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    Quote Originally Posted by lilalila1988 View Post
    Thank you!

    Well, it seems to be slightly more Slavic in comparison to the other S/E Serbian samples. Would be nice to see more results from that area. I have checked back with my parents and the last 5 generations are from Nis, Aleksinac, Sokobanja, Svrljig and Leskovac.
    here are some which were already posted on apricity. i have some more private results which i won't post but these 3 pretty much show the entire range:

    Zajecar+Leskovac:

    1 Baltic 32.21
    2 North_Atlantic 25.09
    3 West_Med 15.55
    4 East_Med 15.5
    5 West_Asian 9.87
    6 Red_Sea 1.22
    7 South_Asian 0.39
    8 Siberian 0.18

    Jablanica(the region close to Leskovac):
    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):
    
    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 27.19
    2 North_Atlantic 22.22
    3 West_Med 19.89
    4 East_Med 17.8
    5 West_Asian 8.06
    6 Siberian 2.59
    7 Red_Sea 1.43
    8 Sub-Saharan 0.28
    9 East_Asian 0.27
    10 South_Asian 0.27
    
    Single Population Sharing:
    
    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Romanian 5.26
    2 Bulgarian 5.64
    3 Serbian 6.4
    4 Moldavian 10.06
    5 Croatian 12.74
    6 Greek_Thessaly 12.88
    7 Hungarian 13.48
    8 Austrian 16.48
    9 North_Italian 17.01
    10 Tuscan 17.6
    11 East_German 17.87
    12 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.94
    13 Italian_Abruzzo 19.76
    14 South_Polish 19.83
    15 Ukrainian 19.96
    16 Central_Greek 20
    17 West_Sicilian 20.5
    18 West_German 20.95
    19 French 21.03
    20 East_Sicilian 21.13
    
    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    
    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 61.4% Greek_Thessaly + 38.6% Ukrainian @ 3.73
    2 54.9% Ukrainian + 45.1% South_Italian @ 4.04
    3 70.9% Greek_Thessaly + 29.1% Estonian @ 4.12
    4 50.3% Croatian + 49.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.13
    5 50.7% Ukrainian + 49.3% West_Sicilian @ 4.16
    6 60.2% Greek_Thessaly + 39.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.17
    7 67.3% Greek_Thessaly + 32.7% Estonian_Polish @ 4.19
    8 57.2% Moldavian + 42.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.24
    9 89.1% Bulgarian + 10.9% East_Finnish @ 4.26
    10 61.7% Tuscan + 38.3% Erzya @ 4.27
    11 68.4% Greek_Thessaly + 31.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.27
    12 61.4% Greek_Thessaly + 38.6% South_Polish @ 4.28
    13 59.5% Ukrainian + 40.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.3
    14 70.5% Croatian + 29.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.3
    15 84.2% Bulgarian + 15.8% Ukrainian @ 4.31
    16 71.4% Greek_Thessaly + 28.6% East_Finnish @ 4.31
    17 87.9% Bulgarian + 12.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.33
    18 75.9% Moldavian + 24.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.33
    19 65.4% Greek_Thessaly + 34.6% Polish @ 4.34
    20 77.1% Bulgarian + 22.9% Croatian @ 4.38
    Southern Kosovo:

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    Admix Results (sorted):
    
    #PopulationPercent
    1Baltic24.62
    2North_Atlantic23.25
    3East_Med22.65
    4West_Med17.48
    5West_Asian10.91
    6Amerindian0.42
    7Sub-Saharan0.28
    8Siberian0.27
    9Red_Sea0.12
    
    Single Population Sharing:
    
    #Population (source)Distance
    1Bulgarian3.33
    2Romanian4.59
    3Serbian7.93
    4Greek_Thessaly9.75
    5Moldavian13.56
    6Tuscan15.28
    7Hungarian15.62
    8Italian_Abruzzo16.05
    9Croatian16.09
    10North_Italian16.17
    11Central_Greek16.5
    12West_Sicilian17.43
    13East_Sicilian17.83
    14Austrian18.42
    15Ashkenazi18.72
    16East_German20.3
    17South_Italian20.64
    18West_German21.6
    19French21.66
    20Portuguese22.03
    
    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    
    # Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
    1 98.3%Bulgarian+1.7%Southeast_English@3.3
    2 98.2%Bulgarian+1.8%Spanish_Valencia@3.31
    3 98.6%Bulgarian+1.4%Danish@3.31
    4 97.9%Bulgarian+2.1%Ashkenazi@3.31
    5 98.2%Bulgarian+1.8%West_German@3.31
    6 98.8%Bulgarian+1.2%North_Dutch@3.32
    7 98.5%Bulgarian+1.5%Spanish_Cataluna@3.32
    8 98.9%Bulgarian+1.1%Norwegian@3.32
    9 98.9%Bulgarian+1.1%Orcadian@3.32
    10 98.8%Bulgarian+1.2%North_German@3.32
    11 98.6%Bulgarian+1.4%South_Dutch@3.32
    12 98.7%Bulgarian+1.3%Italian_Jewish@3.32
    13 97.9%Bulgarian+2.1%Tuscan@3.32
    14 99.1%Bulgarian+0.9%West_Scottish@3.32
    15 98.2%Bulgarian+1.8%North_Italian@3.32
    16 99.1%Bulgarian+0.9%Southwest_English@3.32
    17 99.1%Bulgarian+0.9%Swedish@3.32
    18 98.7%Bulgarian+1.3%French@3.32
    19 98.9%Bulgarian+1.1%Spanish_Murcia@3.32
    20 98.4%Bulgarian+1.6%Hungarian@3.33

