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    Might be a Chechen, although the Mong is kind of high. Maybe a Qumuq?
    No Chechen average on Vahaduo

    Population
    Gedrosia 21.05 Pct
    Siberian 3.67 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 4.94 Pct
    North_European 21.30 Pct
    South_Asian 1.13 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 5.64 Pct
    East_Asian 2.89 Pct
    Caucasus 39.37 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: H.
    6.46313391 Ingush
    6.68358437 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    7.74710268 Avar_Dagestan
    8.10743486 Kumyks
    9.06843426 Avar
    10.06958291 Circassian
    10.09412701 Lak
    10.71522748 Dargin
    12.21026208 Lezgins
    14.58465975 Azerbaijani
    14.77133372 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    15.30269257 Azerbaijani_Iran
    15.36407498 Nogais
    15.62128676 Turk_South
    15.89464375 Turk_Anatolia
    15.96425069 Turk_West_BlackSea
    16.13670350 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    16.26175575 Turk_Central_East
    16.45626325 Turk_Central_West
    16.45996051 Turk_Southwest

    Target: H.
    Distance: 2.2977% / 2.29771338 | ADC: 0.5x
    37.8 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    26.4 Avar
    21.0 Kumyks
    8.6 Nogais
    6.2 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain

    Target: H.
    Distance: 1.0206% / 1.02063722 | ADC: 0.25x
    49.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    19.8 Kumyks
    14.4 Avar
    11.2 Nogais
    4.6 Ukranians
    0.4 Saudis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    Yazidi

    Gedrosian: 27.95
    Siberian: 0.00
    Northwest_African: 2.36
    Southeast_Asian: 0.00
    Atlantic_Med: 6.76
    North_European: 7.05
    South_Asian 3.70
    East_African 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 12.22
    East_Asian: 1.29
    Caucasian: 38.67
    SSA: 0.00

    Distance to: Yazidi
    4.10409552 Iranian
    4.52593637 Lur_Iran
    4.56416476 Kurd
    4.66220978 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    5.21755690 Kurd_Kurmanji
    5.55364745 Iranian_Fars
    5.55676165 Iranians
    5.66075967 Kurd_Sorani
    5.75166063 Kurds
    6.28953893 Zaza
    6.72410589 Iran_Mazandaran
    7.17453134 Azerbaijani_Iran
    7.86961244 Iran_Central_East
    8.10295625 Turkmen_Iraq
    8.82596170 Azerbaijani
    9.40961211 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    9.93026686 Iran_Khorasan
    11.78571593 Turk_Southeast
    11.92461320 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    12.70927221 Uzbekistan_Jews
    13.23592460 Turk_East
    14.73527061 Turk_Central_East
    15.11735096 Armenian_East
    15.46678053 Turk_South
    15.46743353 Turkmens

    Target: Yazidi
    Distance: 1.6277% / 1.62766363 | ADC: 0.25x
    50.0 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    31.0 Iranians
    11.6 Iran_Mazandaran
    3.2 Kurd
    1.6 Argyll
    1.4 Iranian_Fars
    1.0 Mozabite
    0.2 Portuguese
    Pure Kurd basically.

    What do you think is the Southwest Asian range of Azeris?

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    Not sure if this one was posted before

    O-M175

    Population
    Gedrosia 22.18 Pct
    Siberian 4.37 Pct
    Northwest_African 2.33 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 6.50 Pct
    North_European 8.52 Pct
    South_Asian 3.10 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 12.38 Pct
    East_Asian 1.17 Pct
    Caucasus 39.00 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 0.45 Pct

    Distance to: Shahin
    3.44564943 Azerbaijani_Iran
    4.78121324 Azerbaijani
    4.99066128 Kurd_Kurmanji
    5.01350177 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    5.86997445 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    5.98171380 Zaza
    6.50330685 Kurd_Sorani
    7.03695247 Turk_Southeast
    7.16355359 Turkmen_Iraq
    8.03295711 Iranian

    Target: Shahin
    Distance: 2.8617% / 2.86165743 | ADC: 0.5x
    84.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
    13.6 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    1.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
    1.0 Selkup
    0.2 Nganassan

    Target: Shahin
    Distance: 1.7370% / 1.73698799 | ADC: 0.25x
    50.4 Azerbaijani_Iran
    25.0 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    7.8 Kurd_Kurmanji
    7.6 Kurd_Sorani
    3.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    1.8 Selkup
    1.8 Uzbekistan_Jews
    1.0 Balkars
    0.8 Mozabite
    0.8 Nganassan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Pure Kurd basically.

    What do you think is the Southwest Asian range of Azeris?


    Yes he doesn't even show a strong SW shift like other Kurds. Basically pure West Iranic.

    For Azeris: range 9-14.50
    average around 11-12

    Not sure if this one was posted before

    O-M175
    What's his ancestry? looks like Iranian Azerbaijani
    Last edited by Kyp; 04-25-2020 at 09:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    For Azeris: range 9-14.50
    average around 11-12
    Except for Dagestan Azeris, I think. But they are a very small minority of all Azerbaijanis.
    What's his ancestry? looks like Iranian Azerbaijani
    Nope, he has a -yev last name. Interestingly the O haplogroup is basically ching-chong, haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Except for Dagestan Azeris, I think. But they are a very small minority of all Azerbaijanis.

