Serbian Autosomal DNA

[Jana]

^^^^Looks good, closest to other western Serbs before Croats.

I will probably remove Zagreb average (too many people from all over there) and Split (low quality data and lot of BiH Croats live there), will keep academics from Herzegovina (extremely close to samples I collected) and Bosnia (Žepče, Maglaj), since these regions have local people, never was much immigration from elsewhere to these towns.

Istrian average will be added.

But didn't decide anything yet.

[Peterski]

Guys, you cannot create averages for every single municipality

Why not? It is a great idea.

As long as they really have samples with 4 grandparents born in one municipality.

[Jana]

Why not? It is a great idea.

And those are regions, not municipalities.
Fro example Tropolje on the map, it was stand alone region in medieval (part of Croatia), before being absorbed by rising Bosnian Kingdom. As you can see, proper Bosnia doesn't equal modern Bosnia and Herzegovina.



Tropolje or Završje or Western Regions (Croatian: Zapadne strane) is a historical region in Bosnia and Herzegovina covering a part of the Dinaric Alps. It encompasses territory around karst fields of Livno, Duvno and Glamoč. The wider zone of this region also comprises the fields of Kupres and Bosansko Grahovo. Historically, the region is located on the border of Bosnia, Dalmatia and Herzegovina.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropolje

The total area of the Završje is approximately 4,343 square kilometres (1,680 sq mi). The region is located between Dalmatia to the west, Bosanska Krajina to the north, Central Bosnia to the east and Herzegovina to the south and southeast. Završje has population of 83,541—making the region the most sparsely populated region of Bosnia and Herzegovina at 19.24/km2. Most of the region consists of mountainous terrain separated by karst fields.

Large fields of Livno, Duvno, Glamoč and Kupres are located in the hinterland of the mountain Dinara from the perspective of the eastern Adriatic coast of which they are wider inland. There are also several small or very small karst fields: Grahovsko, Dobransko, Šuičko, Roško, Vukovsko and Planarsko.

The extinction of the Trpimirović dynasty resulted in forming of personal union with Hungary in the 12th century. Mid of the century the Byzantine Empire strengthens once again and conquers the area of Dalmatian cities, Zadinarje's karst fields and a large part of the southern Croatian Kingdom. After death of Manuel I Komnenos, Byzantine Emperor, in 1180 Bosnian ban Kulin expanded the area of its authority to the east and north of the County of Hlivno while County remained in the Croatian Kingdom.

[vbnetkhio]

Real Serb_Croatia average is related to Bosnian Serb average. It is not Sandžak shifted like it is in calculator.

You can send whatever average you want to Lukasz and he'll add it.
feel free to make your "proper" averages, i won't take part in this anymore. i've already seen enough results to know what Serbian genetics are like, my curiosity is satisfied.

i can send you all kits i have, if that's of any use to you.

[Leto]

You can send whatever average you want to Lukasz and he'll add it.
feel free to make your "proper" averages, i won't take part in this anymore. i've already seen enough results to know what Serbian genetics are like, my curiosity is satisfied.

i can send you all kits i have, if that's of any use to you.

Please don't leave this forum. Yugoslav genetics are extremely politicized, even minor differences can cause controversy. I agree that those academic samples should be used and everything else is to be discarded. Your Serbian averages are pretty damn solid and undoubtedly much better than what was previously used as reference.

[Dušan]

You can send whatever average you want to Lukasz and he'll add it.
feel free to make your "proper" averages, i won't take part in this anymore. i've already seen enough results to know what Serbian genetics are like, my curiosity is satisfied.

i can send you all kits i have, if that's of any use to you.

I already asked him to insert Krajina Serb average that fit almost every Serb, but there is a strong prejudice that Serbs cannot have over 30% Baltic in K13 calculator.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6615365

I dont care.
For me, its important that I am closer to general Serb average than to general Croat average, as well as closer to Serbs of Serbia than Croats of Croatia.
Thos Southern Herzegovinian Croats I get, are Serb shifted, with very Balkan culture, often hated in Croatia being Serb-like.

I don't care about any stupid Nordicism with all that Baltic score. I am ordinary Serb with almost 34% Baltic, so what?
I don't give a shit for Slavicism, too. Only Serbdom is important to me. And my result is natural and average for part of Serbs that I belong.

[Jana]

^^^^You result isn't average, it is on high end of Baltic admixture for Serbs, anything else is a lie. But it isn't atypical and there are plenty of Serbs like you.

General Croat average is 33% Baltic by the way.
NW Croats are 34% Baltic and Central Croatia is 33%.

Southern Croats are between 31-32%. Istria is 30% Baltic.

And no, Herzegovina Croats aren't Serb shifted at all. They are closer to other Croats and they plot more northern than Dalmatian Croats do.

Serb general average is 29%, western Serbs should be 30-31%.

Vbhetkhio average for Croatian Serbs is 30% and that's perfect. Anything more than makes them closer to northern Croats than Dalmatians and Istrians are which is ofcourse laughable.

Average made from samples you received from Pribislav is falsely northern inflated (almost 32% Baltic, lmao), because he sent you fake kits made by HungryLion and also many other kits with extremely high Baltic scores he thinks are Serbs based on surname and he knows absolutely nothing about rest of their ancestry.

Croatian Serbs can be more northern shifted than southern and western Croats only in some parallel reality.

[Pribislav]

^^^^You result isn't average, it is on high end of Baltic admixture for Serbs, anything else is a lie. But it isn't atypical and there are plenty of Serbs like you.

General Croat average is 33% Baltic by the way.
NW Croats are 34% Baltic and Central Croatia is 33%.

Southern Croats are between 31-32%. Istria is 30% Baltic.

And no, Herzegovina Croats aren't Serb shifted at all. They are closer to other Croats and they plot more northern than Dalmatian Croats do.

Serb general average is 29%, western Serbs should be 30-31%.

Vbhetkhio average for Croatian Serbs is 30% and that's perfect. Anything more than makes them closer to northern Croats than Dalmatians and Istrians are which is ofcourse laughable.

Average made from samples you received from Pribislav is falsely northern inflated (almost 32% Baltic, lmao), because he sent you fake kits made by HungryLion and also many other kits with extremely high Baltic scores he thinks are Serbs based on surname and he knows absolutely nothing about rest of their ancestry.

Croatian Serbs can be more northern shifted than southern and western Croats only in some parallel reality.

Shut the fuck up already mentally unstable woman!

I showed kits for 98% results which I posted here. Unlike me, you mostly say Serb from Lika, Croat from Herzegovina or Serb from Serbia and you write components without kit. How to we bealive that your claims are autentic? On "honorable" ustashian word?

You claimed for Milković Serb from Banija and Neđeljko Zubović Serb from Lika that they are Croatians. Shame on you!

[Dušan]

All of them have higher North Atlantic than me and rest of Krajina Serbs.
It is not only Baltic that shift to north.
My N.atlantic is very low.

And in next generation that Baltic will be lower. My kids will not have so much Baltic as I have.

[Leto]

All of them have higher North Atlantic than me and rest of Krajina Serbs.
It is not only Baltic that shift to north.
My N.atlantic is very low.

And in next generation that Baltic will be lower. My kids will not have so much Baltic as I have.

Mix with a Russian woman and your kids will be close to 40%