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    Siberian 2.59

    Holy moly, that's a lot for a Serb. Can you show me his Dodecad? Just to see if that's not some kind of glitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Siberian 2.59

    Holy moly, that's a lot for a Serb. Can you show me his Dodecad? Just to see if that's not some kind of glitch.
    here. he gets it in k12b too.

    Code:
    Admix Results (sorted):
    
    #	Population	Percent
    1	North_European	34.74
    2	Atlantic_Med	26.29
    3	Caucasus	23.35
    4	Southwest_Asian	8.84
    5	Gedrosia	4.34
    6	Siberian	1.34
    7	East_Asian	0.46
    8	Sub_Saharan	0.4
    9	Northwest_African	0.14
    10	South_Asian	0.09
    
    Single Population Sharing:
    
    #	Population (source)	Distance
    1	Romanians (Behar)	6.03
    2	Bulgarian (Dodecad)	7.04
    3	Bulgarians (Yunusbayev)	7.76
    4	O_Italian (Dodecad)	14.63
    5	Hungarians (Behar)	15.13
    6	N_Italian (Dodecad)	17.59
    7	Greek (Dodecad)	18.42
    8	TSI30 (Metspalu)	19.04
    9	Tuscan (HGDP)	19.44
    10	German (Dodecad)	19.77
    11	C_Italian (Dodecad)	19.79
    12	North_Italian (HGDP)	20.53
    13	French (Dodecad)	22.51
    14	French (HGDP)	22.67
    15	Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)	22.98
    16	Dutch (Dodecad)	24.52
    17	S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)	24.7
    18	Sicilian (Dodecad)	24.73
    19	Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar)	24.83
    20	Ashkenazi (Dodecad)	24.88
    
    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    
    #	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
    1	 	67.2%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	32.8%	Sephardic_Jews (Behar)	@	2.57
    2	 	62.5%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	37.5%	Ashkenazi (Dodecad)	@	2.83
    3	 	62.4%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	37.6%	Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar)	@	3.04
    4	 	70.8%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	29.2%	Russian (HGDP)	@	3.04
    5	 	64.6%	S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)	+	35.4%	Finnish (Dodecad)	@	3.04
    6	 	63.7%	S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)	+	36.3%	FIN30 (1000Genomes)	@	3.04
    7	 	62.3%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	37.7%	S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)	@	3.09
    8	 	54.4%	S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)	+	45.6%	Polish (Dodecad)	@	3.09
    9	 	71.6%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	28.4%	Cypriots (Behar)	@	3.19
    10	 	64%	C_Italian (Dodecad)	+	36%	Russian (HGDP)	@	3.2
    11	 	55.6%	Swedish (Dodecad)	+	44.4%	Cypriots (Behar)	@	3.22
    12	 	69.6%	C_Italian (Dodecad)	+	30.4%	Finnish (Dodecad)	@	3.3
    13	 	66.3%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	33.7%	Ukranians (Yunusbayev)	@	3.35
    14	 	69.8%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	30.2%	Mordovians (Yunusbayev)	@	3.37
    15	 	62.4%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	37.6%	Sicilian (Dodecad)	@	3.41
    16	 	68.3%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	31.7%	Mixed_Slav (Dodecad)	@	3.44
    17	 	70.3%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	29.7%	Russian_B (Behar)	@	3.44
    18	 	75.9%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	24.1%	Finnish (Dodecad)	@	3.48
    19	 	68.8%	C_Italian (Dodecad)	+	31.2%	FIN30 (1000Genomes)	@	3.49
    20	 	68.2%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	31.8%	Morocco_Jews (Behar)	@	3.52

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    Yep, I see. 1.8% in total. And he isn't Slavic-shifted at all, only ca. 35% North_European.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Yep, I see. 1.8% in total. And he isn't Slavic-shifted at all, only ca. 35% North_European.
    dodecad can't show Slavic influence. he gets 27% baltic in k13, that isn't super low. but his north atlantic is very low, 22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    dodecad can't show Slavic influence. he gets 27% baltic in k13, that isn't super low. but his north atlantic is very low, 22.
    Well, I judge by the level of North_European which is relatively low in his case.

