Dodecad k12b south, west and central asian results

[Mejgusu]

Yes but this happened much later. If everyone would have integrated they wouldn't went into Anatolia. I think he is referring to the beginning of the Steppe migrations into Khwarezmia and Khorasan.

I really dont know, i just know they came to persia.

But I too dont see the big issue. Only people who would have problems with it would be Farmers and Iranian nomads. Iran doesn't have too much land for too many Pastoralists/Nomads I think that's why most went further to the West, some stayed in Northwest.

Many times i read and heard that were a big issue in seljuk state. Probably there were disputes about lands or pasture area.

Btw, have we results of naxcivan azerbaijanis? Ive seen a documentary today, they dont look very different from other, some really looked central asian, like uzbeks or turkmens?

[Kyp]

Btw, have we results of naxcivan azerbaijanis? Ive seen a documentary today, they dont look very different from other, some really looked central asian, like uzbeks or turkmens?

No but four results from Qarabağ, who should be similar

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...aijani-Results

[Kyp]

Azerbaijani from Aghjabadi district:

Gedrosian: 19.94
Siberian: 2.26
Northwest_African: 2.47
Southeast_Asian: 1.89
Atlantic_Med: 8.21
North_European: 9.41
South_Asian 0.92
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.02
East_Asian: 4.27
Caucasian: 40.62
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Aghjabadi_District
3.60406715 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.53802821 Azerbaijani
4.63316307 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.32158208 Turk_Southeast
6.65610246 Turk_Central_East
7.54633686 Turk_South
7.56374246 Turk_East
7.60310463 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.62482787 Zaza
7.84224458 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.19728614 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.53196929 Turk_Anatolia
8.94394767 Turk_Central_West
9.05917215 Turkmen_Iraq
9.97332943 Kurd_Sorani
10.03894915 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.92190002 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.26313012 Turk_Southwest
11.27583700 Kurds
11.30816077 Kurd
11.48488137 Iranian
11.79811002 Armenian_East
12.06650322 Uzbekistan_Jews
12.06992958 Lur_Iran
12.07289940 Yoruk

Target: Azerbaijani_Aghjabadi_District
Distance: 1.5829% / 1.58290251 | ADC: 0.25x
79.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.6 Ingush
7.0 Turk_Ahiska
1.6 She
1.4 Mozabite
0.4 Kumyks

[Mejgusu]

No but four results from Qarabağ, who should be similar

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...aijani-Results

Thanks, look like regular azerbaijanis.

[Leto]

Azerbaijani from Aghjabadi district:

Gedrosian: 19.94
Siberian: 2.26
Northwest_African: 2.47
Southeast_Asian: 1.89
Atlantic_Med: 8.21
North_European: 9.41
South_Asian 0.92
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.02
East_Asian: 4.27
Caucasian: 40.62
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Aghjabadi_District
3.60406715 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.53802821 Azerbaijani
4.63316307 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.32158208 Turk_Southeast
6.65610246 Turk_Central_East
7.54633686 Turk_South
7.56374246 Turk_East
7.60310463 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.62482787 Zaza
7.84224458 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.19728614 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.53196929 Turk_Anatolia
8.94394767 Turk_Central_West
9.05917215 Turkmen_Iraq
9.97332943 Kurd_Sorani
10.03894915 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.92190002 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.26313012 Turk_Southwest
11.27583700 Kurds
11.30816077 Kurd
11.48488137 Iranian
11.79811002 Armenian_East
12.06650322 Uzbekistan_Jews
12.06992958 Lur_Iran
12.07289940 Yoruk

Target: Azerbaijani_Aghjabadi_District
Distance: 1.5829% / 1.58290251 | ADC: 0.25x
79.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.6 Ingush
7.0 Turk_Ahiska
1.6 She
1.4 Mozabite
0.4 Kumyks

Very low South Asian and "high" East Eurasian (8.4%).

[Kyp]

Very low South Asian and "high" East Eurasian (8.4%).

More Caucasian less Iranian, East Eurasian still looks normal

[Kyp]

Azerbaijani from Khachmaz (Xaçmaz) in the Northeast
Don't know if it's a repost

Gedrosian: 23.18
Siberian: 0.88
Northwest_African: 0.53
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 5.80
North_European: 13.44
South_Asian 1.02
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.16
East_Asian: 2.19
Caucasian: 41.79
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Khachmaz
5.51390062 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.18945060 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.20787763 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.40377606 Azerbaijani
7.43215312 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.64179298 Zaza
8.17979217 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.25437734 Kurds
9.43693276 Ingush
10.02664949 Kurd_Sorani
10.11867086 Iranian
10.13160895 Kurd
10.13939840 Turk_East
10.21825817 Turk_Southeast
10.73944133 Turkmen_Iraq
11.37817648 Turk_Central_East
11.40805417 Circassian
11.81033446 Lur_Iran
11.85611656 Kumyks
12.25765883 Turk_South
12.54567256 Iranian_Fars
12.71197074 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.80094918 Iran_Mazandaran
12.88695076 Uzbekistan_Jews
13.09915646 Turk_Anatolia

