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    I dont understand why its a problem that Hittites werent IEn genetically. They were a great culture, thats the only point whats matter. Their gods, architecture and culture were basically anatolian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    What is RUS_Catacomb? Where in Russia were they found and and when did they live?
    A mostly Steppe(as in Yamnaya-like) individual from the Catacomb culture, the territorial successor to Yamnaya in the Steppe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    What about bulgarians though? They barely have any East asian ancestry despite being named after a Turkic elite.
    I bet they do though if you use formal statistics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    I dont understand why its a problem that Hittites werent IEn genetically. They were a great culture, thats the only point whats matter. Their gods, architecture and culture were basically anatolian.
    Absolutely none if by using proper methods they end up having none. The problem is people here use methods totally unsuitable for the task to come up with conclusions. You'll notice that in research papers they use a slew of formal methods before they conclude something

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    I thought a Caucasian-like population brought the IE languages to Anatolia since there's increase in Caucasian components after the neolithic era (IE expansion happens).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoro View Post
    I bet they do though if you use formal statistics.
    Idk man. They don't score any lol.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    Idk man. They don't score any lol.

    [Img]https://abload.de/img/tablododecadk12b3oco7.png

    [Img]https://abload.de/img/tabloeurogenesk13dzfcx.png
    That guy will tell you we aren't using proper calcs and in reality they are like quater East Eurasian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    I dont understand why its a problem that Hittites werent IEn genetically. They were a great culture, thats the only point whats matter. Their gods, architecture and culture were basically anatolian.
    Do we even have Hittite samples? I thought that those Hittites that OP referenced were actually later identified as Hattians instead. If they are Hattians then it makes sense that they don't bear a noticeable steppe admixture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudayar View Post
    I thought a Caucasian-like population brought the IE languages to Anatolia since there's increase in Caucasian components after the neolithic era (IE expansion happens).
    Some historians think IEs came across caucasus. Maybe with them came a lot of caucasian people, there could be different reason for this happening: Caucasian-like people came with IE upper class both groups could came because of causes of migration or flight, maybe diseases, other people who were warlike etc, looking for new land, etc...

    Do we even have Hittite samples? I thought that those Hittites that OP referenced were actually later identified as Hattians instead. If they are Hattians then it makes sense that they don't bear a noticeable steppe admixture.
    Ask that to @Hudayar, idk. But i think he presented real Hittite sample.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    That guy will tell you we aren't using proper calcs and in reality they are like quater East Eurasian
    Do you think its logical to use modern references to find out the ancestry of a man who lived thousands of years ago? It doesn't make sense to me.

    Also I think people are forgetting that IE is a language group so I don't see what all the fuss is about really. What does a Scott and a Pashtun have in common genetically, other than a distinctly related language?

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