    Distance to: x
    3.70613006 Montenegrin
    3.71887080 Macedonian
    3.77779036 Pomak
    4.57415566 R.Moldova_South
    6.14639732 Serb
    6.60759412 Romanians
    6.71414924 Gagauz
    6.99854985 R.Moldova_Gagauz
    7.80078842 Bulgarian
    8.62516667 Bulgarians

    Target: x
    Distance: 1.9810% / 1.98101286 | ADC: 0.5x
    70.8 Montenegrin
    27.2 Pomak
    2.0 Saudis

    Target: x
    Distance: 1.1187% / 1.11869661 | ADC: 0.25x
    83.8 Montenegrin
    9.0 Pomak
    3.8 Saudis
    3.0 R.Moldova_Centre+North
    0.4 Dolgan

    No question this person is very Southern, though that wasn't really the point of my interest. I just love the Mongoloid in Europe west/southwest of Russia/Ukraine/Belarus

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    very Montenegrin results
    1 Baltic 28.39
    2 North_Atlantic 27.26
    3 West_Med 19.07
    4 East_Med 13.43
    5 West_Asian 7.34
    6 Red_Sea 1.92
    7 Amerindian 1.05
    8 East_Asian 0.68
    9 Oceanian 0.49
    10 Northeast_African 0.37

    mine is the same, are serbs from bosnia region from montenegro first?

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    Results of Serbian individuals with ancestry from Zalužnica, Lika and the surrounding villages. A good showcase of how the diversity and differences are usually more on an individual scale, rather than a regional one....at least as far as Serbs are concerned:


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    Father Serbian from Strpce (Kosovo) - Mother Macedonian from Tetovo.
    A646536
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    Population	 
    North_Atlantic	23.25 Pct
    Baltic	24.62 Pct
    West_Med	17.48 Pct
    West_Asian	10.91 Pct
    East_Med	22.65 Pct
    Red_Sea	0.12 Pct
    South_Asian	-    
    East_Asian	-    
    Siberian	0.27 Pct
    Amerindian	0.42 Pct
    Oceanian	-    
    Northeast_African	-    
    Sub-Saharan	0.28 Pct
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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    here are some which were already posted on apricity. i have some more private results which i won't post but these 3 pretty much show the entire range:


    Jablanica(the region close to Leskovac):
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    Admix Results (sorted):
    
    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 27.19
    2 North_Atlantic 22.22
    3 West_Med 19.89
    4 East_Med 17.8
    5 West_Asian 8.06
    6 Siberian 2.59
    7 Red_Sea 1.43
    8 Sub-Saharan 0.28
    9 East_Asian 0.27
    10 South_Asian 0.27
    
    Single Population Sharing:
    
    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Romanian 5.26
    2 Bulgarian 5.64
    3 Serbian 6.4
    4 Moldavian 10.06
    5 Croatian 12.74
    6 Greek_Thessaly 12.88
    7 Hungarian 13.48
    8 Austrian 16.48
    9 North_Italian 17.01
    10 Tuscan 17.6
    11 East_German 17.87
    12 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.94
    13 Italian_Abruzzo 19.76
    14 South_Polish 19.83
    15 Ukrainian 19.96
    16 Central_Greek 20
    17 West_Sicilian 20.5
    18 West_German 20.95
    19 French 21.03
    20 East_Sicilian 21.13
    
    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    
    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 61.4% Greek_Thessaly + 38.6% Ukrainian @ 3.73
    2 54.9% Ukrainian + 45.1% South_Italian @ 4.04
    3 70.9% Greek_Thessaly + 29.1% Estonian @ 4.12
    4 50.3% Croatian + 49.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.13
    5 50.7% Ukrainian + 49.3% West_Sicilian @ 4.16
    6 60.2% Greek_Thessaly + 39.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.17
    7 67.3% Greek_Thessaly + 32.7% Estonian_Polish @ 4.19
    8 57.2% Moldavian + 42.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.24
    9 89.1% Bulgarian + 10.9% East_Finnish @ 4.26
    10 61.7% Tuscan + 38.3% Erzya @ 4.27
    11 68.4% Greek_Thessaly + 31.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.27
    12 61.4% Greek_Thessaly + 38.6% South_Polish @ 4.28
    13 59.5% Ukrainian + 40.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.3
    14 70.5% Croatian + 29.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.3
    15 84.2% Bulgarian + 15.8% Ukrainian @ 4.31
    16 71.4% Greek_Thessaly + 28.6% East_Finnish @ 4.31
    17 87.9% Bulgarian + 12.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.33
    18 75.9% Moldavian + 24.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.33
    19 65.4% Greek_Thessaly + 34.6% Polish @ 4.34
    20 77.1% Bulgarian + 22.9% Croatian @ 4.38
    Thank you for posting. I highly believe that I have roots in this region.


    By the way, having such an amount of Siberian and two other components should indicate something. Do you know the haplogroup?

    6 Siberian 2.59
    9 East_Asian 0.27
    10 South_Asian 0.27

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