_Cornwall
0.04231016	French_Auvergne
0.04242371	English
0.04251794	Scottish
0.04278253	Dutch
0.04367909	Austrian
0.04485161	Swiss_French
0.04502428	Irish
0.04680492	Danish
0.04811281	Shetlandic
0.04931205	French_Provence
0.04968622	Spanish_Penedes

Distance to:	Constance:MX254_2
0.03464891	French_Occitanie
0.03505670	French_Auvergne
0.03540269	Spanish_Soria
0.03686544	Swiss_French
0.03715282	French_Paris
0.03914016	French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03991851	Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.04038952	French_Nord
0.04044978	Swiss_German
0.04088626	Spanish_Penedes
0.04124982	Spanish_Girona
0.04142974	Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04170260	French_Alsace
0.04173687	Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04206262	Belgian
0.04243459	French_South
0.04250244	French_Provence
0.04297874	Spanish_Castello
0.04365573	Spanish_Pirineu
0.04396880	Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04420092	Spanish_Mallorca
0.04438978	Spanish_Lleida
0.04467872	Spanish_Cantabria
0.04474864	Spanish_Barcelones
0.04633059	Spanish_Baleares

Distance to:	Constance:MX252
0.02867450	French_Brittany
0.02899975	French_Pas-de-Calais
0.02930563	French_Nord
0.03000764	Belgian
0.03186998	Afrikaner
0.03218271	Welsh
0.03246593	French_Paris
0.03316263	English
0.03337684	French_Alsace
0.03370685	English_Cornwall
0.03421264	Orcadian
0.03429417	Swiss_German
0.03547890	German
0.03559760	French_Occitanie
0.03603756	Scottish
0.03778936	French_Seine-Maritime
0.03779164	Dutch
0.03782317	Irish
0.03964841	French_Auvergne
0.04251057	Austrian
0.04339650	Danish
0.04385303	Icelandic
0.04431416	Swiss_French
0.04473173	Norwegian
0.04491427	Shetlandic

Distance to:	Basel_Landschaft:SNPRA64
0.03799296	Afrikaner
0.03833179	Dutch
0.04002283	Norwegian
0.04041198	Scottish
0.04065106	Irish
0.04066353	Welsh
0.04077529	Orcadian
0.04112688	French_Brittany
0.04180686	English
0.04347671	Icelandic
0.04351275	German
0.04391962	Danish
0.04455331	Shetlandic
0.04467514	English_Cornwall
0.04563719	Swedish
0.04609869	French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04635170	Belgian
0.04931600	French_Nord
0.05001031	Austrian
0.05106244	French_Seine-Maritime
0.05193586	French_Paris
0.05267469	French_Alsace
0.05391377	Swiss_German
0.05629058	Czech
0.05671703	German_East

Distance to:	Basel_Landschaft:SNPRA63
0.04214376	French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04385189	French_Paris
0.04495073	Belgian
0.04524909	Spanish_Soria
0.04573382	French_Occitanie
0.04617452	French_Nord
0.04632616	French_Brittany
0.04684478	French_Auvergne
0.04716852	Swiss_German
0.04735093	Swiss_French
0.04828434	Afrikaner
0.04895322	French_Alsace
0.05016951	Welsh
0.05096162	Spanish_Penedes
0.05111527	French_Seine-Maritime
0.05227525	Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.05303119	Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.05335623	German
0.05336671	French_Provence
0.05337996	English_Cornwall
0.05351699	Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.05354011	Spanish_Girona
0.05378487	English
0.05475218	French_South
0.05483078	Dutch

Distance to:	Basel_Landschaft:Aesch25
0.06993801	Icelandic
0.07070471	Swedish
0.07173822	Norwegian
0.07280312	Finnish
0.07425575	Shetlandic
0.07571393	Irish
0.07606833	Ingrian
0.07678251	Orcadian
0.07682608	Dutch
0.07696303	Danish
0.07707809	Scottish
0.07980351	Russian_Tver
0.08026368	Russian_Kostroma
0.08058397	Russian_Kursk
0.08223169	English
0.08226220	Russian_Orel
0.08241756	German_East
0.08252992	Mordovian
0.08278382	Estonian
0.08312881	Czech
0.08316832	Welsh
0.08351456	Finnish_East
0.08361867	Polish
0.08422633	Cossack_Kuban
0.08427535	Moldovan_o

