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    Vlatko Vukovic's updated oracle. He is still the best South Slav to me in terms of genetics (high Northeastern, low Wog, a bit of Asian)

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 35.4
    2 North_Atlantic 24.46
    3 West_Med 15.36
    4 East_Med 11.96
    5 West_Asian 8.24
    6 Red_Sea 2.09
    7 Siberian 1.61
    8 Amerindian 0.89

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Moldavian 3.03
    2 Croatian 3.83
    3 Hungarian 8.25
    4 Serbian 8.36
    5 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.17
    6 Ukrainian 10.34
    7 South_Polish 10.47
    8 Romanian 11.43
    9 Austrian 12.7
    10 East_German 12.82
    11 Bulgarian 13.13
    12 Southwest_Russian 13.46
    13 Polish 13.62
    14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.88
    15 Russian_Smolensk 15.34
    16 Estonian_Polish 15.76
    17 Belorussian 16.52
    18 Kargopol_Russian 17.45
    19 Erzya 18.85
    20 Tatar 19.45

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 73.9% Ukrainian + 26.1% Central_Greek @ 1.78
    2 68.1% Ukrainian + 31.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.83
    3 74.7% Ukrainian + 25.3% East_Sicilian @ 1.86
    4 76.5% Ukrainian + 23.5% South_Italian @ 1.89
    5 56.1% Ukrainian + 43.9% Bulgarian @ 1.94
    6 59.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 40.8% Bulgarian @ 2.03
    7 54.7% Bulgarian + 45.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.06
    8 70.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 29.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.13
    9 79% Ukrainian + 21% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.2
    10 61.6% Bulgarian + 38.4% Lithuanian @ 2.29
    11 54% Bulgarian + 46% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.29
    12 79.2% Ukrainian + 20.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.31
    13 58.2% Romanian + 41.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.34
    14 76.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 23.6% Central_Greek @ 2.34
    15 78.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 21.1% South_Italian @ 2.36
    16 79.2% Ukrainian + 20.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.39
    17 81.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 18.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.4
    18 81.1% Ukrainian + 18.9% Cyprian @ 2.41
    19 52.6% Ukrainian + 47.4% Romanian @ 2.42
    20 77.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.8% East_Sicilian @ 2.45


    Distance to: VV
    3.01907271 Moldova_North
    3.33019519 Moldavian
    4.30870050 Croatian
    4.42178697 Szekely_Hungarian
    5.32267790 Bosniak
    5.53089505 Serb_B&H
    6.10770824 Serb_Krajina
    6.24895991 Serb_Croatia
    7.09570293 Serb_Serbia
    7.34293538 Serb_Dalmatia
    7.42841841 Serb
    8.08761399 Moldova_Centre
    8.62135140 Romania_Moldavia_North
    9.41158329 Romania_Moldavia_average
    9.43913132 Hungarian
    9.45903801 Serbian
    9.48450315 Moldova_average
    9.86540927 Serb_Shopluk
    10.34146508 Romania_Moldavia_South
    10.47053007 Ukrainian_Lviv

    Target: VV
    Distance: 2.5394% / 2.53935113 | ADC: 0.5x
    69.2 Moldova_North
    14.4 Moldavian
    8.4 Serb_B&H
    3.6 Southwest_Russian
    3.0 Croatian
    1.4 Erzya

    Target: VV
    Distance: 1.4999% / 1.49992527 | ADC: 0.25x
    56.2 Serb_B&H
    21.6 Croatian
    12.2 Erzya
    9.2 Moldova_North
    0.8 Moldavian
    Last edited by Leto; 04-20-2020 at 09:44 AM. Reason: Fixed the spreadsheet

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    Nothing special about him. I have 30-40 Croats with similar genetic profile.
    And you should stop using that horiffic outdated Oracles.

    Btw Bosniak Tuzla is not good, just like Romanian_Botosani (1 person)
    Use these

