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    Here is my MDLP K23b.

    I am closer to Azov Greek than you. You sure you don't have any Turkish ancestry?

    1 Azov_Greek_ @ 5.595373
    2 Turk_Istanbul_ @ 6.999248
    3 Turk_Aydin_ @ 7.191515
    4 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 7.552398
    5 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 7.985395
    6 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ @ 8.532290
    7 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 10.336052
    8 Turk_ @ 10.684715
    9 Greek_ @ 10.742879
    10 Cretan_ @ 11.149133
    11 Greek_Athens_ @ 11.871713
    12 Central_Greek_ @ 12.408091
    13 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 12.950331
    14 Romanian_Jew_ @ 13.039809
    15 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 13.270164
    16 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 13.496339
    17 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 13.591235
    18 Italian_South_ @ 13.659225
    19 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 13.883714
    20 Ashkenazi_ @ 13.902244

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    A true Greek. Welcome file

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    Here is my MDLP K23b.

    I am closer to Azov Greek than you. You sure you don't have any Turkish ancestry?

    1 Azov_Greek_ @ 5.595373
    2 Turk_Istanbul_ @ 6.999248
    3 Turk_Aydin_ @ 7.191515
    4 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 7.552398
    5 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 7.985395
    6 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ @ 8.532290
    7 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 10.336052
    8 Turk_ @ 10.684715
    9 Greek_ @ 10.742879
    10 Cretan_ @ 11.149133
    11 Greek_Athens_ @ 11.871713
    12 Central_Greek_ @ 12.408091
    13 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 12.950331
    14 Romanian_Jew_ @ 13.039809
    15 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 13.270164
    16 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 13.496339
    17 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 13.591235
    18 Italian_South_ @ 13.659225
    19 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 13.883714
    20 Ashkenazi_ @ 13.902244
    He obviously doesn't, because he scores no Turkic input at all.

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    You are not fully Pontic.

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    You score a lot of north european. Maybe you have ancestors from todays greek or western turkey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roman-Anatolian View Post
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    Very interesting results! Most Pontic Greek results we have so far are close to Caucasian groups. Yours are half Caucasian-like and the rest is similar to Greek Islander or maybe Smyrniot results.
    However there is an explanation.
    The Pontic Greek samples we have so far are from Trabzon area. We don't have samples from Western Pontus. Your Trabzon side seems typical. Your Western Pontus side is different but in fact may be typical for the region. We need samples from this area and it is very useful to see your results.
    Could you also post your K15? I would like to see both your mixed mode (press oracle) and 4 (oracle 4)populations results.
    Distance: 0.013732
    25% Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH067(Cretan/Aegean+some west Asian) + 25% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215 + 12.5% UKR_Cimmerian MJ12 (Dacian/Getae+some Cimmerian mix)+ 12.5% HUN_BA_o:SZ1(Pannonian-Scythian mix) + 12.5% Baltic_LVA_BA:Kivutkalns209 + 6.25% Baltic_EST_IA:0LS10_1 + 6.25% Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA:ASH34

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    Quote Originally Posted by xripkan View Post
    Very interesting results! Most Pontic Greek results we have so far are close to Caucasian groups. Yours are half Caucasian-like and the rest is similar to Greek Islander or maybe Smyrniot results.
    However there is an explanation.
    The Pontic Greek samples we have so far are from Trabzon area. We don't have samples from Western Pontus. Your Trabzon side seems typical. Your Western Pontus side is different but in fact may be typical for the region. We need samples from this area and it is very useful to see your results.
    Could you also post your K15? I would like to see both your mixed mode (press oracle) and 4 (oracle 4)populations results.
    Beautiful

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    Quote Originally Posted by AncientGreek View Post
    He has high North Atlantic and Baltic neither of which the average Pontic Greek has. He actually has more Steppe ancestry than a Greek from Kos. I think one of his grandparents must be heavily Balkan shifted to get such a result...
    Not necessarily true. Pontus and Principality of Theodoro which was a Greek/Gothic Crimean mix was a brother/sister type relationship - meaning alot of trade occured between these two people.

    Not overly atypical at all - you see some Pontians that are fairly light and others that look full Iranic. They are as diverse as any other people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markos View Post
    Beautiful
    I find quite possible that western Pontic Greeks are similar to Cappadocian Greeks and close to Dodecanese.
    Distance: 0.013732
    25% Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH067(Cretan/Aegean+some west Asian) + 25% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215 + 12.5% UKR_Cimmerian MJ12 (Dacian/Getae+some Cimmerian mix)+ 12.5% HUN_BA_o:SZ1(Pannonian-Scythian mix) + 12.5% Baltic_LVA_BA:Kivutkalns209 + 6.25% Baltic_EST_IA:0LS10_1 + 6.25% Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA:ASH34

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