Distance to:	Alsace:SX32
0.05203173	Norwegian
0.05278465	Swedish
0.05375439	Icelandic
0.05501683	Dutch
0.05619559	Irish
0.05626544	Danish
0.05723584	Scottish
0.05734577	Orcadian
0.05751033	Welsh
0.05803385	German
0.05835849	Shetlandic
0.05897453	English
0.05924862	Afrikaner
0.05930444	Slovakian
0.05985346	French_Brittany
0.06092336	Czech
0.06221253	Austrian
0.06262443	English_Cornwall
0.06351124	German_East
0.06480983	French_Pas-de-Calais
0.06635193	Hungarian
0.06646442	Moldovan_o
0.06671820	Belgian
0.06688318	French_Seine-Maritime
0.06949221	French_Nord

Closest ancient populations

Code:

Distance to:	St_Gallen:SX20
0.02983132	Iberia_North_IA
0.03306066	ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.03714842	Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.04296964	ITA_Rome_Renaissance
0.04336043	Bell_Beaker_CHE
0.04355727	DEU_Roman
0.04376282	ITA_Collegno_MA
0.04462269	DEU_Lech_MBA
0.04525729	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1
0.04545491	CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.04576462	Iberia_Central_CA_Stp
0.04580784	Iberia_East_IA
0.04627833	ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.04691385	Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.04716263	Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
0.04783207	DEU_Lech_BBC
0.04814215	Scythian_HUN
0.04835893	ITA_Etruscan
0.04852996	Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE
0.04854718	Iberia_Mallorca_EBA
0.04926374	TZA_Zanzibar_Euro_outlier
0.05020003	Levant_LBN_MA_o2
0.05022880	HUN_MA_Szolad
0.05049328	Iberia_Menorca_LBA
0.05129977	DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3

Distance to:	Constance:MX288
0.02880168	DEU_Lech_EBA
0.02958360	Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
0.02991684	Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
0.03160777	Bell_Beaker_CZE
0.03220701	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1
0.03312345	Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.03317076	Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale
0.03427474	Levant_LBN_MA_o2
0.03446687	Iberia_Central_CA_Stp
0.03464767	England_IA
0.03476842	CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.03511117	SWE_Megalithic_Olljso
0.03684276	DEU_Lech_BBC
0.03685537	HUN_MA_Szolad
0.03687212	ISL_Viking_Age_Early_Christian
0.03710195	Bell_Beaker_POL
0.03773385	England_Roman
0.03792535	Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.03860684	Scotland_MBA
0.03866332	ITA_Collegno_MA
0.04044924	England_Saxon
0.04111110	England_MBA
0.04191987	DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3
0.04199813	DEU_Halberstadt_LBA
0.04209998	ITA_Rome_Renaissance

Distance to:	Constance:MX286
0.02899260	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1
0.03223634	DEU_Lech_EBA
0.03315930	Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.03392536	Iberia_Central_CA_Stp
0.03503416	Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
0.03573751	Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
0.03797461	DEU_Lech_BBC
0.03844324	ITA_Rome_Renaissance
0.03862158	Bell_Beaker_CHE
0.04013954	Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.04024328	HUN_MA_Szolad
0.04037878	Bell_Beaker_CZE
0.04318997	Levant_LBN_MA_o2
0.04363703	DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3
0.04393319	ITA_Collegno_MA
0.04600622	Bell_Beaker_POL
0.04615748	CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.04661711	Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale
0.04697973	ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.04698020	Scythian_HUN
0.04815744	Iberia_Northeast_RomP
0.04820404	England_IA
0.04833146	Iberia_Northwest_CA_Stp
0.04893509	Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.04901189	ISL_Viking_Age_Early_Christian

Distance to:	Constance:MX283
0.03293278	Iberia_Northeast_RomP
0.03400509	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1
0.03584375	Iberia_Central_CA_Stp
0.03921559	Iberia_Mallorca_EBA
0.04025054	Iberia_East_IA
0.04159340	DEU_Roman
0.04313833	ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.04321458	Iberia_North_IA
0.04382837	Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.04438431	DEU_Lech_EBA
0.04598191	Scythian_HUN
0.04629300	Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.04657793	DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3
0.04660060	Bell_Beaker_CHE
0.04705778	Levant_LBN_MA_o6
0.04707784	DEU_Lech_BBC
0.04748602	Iberia_Northwest_CA_Stp
0.04841298	Iberia_Northeast_BA
0.04852268	Iberia_North_BA
0.04859269	CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.04896763	DEU_Lech_MBA
0.04902221	Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
0.04924452	Iberia_Menorca_LBA
0.05071721	ITA_Rome_Renaissance
0.05098784	Iberia_Formentera_MBA