    Serb_B&H,24.73,31.02,16.87,8.63,14.66,1.72,0.44,0.32,0.66 ,0.50,0.34,0.09,0.01
    Serb_Croatia,25.17,30.44,16.79,9.03,14.86,1.33,0.7 2,0.32,0.54,0.30,0.41,0.07,0.02
    Serb_Krajina,25.57,30.44,16.72,8.68,14.61,1.55,0.6 5,0.36,0.60,0.31,0.45,0.04,0.02
    Montenegrin,25.00,25.68,18.39,9.99,16.90,1.95,0.26 ,0.25,0.66,0.50,0.23,0.11,0.08
    Serb_Serbia,24.35,29.99,16.77,9.05,15.98,1.37,0.62 ,0.21,0.64,0.44,0.39,0.07,0.13
    Serb,24.89,29.38,17.14,9.05,15.58,1.55,0.49,0.29,0 .67,0.45,0.35,0.09,0.06
    Serb_Shopluk,23.50,27.64,18.07,9.25,17.09,1.63,0.6 5,0.12,1.05,0.38,0.47,0.23,0.10
    Serb_Dalmatia,25.49,29.53,16.66,8.89,15.69,1.15,0. 67,0.19,0.73,0.56,0.34,0.08,0.04
    Romania_Moldavia_average,23.92,27.62,16.56,9.91,16 .68,1.51,0.58,0.43,1.36,0.63,0.46,0.16,0.16
    Romania_Moldavia_North,23.82,28.53,15.49,10.61,16. 38,1.41,0.68,0.40,1.25,0.60,0.40,0.22,0.21
    Romania_Moldavia_South,24.02,26.76,17.58,9.25,16.9 7,1.60,0.48,0.46,1.47,0.65,0.52,0.10,0.12
    Moldova_average,22.51,27.80,16.89,10.65,16.33,2.30 ,0.44,0.62,1.19,0.54,0.42,0.10,0.20
    Moldova_North,25.89,33.33,14.92,8.89,11.43,1.48,0. 65,0.56,1.47,0.35,0.61,0.17,0.26
    Moldova_Centre,21.89,29.51,16.06,10.47,16.10,1.90, 0.53,0.83,1.14,0.81,0.48,0.08,0.20
    Moldova_South,21.51,24.20,18.33,11.54,18.60,2.94,0 .29,0.49,1.11,0.42,0.29,0.10,0.18
    Romanian_Oltenia,23.83,17.91,10.68,17.72,1.81,0.67 ,0.85,0.60,0.40,0.37,0.09,0.06,0.00
    Romanian_Muntenia,21.74,24.52,16.95,11.73,19.26,2. 31,0.82,0.55,1,0.45,0.34,0.26,0.07
    Romanian_Wallachia_average,22.68,24.86,17.47,11.15 ,18.47,2.11,0.71,0.70,0.85,0.41,0.36,0.16,0.06
    Romanian_Transylvania,23.98,26.24,17.43,9.61,17.51 ,1.68,0.64,0.62,1.13,0.54,0.40,0.09,0.12
    Szekely_Hungarian,26.90,32.16,14.49,7.67,11.72,1.7 7,0.94,0.66,1.07,0.90,0.45,0.13,0.17
    Bosniak,25.39,31.03,15.95,8.77,14.28,1.76,0.77,0.4 ,0.52,0.48,0.32,0.07,0.18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Est.1992 View Post
    Nothing special about him. I have 30-40 Croats with similar genetic profile.
    And you should stop using that horiffic outdated Oracles.
    I "promote" the ones who are more like us. Bulgarians with 20% East Med or some Germanic-shifted Croats are less interesting to me personally.

    I use what's there on Vahaduo, you need to ask Lukasz to replace them ASAP if they're shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    I "promote" the ones who are more like us. Bulgarians with 20% East Med or some Germanic-shifted Croats are less interesting to me personally.

    I use what's there on Vahaduo, you need to ask Lukasz to replace them ASAP if they're shit.
    He is not close to Russians in any way, he is regular dinaric Slav.
    I replace bad samples manually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Est.1992 View Post
    He is not close to Russians in any way, he is regular dinaric Slav.
    I replace bad samples manually.
    Okay, you are in a bad mood today.

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    Vlatko Vukovic is like someone who is 3/4 East Slav and 1/4 Ashkenazi, more or less. Not a rare combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Okay, you are in a bad mood today.
    Why? Just saying he is pretty typical, and btw he look Dalmatian.
    You're also mistake about Germanic input, Croats have little to none.

    Higher North Atlantic reflects native Illyrian ancestry, BA Croats have more NA than anything on gedmatch.
    So person with higher NA simply has less Slavic and more native input.

    Higher Baltic reflects higher Slavic influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Est.1992 View Post
    Why? Just saying he is pretty typical, and btw he look Dalmatian.
    You're also mistake about Germanic input, Croats have little to none.

    Higher North Atlantic reflects native Illyrian ancestry, BA Croats have more NA than anything on gedmatch.
    So person with higher NA simply has less Slavic and more native input.

    Higher Baltic reflects higher Slavic influence.
    I may not know that. P2hter is quite Western for instance.

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    I forgot to say it's typical for Balkan Vlachs, Albanians and Greeks to score more North Atlantic than Baltic, and they are less Slavic people on Balkans.
    Pre-Slavic Balkanites north Euro part was more NW than NE European like.

    So, not really recent influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    I may not know that. P2hter is quite Western for instance.
    Yeah,in his case it is also from his native part. But in NW Croatia natives were Hallstatt Celts.
    So they were pretty northern to begin with (compared to Greeks for example)

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