Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Resuts

[Aspirin]

I still don't understand how these calculators works, how is possible Ionashku to be more Southern than Andronic? He don't even have Greek_Thessaly in top 20 single population sharing. I know he have high Red Sea and low West Med, is possible that these two components to change so much the results? Vaniusha, explain please.

[Ion Basescul]

I still don't understand how these calculators works, how is possible Ionashku to be more Southern than Andronic? He don't even have Greek_Thessaly in top 20 single population sharing. I know he have high Red Sea and low West Med, is possible that these two components to change so much the results? Vaniusha, explain please.

I'll take a look at their K15.

Meanwhile, a Russophone from the town of Ribnita, Transnistria, but with a Romanian/Moldovan surname.

Shtyrbul, Ribnita

#	Population	Percent
1	Baltic	36.87
2	North_Atlantic	26.6
3	West_Med	14.39
4	East_Med	9.35
5	West_Asian	5.74
6	Red_Sea	2.31
7	Siberian	1.58
8	Oceanian	1.22
9	South_Asian	0.72
10	East_Asian	0.6
11	Northeast_African	0.5
12	Sub-Saharan	0.09
13	Amerindian	0.04

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Croatian	2.95
2	Moldavian	5.25
3	Ukrainian_Lviv	6.33
4	South_Polish	7.45
5	Hungarian	7.5
6	Ukrainian	7.57
7	Polish	10.52
8	Serbian	10.68
9	East_German	10.83
10	Southwest_Russian	11.31
11	Austrian	11.44
12	Ukrainian_Belgorod	11.97
13	Russian_Smolensk	12.6
14	Estonian_Polish	12.94
15	Belorussian	13.61
16	Romanian	14.51
17	Kargopol_Russian	15.13
18	Southwest_Finnish	16.17
19	Bulgarian	16.51
20	Erzya	17.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		82.8%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	17.2%	Tuscan	@	2.17
2		81.7%	Ukrainian	+	18.3%	West_Sicilian	@	2.24
3		84.5%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	15.5%	West_Sicilian	@	2.24
4		79.8%	Ukrainian	+	20.2%	Tuscan	@	2.27
5		69.2%	Estonian_Polish	+	30.8%	Tuscan	@	2.27
6		87.5%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	12.5%	Italian_Jewish	@	2.37
7		87.5%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	12.5%	Algerian_Jewish	@	2.39
8		69.8%	Russian_Smolensk	+	30.2%	Tuscan	@	2.42
9		70.4%	Southwest_Russian	+	29.6%	North_Italian	@	2.43
10		61.5%	Lithuanian	+	38.5%	Tuscan	@	2.45
11		64.1%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	35.9%	Serbian	@	2.51
12		85.2%	Ukrainian	+	14.8%	Algerian_Jewish	@	2.53
13		85.2%	Ukrainian	+	14.8%	Italian_Jewish	@	2.55
14		92.6%	Croatian	+	7.4%	East_Finnish	@	2.55
15		81.9%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	18.1%	North_Italian	@	2.57
16		59.3%	Ukrainian	+	40.7%	Serbian	@	2.57
17		85.3%	Ukrainian	+	14.7%	Sephardic_Jewish	@	2.58
18		85.5%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	14.5%	Ashkenazi	@	2.59
19		95.9%	Croatian	+	4.1%	Mari	@	2.62
20		81.2%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	18.8%	Greek_Thessaly	@	2.62

Demographics of Ribnita town in 2004

Народ	кол-во, чел.	% от всего	% от указав- ших
Украинцы	24898	46,41 %	50,10 %
Русские	11738	21,88 %	23,62 %
Молдаване	11235	20,94 %	22,61 %
Поляки	500	0,93 %	1,01 %
Белорусы	328	0,61 %	0,66 %
Болгары	220	0,41 %	0,44 %
Евреи	166	0,31 %	0,33 %
Немцы	106	0,20 %	0,21 %
Гагаузы	96	0,18 %	0,19 %
другие	571	1,06 %	1,15 %
указали	49693	92,63 %	100,00 %
не указали	3955	7,37 %
всего	53648	100,00 %

[Ion Basescul]

I still don't understand how these calculators works, how is possible Ionashku to be more Southern than Andronic? He don't even have Greek_Thessaly in top 20 single population sharing. I know he have high Red Sea and low West Med, is possible that these two components to change so much the results? Vaniusha, explain please.