Distance to:	Constance:MX279
0.03060598	Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
0.03172088	DEU_Lech_EBA
0.03202649	England_IA
0.03366105	Bell_Beaker_CZE
0.03401716	DEU_Lech_BBC
0.03530704	Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
0.03632372	Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale
0.03744404	DEU_Alberstedt_LN
0.03758098	Scotland_MBA
0.03786429	Scotland_CA_EBA
0.03955140	SVK_Poprad_MA
0.03970668	England_MBA
0.03983085	England_Saxon
0.04010494	Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.04015744	Bell_Beaker_POL
0.04026584	SWE_Megalithic_Olljso
0.04071318	DEU_Halberstadt_LBA
0.04071575	HUN_MA_Szolad
0.04094838	England_Roman
0.04143395	Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.04188155	ISL_Viking_Age_Early_Christian
0.04290407	Scythian_MDA_o
0.04313915	ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian
0.04334874	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1
0.04335328	England_CA_EBA

Distance to:	Constance:MX275
0.03255095	Iberia_Central_CA_Stp
0.03346974	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1
0.03563921	DEU_Lech_BBC
0.03611511	Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
0.03765763	Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
0.03770571	DEU_Lech_EBA
0.03777814	Bell_Beaker_CHE
0.03971882	Bell_Beaker_CZE
0.04273038	Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.04291577	Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.04403833	Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale
0.04423544	Bell_Beaker_POL
0.04443532	HUN_MA_Szolad
0.04470616	ITA_Rome_Renaissance
0.04514966	ITA_Collegno_MA
0.04550861	Levant_LBN_MA_o2
0.04849383	England_IA
0.04851262	DEU_Alberstedt_LN
0.04896048	DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3
0.04908036	Scotland_LBA
0.04915283	England_Roman
0.04943718	Scotland_MBA
0.04988174	CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05045447	ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.05066606	England_MBA

Distance to:	Constance:MX265
0.03542273	Scythian_HUN
0.04869404	ITA_Rome_Renaissance
0.04885430	HUN_LBA
0.05079788	CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05094438	HUN_MA_Szolad
0.05113236	Bell_Beaker_CHE
0.05127409	ITA_Collegno_MA
0.05158151	Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.05361976	Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.05428776	DEU_Lech_BBC
0.05592452	Levant_LBN_MA_o2
0.05654290	HUN_MA
0.05681799	Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.05688985	DEU_Lech_MBA
0.05707164	ITA_Proto-Villanovan
0.05709882	DEU_MA_ACD
0.05856957	Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
0.05965355	DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3
0.05977254	DEU_Lech_EBA
0.05995948	DEU_Roman
0.06035096	Bell_Beaker_CZE
0.06166494	Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
0.06247493	DEU_MA
0.06258861	Iberia_North_IA
0.06277054	CZE_Early_Slav

Distance to:	Constance:MX257
0.03164986	Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
0.03359787	DEU_Lech_EBA
0.03372523	Bell_Beaker_CZE
0.03458048	Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.03464499	DEU_Lech_BBC
0.03519844	HUN_MA_Szolad
0.03729042	Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale
0.03772570	Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
0.03780823	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1
0.03844677	ITA_Collegno_MA
0.03894627	ITA_Rome_Renaissance
0.03897041	Bell_Beaker_CHE
0.03898061	Levant_LBN_MA_o2
0.03953788	Bell_Beaker_POL
0.04005445	Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.04071752	England_Roman
0.04081941	DEU_Alberstedt_LN
0.04095804	England_IA
0.04206274	HUN_MA
0.04280818	CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.04369934	Scotland_MBA
0.04455537	Iberia_Central_CA_Stp
0.04531871	England_MBA
0.04582787	Scotland_LBA
0.04670322	ISL_Viking_Age_Early_Christian

