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    Quote Originally Posted by Roman-Anatolian View Post
    Done.
    Kalos irthes file ,apo thessaloniki eisai na ypotheso?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorian View Post
    Kalos irthes file ,apo thessaloniki eisai na ypotheso?
    Ευχαριστώ. Από Θεσσαλονίκη είμαι ναι

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    Not a Greek myself but please post Dodecad K12b (not Oracle-4!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konstantinos View Post
    Ok here me out.

    Greeks have a lot of variety. Pontic Greeks are the most outlying in the sense that they are the closest to Lazs and Armenians but they are distinct from them in the sense that they show "Mediterranean" shift. This situation is to be expected since Pontus is the farthest Greek region from the core and doesn't have land borders with any other Greek region, so the initial Greek colonizers couldn't be a lot since they have to have traveled by sea(as we also know through history). These colonizers quickly Hellenized the local population and developed the modern Pontic Greek profile.

    Now so far the Pontic Greek results that floated around were much closer to Lazs and Armenians than yours. Essentially that means you show much more Mainland Greek shift. Since genetics is underdeveloped in Greece most results are provided by "barbarians" It is my personal opinion(and only that, so I may well be wrong) that there's a big agenda towards Greeks. Your results are illuminating in that they are both very Mainland Greek shifted and at the same time show a Steppe affinity that is supposed to have been mostly introduced to Greeks through Slavic invasions. I have my strong doubts about that and am long in search of Asia Minor, and other non-core Greek areas' results to investigate that.

    Be prepared to here stories how a "Slavic-influenced Mainlander Greek village" decided to migrate to your Pontic Greek villages and influence your results. If you have any questions I'm very happy to answer.
    thanks for the explanation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Not a Greek myself but please post Dodecad K12b (not Oracle-4!).
    Dodecad K12b Oracle results:


    #PopulationPercent1
    Caucasus44.762
    Atlantic_Med16.643
    North_European14.94
    Gedrosia13.155
    Southwest_Asian10.456
    Siberian0.1
    Single Population Sharing:

    #Population (source)Distance1Turkish (Dodecad)7.55
    2Turks (Behar)9.69
    3Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar)14.24
    4Cypriots (Behar)14.72
    5Ashkenazi (Dodecad)15.6
    6Greek (Dodecad)16.13
    7Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar)16.32
    8Armenian (Dodecad)16.53
    9S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)16.54
    10Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev)16.97
    11Kumyks (Yunusbayev)17.05
    12Sephardic_Jews (Behar)17.14
    13Sicilian (Dodecad)17.21
    14Georgia_Jews (Behar)17.31
    15Armenians (Behar)17.76
    16Lebanese (Behar)17.88
    17Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar)18.27
    18Assyrian (Dodecad)18.37
    19Kurds (Yunusbayev)18.95
    20Druze (HGDP)19.12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roman-Anatolian View Post
    Ευχαριστώ. Από Θεσσαλονίκη είμαι ναι
    Xalara .. mporeis na steileis kai ena print me ta apotelesmata tis eterias pu kanes to test?kai an den exis thema kai ton ari8mo kit apto ged?

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    Here's 3 Pontic Greek results to compare yourself with:

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    Your results are definitely not typical. Which service did you use to get your raw data? Mind sharing the results of that too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roman-Anatolian View Post
    Using 2 populations approximation:

    1 50% Ashkenazi +50% Georgian @ 2.857617
    You have strong Med shift, interesting. Basically half Kavkazian half east med/aegan
    Ashkenazi are pretty close to south Italians and Greek Islanders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roman-Anatolian View Post
    Dodecad K12b Oracle results:
    Your Vahaduo K12b oracle

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 44.76
    2 Atlantic_Med 16.64
    3 North_European 14.9
    4 Gedrosia 13.15
    5 Southwest_Asian 10.45
    6 Siberian 0.1


    Distance to: RA
    10.25542783 Greek_Cappadocia
    10.56037878 Turk_Central_East
    10.61542274 Turk_West_BlackSea
    11.05397214 Turk_Central_West
    11.17902947 Turk_East
    11.36881700 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
    11.61086560 Turk_Anatolia
    11.90891263 Greek_Crete
    12.29751601 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    12.99926536 Turk_South
    13.43011914 Turk_Southeast
    13.55075644 Turk_Southwest
    13.63954178 Armenian_East
    13.99021801 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    14.41829394 Turk_Northwest
    14.68859762 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
    14.70312892 Karachay
    14.77776708 Azerbaijani
    14.98253650 Turk_East_Black_Sea
    14.99037358 Armenian_West

    Target: RA
    Distance: 1.5352% / 1.53523748 | ADC: 0.25x
    50.0 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
    25.0 Greek_Cappadocia
    14.2 Georgian_Gurian
    10.8 Turk_Ahiska

    Target: RA
    Distance: 2.4768% / 2.47678602 | ADC: 0.5x
    44.0 Greek_Cappadocia
    36.4 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
    19.6 Circassian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Est.1992 View Post
    You have strong Med shift, interesting. Basically half Kavkazian half east med/aegan
    Ashkenazi are pretty close to south Italians and Greek Islanders.
    He has high North Atlantic and Baltic neither of which the average Pontic Greek has. He actually has more Steppe ancestry than a Greek from Kos. I think one of his grandparents must be heavily Balkan shifted to get such a result...

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