Target: Azerbaijani_Khachmaz
Distance: 1.5147% / 1.51468573 | ADC: 0.25x
71.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.6 Uzbekistan_Jews
6.8 Georgia_Jews
5.8 Zaza
5.0 Kurds
1.8 Yemen_Jews
0.4 Japanese

[Demhat]

I think most educated people view all ethnic groups in Iran positively, but there are exceptions
Average Persian-> Views Azeris positively, most other people indifferently or negatively
Iranicist Persian-> Views Kurds, Lurs etc as 'Iranic Brothers' views Azeris negatively
Ethnonationalist Persian->Views all minorities as a liability and extra baggage, thinks Persians are the only civilized Iranians
Average Kurd-> Probably Views Persians, Lurs positively and Azeris/Turks in general negatively
Iranicist Kurd-> Views Turks negatively, thinks Kurdish lands in Turkey etc should be part of Greater Iran
Nationalist Kurd-> Views Turks negatively, views Persians negatively for occupying their land
I'm not sure about Azeris, I have not really lived around many of them

I can guarantee you one thing, average Kurd does not view Azeris negatively. And despite acknowledging cultural similarities to Persians doesn't make a siginificant difference to Turks. In fact the average have a higher view of Afghans for being down to earth while Persians (much like Turks) are viewed as a little too "cocky". Azeris and Afghans are generally viewed better as being down to earth. It might be down to Turkeys and Irans numberous attempts of controlling the Middle East.

[Mejgusu]

Azerbaijani from Khachmaz (Xaçmaz) in the Northeast
Don't know if it's a repost

Gedrosian: 23.18
Siberian: 0.88
Northwest_African: 0.53
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 5.80
North_European: 13.44
South_Asian 1.02
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.16
East_Asian: 2.19
Caucasian: 41.79
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Khachmaz
5.51390062 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.18945060 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.20787763 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.40377606 Azerbaijani
7.43215312 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.64179298 Zaza
8.17979217 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.25437734 Kurds
9.43693276 Ingush
10.02664949 Kurd_Sorani
10.11867086 Iranian
10.13160895 Kurd
10.13939840 Turk_East
10.21825817 Turk_Southeast
10.73944133 Turkmen_Iraq
11.37817648 Turk_Central_East
11.40805417 Circassian
11.81033446 Lur_Iran
11.85611656 Kumyks
12.25765883 Turk_South
12.54567256 Iranian_Fars
12.71197074 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.80094918 Iran_Mazandaran
12.88695076 Uzbekistan_Jews
13.09915646 Turk_Anatolia

Target: Azerbaijani_Khachmaz
Distance: 1.5147% / 1.51468573 | ADC: 0.25x
71.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.6 Uzbekistan_Jews
6.8 Georgia_Jews
5.8 Zaza
5.0 Kurds
1.8 Yemen_Jews
0.4 Japanese

It seems that the less turkic azerbaijanis are those one of and of the near of dagestan. They are more caucasian shifted.

Very low South Asian and "high" East Eurasian (8.4%).

Azerbaijanis and Anatolian turks have most times nearly the same east asian admixture. Just anatolian turks are more western and azerbaijani turks are more iranian shifted. Western azerbaijanis and eastern A.turks are nearly the same, caucasian shifted turks. i believe there are many azerbaijanis who score 10-15% east asian, maybe more.

[Kyp]

Iraqi Turkmen from Kerkuk:

Gedrosian: 21.99
Siberian: 3.33
Northwest_African: 0.40
Southeast_Asian: 0.71
Atlantic_Med: 9.03
North_European: 6.37
South_Asian 2.72
East_African 1.21
Southwest_Asian: 15.66
East_Asian: 2.08
Caucasian: 36.47
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Iraq_Turkmen
3.81565198 Turkmen_Iraq
4.95122207 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.09987255 Kurd_Sorani
5.21442231 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.38088283 Azerbaijani
5.71615255 Turk_Southeast
6.66586078 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.93821303 Zaza
7.99421041 Lur_Iran
8.12739196 Iranian_Fars
8.33825521 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.03395262 Kurd
9.47429681 Iranian
9.75392741 Turk_Central_East
9.84308387 Kurds
9.89100602 Turk_South
10.37450240 Iranians
10.52836644 Iran_Central_East
10.54525012 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.14997758 Turk_Central_West
11.15947131 Turk_East
11.21524409 Turk_Anatolia
11.35791354 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.49475968 Iran_Khorasan
13.40533103 Turk_Southwest

Target: Iraq_Turkmen
Distance: 1.0078% / 1.00777241 | ADC: 0.25x
77.2 Turkmen_Iraq
10.4 Turk_Southeast
8.2 Iran_Central_East
2.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
1.4 Nganassan
0.4 Ket
0.2 French_Basque
0.2 Pais_Vasco