Distance to:	Constance:MX254_2
0.02748222	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1
0.03384143	Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.03404461	Iberia_Central_CA_Stp
0.03485524	DEU_Lech_EBA
0.03770529	Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
0.03832019	Bell_Beaker_CHE
0.03996790	DEU_Lech_BBC
0.04040788	Scythian_HUN
0.04169987	Iberia_Northeast_RomP
0.04171188	Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
0.04216712	ITA_Rome_Renaissance
0.04296143	DEU_Roman
0.04311850	ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.04327025	DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3
0.04405775	Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.04406950	HUN_MA_Szolad
0.04476670	Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.04506512	CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.04661213	Bell_Beaker_CZE
0.04667230	Iberia_North_IA
0.04732083	HUN_MA
0.04734342	Levant_LBN_MA_o6
0.04795398	DEU_Lech_MBA
0.04824264	Iberia_Mallorca_EBA
0.04842968	ITA_Collegno_MA

Distance to:	Constance:MX252
0.02657625	Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
0.02744859	DEU_Lech_BBC
0.02888263	DEU_Lech_EBA
0.02911688	Bell_Beaker_CZE
0.02951410	Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
0.03142429	Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale
0.03301108	HUN_MA_Szolad
0.03402757	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1
0.03412701	ITA_Collegno_MA
0.03453312	Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.03470573	DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3
0.03506770	Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.03518710	England_Roman
0.03535818	England_IA
0.03703436	Bell_Beaker_CHE
0.03774570	Levant_LBN_MA_o2
0.03789653	Bell_Beaker_POL
0.03794584	ITA_Rome_Renaissance
0.03849152	SWE_Megalithic_Olljso
0.03878559	Scotland_CA_EBA
0.03959615	Iberia_Central_CA_Stp
0.03966396	England_MBA
0.04065901	CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.04081834	DEU_Alberstedt_LN
0.04152064	Scotland_LBA

Distance to:	Basel_Landschaft:SNPRA64
0.02818063	Scotland_CA_EBA
0.02820945	England_IA
0.02876678	DEU_Halberstadt_LBA
0.02881185	Bell_Beaker_FRA
0.02937394	Bell_Beaker_CZE
0.02947692	Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale
0.02976406	England_CA_EBA
0.03014559	Bell_Beaker_POL
0.03026153	Scotland_MBA
0.03127756	DNK_MN_B
0.03137907	Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
0.03154808	England_MBA
0.03227903	DEU_Alberstedt_LN
0.03371557	IRL_BA
0.03374856	SWE_Megalithic_Olljso
0.03456345	England_LBA
0.03475651	Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.03481135	NLD_BA
0.03501009	DNK_LN
0.03547121	England_Saxon
0.03583488	Scythian_MDA_o
0.03598153	ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian
0.03673016	DEU_Unetice_EBA
0.03692365	Bell_Beaker_England
0.03724869	CZE_EBA

Distance to:	Basel_Landschaft:SNPRA63
0.03469585	DEU_Lech_EBA
0.03730217	Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1
0.03735921	Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
0.04027281	Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
0.04212112	Bell_Beaker_CHE
0.04348337	Iberia_Central_CA_Stp
0.04364320	Bell_Beaker_CZE
0.04392996	Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.04397713	Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.04451788	DEU_Lech_BBC
0.04749289	England_IA
0.04788724	HUN_MA_Szolad
0.04894958	SVK_Poprad_MA
0.04928025	Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale
0.04944545	DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3
0.04970316	ITA_Rome_Renaissance
0.04975358	Bell_Beaker_POL
0.05071739	Scotland_MBA
0.05091948	DEU_Halberstadt_LBA
0.05159235	Iberia_Northwest_CA_Stp
0.05222343	ITA_Collegno_MA
0.05262258	Iberia_Northeast_RomP
0.05295771	Scotland_CA_EBA
0.05320187	ISL_Viking_Age_Early_Christian
0.05374278	DNK_LN

Distance to:	Basel_Landschaft:Aesch25
0.02319568	RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA
0.02494720	RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA
0.02595202	Corded_Ware_DEU
0.02623105	RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
0.02855520	Corded_Ware_CZE
0.02893607	KAZ_Aktogai_MLBA
0.02982545	KAZ_Chanchar_LBA
0.03157967	RUS_Krasnoyarsk_MLBA
0.03173934	KAZ_Maitan_MLBA_Alakul
0.03215099	KAZ_Kairan_MLBA
0.03244667	KAZ_Karagash_MLBA
0.03255886	BGR_MLBA
0.03325164	KAZ_Kyzlbulak_MLBA1
0.03449200	UZB_Kashkarchi_BA
0.03467709	KAZ_Lisakovskiy_MLBA_Alakul
0.03552451	RUS_Poltavka_o
0.03740282	KAZ_Taldysay_MLBA1
0.03754598	POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.03784358	KAZ_Solyanka_MLBA
0.03874109	KAZ_Mys_MLBA
0.03913496	UKR_Sredny_Stog_En_o4
0.03959102	KAZ_Shoendykol_MLBA_Fedorovo
0.03970918	UZB_Kokcha_BA
0.04168389	KAZ_Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA
0.04196389	KAZ_Georgievsky_LBA