If you look at the K15 PCA, you will see that these are the components that pull up (from left to right): Atlantic, North Sea, Baltic, Eastern (Euro), Amerindian, Siberian.
West Med pulls slightly down and to the West. The combination of Atlantic and West Med is the cause for Andronic pulling noticeably West.
East Med and Red Sea pull strongly down and slightly to the East. In this model they seem to be pretty close to one another. West Asian pulls stronger to the East, but not as much down as the former components.
South Asian pulls to the Southeast the strongest of all.
I assume Southeast Asian and Oceanian also pull down, even though they are not drawn on the PCA.

So the sum of components that pull up for Ionashku is 67.65 and 67.02 for Andronic.
For East Med and West Asian they are identical.
It might seem that every percentage in minor components like East Med, Red Sea and South Asian can move the position around significantly. South Asian will have the biggest influence.

Red_Sea	4.83 Pct
South_Asian	1.08 Pct
Southeast_Asian	1.32 Pct

Oceanian

0.63 Pc

Total: 7.86

Red_Sea	3.05 Pct
South_Asian	0.27 Pct
Southeast_Asian	-

Oceanian

-

Total: 3.32

[Leto]

Meanwhile, a Russophone from the town of Ribnita, Transnistria, but with a Romanian/Moldovan surname.

Shtyrbul, Ribnita

How much East_Med and Red_Sea does he score on Eu K15?

[Ion Basescul]

How much East_Med and Red_Sea does he score on Eu K15?

North_Sea	20.79 Pct
Atlantic	13.37 Pct
Baltic	23.51 Pct
Eastern_Euro	15.51 Pct
West_Med	10.72 Pct
West_Asian	5.55 Pct
East_Med	5.74 Pct
Red_Sea	1.71 Pct
South_Asian	0.55 Pct
Southeast_Asian	0.30 Pct
Siberian	0.63 Pct
Amerindian	-
Oceanian	1.05 Pct
Northeast_African	0.57 Pct
Sub-Saharan	-

[Daos777]

Target: yo_scaled
Distance: 1.5073% / 0.01507251
53.0 Ukrainian
38.8 Moldovan
8.2 Tatar_Kazan

Distance to: yo_scaled
0.02821185 Ukrainian:UCH945_ukrainian_Tsherk
0.02962201 Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V46055
0.03197166 Ukrainian:Ukrainian12
0.03335821 Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V13693
0.03387962 Moldovan:7481C01
0.03458364 Moldovan:7471C02
0.03497852 Moldovan:7472C02
0.03514737 Ukrainian:Ukrainian1
0.03526526 Ukrainian:Ukrainian22
0.03538178 Moldovan:8492C01
0.03628731 Ukrainian:UKR-2021
0.03694796 Moldovan:7522C01
0.03701894 Ukrainian:ULV293_ukrainian_Lviv
0.03783166 Ukrainian:UKR-1951
0.03812441 Ukrainian:Ukrainian3
0.03848942 Ukrainian:Ukrainian17
0.03872952 Ukrainian:UKR-1903
0.03943326 Ukrainian:UKR-1291
0.03962526 Ukrainian:Ukrainian20
0.03969376 Ukrainian:UKR-1283
0.04047538 Ukrainian:Ukrainian18
0.04162903 Ukrainian:UKR-1377
0.04178886 Moldovan:7581C02
0.04223993 Ukrainian:UKR-1399
0.04292968 Ukrainian:UKR-1292

I am the most northern full Moldovan ever

[Ion Basescul]

Target: yo_scaled
Distance: 1.5073% / 0.01507251
53.0 Ukrainian
38.8 Moldovan
8.2 Tatar_Kazan