    Nope, he has a -yev last name. Interestingly the O haplogroup is basically ching-chong, haha
    Yes Iranian And Rep results can't be differantiated anyway most of the time. But I thought it because of your spelling of his name
    Last edited by Kyp; 04-25-2020 at 09:33 PM.

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    Iranian Azerbaijani (my guess would be from West-Azerbaijan province)

    Gedrosian: 19.36
    Siberian: 3.31
    Northwest_African: 0.00
    Southeast_Asian: 1.17
    Atlantic_Med: 8.91
    North_European: 6.34
    South_Asian 2.74
    East_African 0.21
    Southwest_Asian: 12.80
    East_Asian: 4.58
    Caucasian: 40.21
    SSA: 0.36

    Distance to: Azerbaijani_Iran12
    3.19879665 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    3.99222995 Azerbaijani
    4.14827675 Azerbaijani_Iran
    4.29562568 Turk_Southeast
    6.19805615 Turk_Central_East
    6.63725847 Turkmen_Iraq
    6.87432906 Kurd_Kurmanji
    6.89779675 Zaza
    7.22862366 Turk_South
    7.32566721 Turk_East
    7.34533866 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    8.11696372 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    8.25438671 Kurd_Sorani
    8.56042639 Turk_Anatolia
    8.78321126 Turk_Central_West
    9.85921396 Uzbekistan_Jews
    10.46386162 Lur_Iran
    10.88724483 Kurd
    10.93938298 Iranian
    10.96019160 Armenian_East
    11.04790025 Kurds
    11.48252150 Turk_West_BlackSea
    11.55480420 Turk_Southwest
    11.79357028 Iranian_Fars
    12.61922739 Yoruk

    Target: Azerbaijani_Iran12
    Distance: 1.0822% / 1.08221786 | ADC: 0.25x
    73.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    16.4 Assyrian
    5.6 Turk_Southeast
    2.0 Turkmen_Iraq
    1.4 Garo
    1.0 Oroqen
    0.6 Daur

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    Iranian Azerbaijani (my guess would be from West-Azerbaijan province)

    Gedrosian: 19.36
    Siberian: 3.31
    Northwest_African: 0.00
    Southeast_Asian: 1.17
    Atlantic_Med: 8.91
    North_European: 6.34
    South_Asian 2.74
    East_African 0.21
    Southwest_Asian: 12.80
    East_Asian: 4.58
    Caucasian: 40.21
    SSA: 0.36

    Distance to: Azerbaijani_Iran12
    3.19879665 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    3.99222995 Azerbaijani
    4.14827675 Azerbaijani_Iran
    4.29562568 Turk_Southeast
    6.19805615 Turk_Central_East
    6.63725847 Turkmen_Iraq
    6.87432906 Kurd_Kurmanji
    6.89779675 Zaza
    7.22862366 Turk_South
    7.32566721 Turk_East
    7.34533866 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    8.11696372 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    8.25438671 Kurd_Sorani
    8.56042639 Turk_Anatolia
    8.78321126 Turk_Central_West
    9.85921396 Uzbekistan_Jews
    10.46386162 Lur_Iran
    10.88724483 Kurd
    10.93938298 Iranian
    10.96019160 Armenian_East
    11.04790025 Kurds
    11.48252150 Turk_West_BlackSea
    11.55480420 Turk_Southwest
    11.79357028 Iranian_Fars
    12.61922739 Yoruk

    Target: Azerbaijani_Iran12
    Distance: 1.0822% / 1.08221786 | ADC: 0.25x
    73.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    16.4 Assyrian
    5.6 Turk_Southeast
    2.0 Turkmen_Iraq
    1.4 Garo
    1.0 Oroqen
    0.6 Daur
    Sometimes I think Azerbaijani mixed with native caucasian shifted people of preturkic time, then with some persians. Or:Oghuz kizilbash came to anatolia, mixed there, fled to safevid state, and some day they mixed with persians. Maybe both theories could be right. Some kept the azerbaijani language, other stayed in their caucasian folks. That would explain why some caucasians have some eastasian, but other turkics/steppe people also have impact in their genetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    Sometimes I think Azerbaijani mixed with native caucasian shifted people of preturkic time, then with some persians. Or:Oghuz kizilbash came to anatolia, mixed there, fled to safevid state, and some day they mixed with persians. Maybe both theories could be right.
    You are correct. It's false to assume Azeris are just Iranian/Transcaucasian + some Turkmen. In addition already mixed Anatolian Turkmens came into the region during Safavid time.
    So all in all Azeris are Iranian/Transcaucasian+Turkmen+Anatolian making Azeris an intermediate population between Iranians and Anatolian Turks.

    Both of your theories are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    You are correct. It's false to assume Azeris are just Iranian/Transcaucasian + some Turkmen. In addition already mixed Anatolian Turkmens came into the region during Safavid time.
    So all in all Azeris are Iranian/Transcaucasian+Turkmen+Anatolian making Azeris an intermediate population between Iranians and Anatolian Turks.
    btw i think it is important to say that these turkmens were probably close to now days Uzbk/Afgh Turkmens-Uzbeks-Uygurs(regarding theair easteurasian admix)

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