Distance to:	Alsace:SX32
0.03314044	Scythian_MDA_o
0.03396359	Bell_Beaker_FRA
0.03461773	DEU_Halberstadt_LBA
0.03730521	NLD_BA
0.03744346	CZE_EBA
0.03851642	DNK_LN
0.03887085	England_CA_EBA
0.03897059	Scotland_MBA
0.03955396	Scotland_CA_EBA
0.03956758	Bell_Beaker_NLD
0.03993640	POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.04013824	DEU_Unetice_EBA
0.04026409	Bell_Beaker_England
0.04047459	SWE_LN
0.04135591	Bell_Beaker_POL
0.04350174	IRL_BA
0.04360472	Bell_Beaker_Rhine-Main
0.04421115	SWE_Megalithic_Olljso
0.04421563	England_IA
0.04428159	Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale
0.04428208	ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian
0.04451972	England_MBA
0.04461023	DNK_MN_B
0.04483423	CZE_Unetice_EBA
0.04502461	CZE_Bilina_BA

Celts didn't materialise out of thin air, they would have almost certainly been mostly a continuation of the people from the same area/s in the Bronze Age, and Proto-Celtic existed in the LBA. Ancient samples so far suggest a French-like genetic profile had already developed in Bronze Age Central Western Europe. The samples in the OP would be a quite a departure from that, if they were indeed Iron Age.

Code:

Distance to:	DEU_Lech_EBA
0.02264165	French_Pas-de-Calais
0.02347948	Belgian
0.02403917	French_Nord
0.02580453	French_Brittany
0.02615344	French_Paris
0.02702302	French_Alsace
0.02707452	Swiss_German
0.02899132	German
0.02902555	Afrikaner
0.02989720	Welsh
0.03161234	French_Seine-Maritime
0.03228871	French_Occitanie
0.03274724	English
0.03295852	Austrian
0.03354243	English_Cornwall
0.03431761	Swiss_French
0.03449853	French_Auvergne
0.03459784	Dutch
0.03545138	Scottish
0.03587274	Orcadian
0.03708521	Irish
0.03999336	Danish
0.04076622	Shetlandic
0.04132257	Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04150015	French_Provence

Code:

Distance to:	CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.03516374	French_Nord
0.03563729	French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03706400	French_Occitanie
0.03712202	German
0.03717849	French_Alsace
0.03789837	French_Paris
0.03797138	Belgian
0.03847557	French_Brittany
0.03975828	Swiss_German
0.03995990	Austrian
0.04053974	French_Auvergne
0.04088379	English_Cornwall
0.04119886	Welsh
0.04175909	English
0.04182437	Afrikaner
0.04341866	Orcadian
0.04425152	German_East
0.04447228	Dutch
0.04452922	French_Seine-Maritime
0.04483823	Scottish
0.04641699	Danish
0.04750609	French_South
0.04761147	Hungarian
0.04839793	Slovenian
0.04850793	Spanish_Barcelones

Code:

Distance to:	Bell_Beaker_CHE
0.02573222	French_Auvergne
0.02667249	French_Occitanie
0.02810113	Swiss_German
0.02844153	Swiss_French
0.02886573	Spanish_Penedes
0.02891363	Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03102337	French_Nord
0.03244797	French_Alsace
0.03259581	French_Provence
0.03276224	Spanish_Girona
0.03315350	Spanish_Lleida
0.03376662	French_Paris
0.03384515	Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.03401968	Spanish_Mallorca
0.03447173	Spanish_Barcelones
0.03465609	Belgian
0.03508929	Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03526661	Spanish_Cataluna
0.03539327	Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03588166	Spanish_Pirineu
0.03618790	Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03695781	French_South
0.03696393	Spanish_Valencia
0.03727343	French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03741468	Spanish_Castello