Distance to: yo_scaled
0.02821185 Ukrainian:UCH945_ukrainian_Tsherk
0.02962201 Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V46055
0.03197166 Ukrainian:Ukrainian12
0.03335821 Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V13693
0.03387962 Moldovan:7481C01
0.03458364 Moldovan:7471C02
0.03497852 Moldovan:7472C02
0.03514737 Ukrainian:Ukrainian1
0.03526526 Ukrainian:Ukrainian22
0.03538178 Moldovan:8492C01
0.03628731 Ukrainian:UKR-2021
0.03694796 Moldovan:7522C01
0.03701894 Ukrainian:ULV293_ukrainian_Lviv
0.03783166 Ukrainian:UKR-1951
0.03812441 Ukrainian:Ukrainian3
0.03848942 Ukrainian:Ukrainian17
0.03872952 Ukrainian:UKR-1903
0.03943326 Ukrainian:UKR-1291
0.03962526 Ukrainian:Ukrainian20
0.03969376 Ukrainian:UKR-1283
0.04047538 Ukrainian:Ukrainian18
0.04162903 Ukrainian:UKR-1377
0.04178886 Moldovan:7581C02
0.04223993 Ukrainian:UKR-1399
0.04292968 Ukrainian:UKR-1292

I am the most northern full Moldovan ever

Those two outliers are pure Ukrainians and 8492C01 is mixed. But the others from this list might be unmixed.

[Ion Basescul]

Honciuc, Botosani (Ukrainian surname)

#	Population	Percent
1	Baltic	30.94
2	North_Atlantic	25.88
3	West_Med	16.18
4	East_Med	13.64
5	West_Asian	8.74
6	Red_Sea	1.2
7	Siberian	1.15
8	Oceanian	0.89
9	Amerindian	0.88
10	East_Asian	0.51

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Serbian	4.21
2	Moldavian	4.25
3	Croatian	6.32
4	Hungarian	7.31
5	Romanian	7.48
6	Bulgarian	9.59
7	Austrian	11.23
8	East_German	12.23
9	Ukrainian_Lviv	12.8
10	South_Polish	13.48
11	Ukrainian	13.99
12	Polish	17.06
13	Southwest_Russian	17.44
14	West_German	17.49
15	Ukrainian_Belgorod	17.79
16	Greek_Thessaly	18.31
17	South_Dutch	18.98
18	Russian_Smolensk	19.22
19	French	19.61
20	Estonian_Polish	19.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		65.5%	Romanian	+	34.5%	Ukrainian	@	1.56
2		54.4%	Croatian	+	45.6%	Romanian	@	1.58
3		60.8%	Croatian	+	39.2%	Bulgarian	@	1.68
4		63.7%	Ukrainian	+	36.3%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	1.72
5		50.3%	Serbian	+	49.7%	Moldavian	@	1.77
6		64.9%	Ukrainian	+	35.1%	West_Sicilian	@	1.77
7		83%	Croatian	+	17%	South_Italian	@	1.81
8		63.6%	Romanian	+	36.4%	Ukrainian_Lviv	@	1.82
9		81%	Croatian	+	19%	West_Sicilian	@	1.83
10		75.1%	Croatian	+	24.9%	Greek_Thessaly	@	1.84
11		70.1%	Romanian	+	29.9%	Polish	@	1.87
12		80.7%	Croatian	+	19.3%	Central_Greek	@	1.88
13		80.1%	Croatian	+	19.9%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	1.89
14		85.2%	Croatian	+	14.8%	Italian_Jewish	@	1.92
15		76.8%	Romanian	+	23.2%	Estonian	@	1.92
16		58.7%	Bulgarian	+	41.3%	South_Polish	@	1.94
17		64.9%	Romanian	+	35.1%	South_Polish	@	1.98
18		71.8%	Bulgarian	+	28.2%	Estonian	@	2
19		57.7%	South_Polish	+	42.3%	Greek_Thessaly	@	2.02
20		61.8%	Serbian	+	38.2%	Croatian	@	2.03

[Ion Basescul]

I will create a separate thread when the results will be ready, but here is the progress for my brother's MyHeritage results.
As I know the yDNA and mtDNA from me, there was no point in taking 23andme for him, as MyHeritage is stronger in the raw autosomal DNA department.
It took 2 weeks for my mom's kit and 1.5 weeks for my dad's kit to go from "received" to "results are available" back in January this year.

[Leto]

I will create a separate thread when the results will be ready, but here is the progress for my brother's MyHeritage results.
As I know the yDNA and mtDNA from me, there was no point in taking 23andme for him, as MyHeritage is stronger in the raw autosomal DNA department.
It took 2 weeks for my mom's kit and 1.5 weeks for my dad's kit to go from "received" to "results are available" back in January this year.

We'll see who gets his results first - Chris or your brother.