Serbian Autosomal DNA

[Pribislav]

Lukasz, you should update Serbian average with these results https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6641220 and those that vbnetkhio posted https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6639575

If you inserted Croatian averages for every fucking village, what is your problem with not updating Serbian averages?

I agree, Croatians have cluster for tons of their regions and for Serbs there is only 3-4 heavy outdated clusters.

Poreklo is serious site, with many members who have high knowledge about genetic.

[vbnetkhio]

You need to keep in mind I don't cherrypick and select only verified samples.

well academic samples ain't that, since they test the general population of an area, not just the main ethnicity of the country.

9/28 kits in the Serbia_Serb average have some ancestry from Prizren-Timok (a.k.a "Torlak") areas and the average still isn't as south plotting as those from Belgrade.

[Dušan]

i included only those with gedcoms or who confirmed their ancestry to Mingle. maybe Dalmatians are overrepresented in the sample, notice how the average is very similar to the Dalmatian Serb average from Poreklo.

And who is Mingle to advocate about Serbian autosomal results?

According to these results I am distant from both with distance of 6, but closer to Serbs from Serbia alone, than to Krajina ("croatia") Serbs, which is not likely to be true.
Krajina Serb average is a bit northern than that.

These are results of study of me, and one member of Poreklo forum about Krajina Serb autosomal genetic. We worked indendent from each other and got similar results.

Krajina_Serb_average,24.71,31.76,16.79,8.22,14.62, 1.55,0.43,0.22,0.81,0.56,0.38,0.03,0.03
Serb_Krajina,25.39,31.20,16.65,8.69,14.35,1.42,0.6 7,0.27,0.53,0.40,0.33,0.07,0.03

[Pribislav]

And who is Mingle to advocate about Serbian autosomal results?

According to these results I am distant from both with distance of 6, but closer to Serbs from Serbia alone, than to Krajina ("croatia") Serbs, which is not likely to be true.
Krajina Serb average is a bit northern than that.

These are results of study of me, and one member of Poreklo forum about Krajina Serb autosomal genetic. We worked indendent from each other and got similar results.

Krajina_Serb_average,24.71,31.76,16.79,8.22,14.62, 1.55,0.43,0.22,0.81,0.56,0.38,0.03,0.03
Serb_Krajina,25.39,31.20,16.65,8.69,14.35,1.42,0.6 7,0.27,0.53,0.40,0.33,0.07,0.03

Of course, there is many Lika and Kordun/Banija Serbs with 33-35% Baltic. Among Serbs from Serbs such Baltic score is very rare. Krajina Serbs and Serbs from Serbia can't have identical Baltic score.

[Dušan]

Of course, there is many Lika and Kordun/Banija Serbs with 33-35% Baltic. Among Serbs from Serbs such Baltic score is very rare. Krajina Serbs and Serbs from Serbia can't have identical Baltic score.

It's a bit difference, but noticable.
I don't want to get fucking Croats or Bosniaks as number 1, when my genetics is quite average for part of Serbs whom I belong.

[Pribislav]

It's a bit difference, but noticable.
I don't want to get fucking Croats or Bosniaks as number 1, when my genetics is quite average for part of Serbs whom I belong.

According to Poreklo average Krajina Serbs have for only 1.58% higher Baltic than Serbs from Serbia.
That 31.3% for Krajina Serbs is very close to your 31.76%, but their sample is 63 and your was 28. When on difference of 35 samples is very similar that means it's relevant.

[vbnetkhio]

And who is Mingle to advocate about Serbian autosomal results?

According to these results I am distant from both with distance of 6, but closer to Serbs from Serbia alone, than to Krajina ("croatia") Serbs, which is not likely to be true.
Krajina Serb average is a bit northern than that.

These are results of study of me, and one member of Poreklo forum about Krajina Serb autosomal genetic. We worked indendent from each other and got similar results.

Krajina_Serb_average,24.71,31.76,16.79,8.22,14.62, 1.55,0.43,0.22,0.81,0.56,0.38,0.03,0.03
Serb_Krajina,25.39,31.20,16.65,8.69,14.35,1.42,0.6 7,0.27,0.53,0.40,0.33,0.07,0.03

About Serbian genetic should be included only Serbs, not Pashtuns from USA.

Btw, I have some Serbian kits which are not included in any Serbian average, but doesn't matter now. For example Dalmatian Serb Petar Tintor is not in your neither in Poreklo average Attachment 97805

Mingle didn't claim or advocate for anything, he just emailed a dozen Serbs on gedmatch and asked them about their ancestry, that's all.
some of them had a Serbian name and results within Serbian range, but it turned out they are actually 1/2 Croatian or Bosniak, 1/4 Romanian, etc.
that's why it's not ok to include that Tintor man for example, just because his surname appears among Dalmatian Serbs.

[Pribislav]

Mingle didn't claim or advocate for anything, he just emailed a dozen Serbs on gedmatch and asked them about their ancestry, that's all.
some of them had a Serbian name and results within Serbian range, but it turned out they are actually 1/2 Croatian or Bosniak, 1/4 Romanian, etc.
that's why it's not ok to include that Tintor man for example, just because his surname appears among Dalmatian Serbs.

What is your problem with Banija Serb Milković who score 36.21% Baltic? He and his relatives are full Banija Serbs, according to my information. I got their names, one is Dragutin and will try to find of others (I have in my computer).

Petar Tintor is full Dalmatian Serb, his y dna is J2b1-M205.

[Pribislav]

What is your problem with Banija Serb Milković who score 36.21% Baltic? He and his relatives are full Banija Serbs, according to my information. I got their names, one is Dragutin and will try to find of others (I have in my computer).

Petar Tintor is full Dalmatian Serb, his y dna is J2b1-M205.

His nick on Poreklo was Dalmati. He is not active anymore.

[Pribislav]

His nick on Poreklo was Dalmati. He is not active anymore.

I remember when he said that his autosomal is northern for the fact that his y dna is J2b1-M205, and y dna of his maternal grandpa is also some kind of J2. It was a joke, of course.