Macedonian Gedmatch kits - 28

[JohnnyP]

New Macedonian Kit from Tetovo(Northwest) - H130030.

Population	 
North_Atlantic	23.21 Pct
Baltic	23.67 Pct
West_Med	19.11 Pct
West_Asian	10.68 Pct
East_Med	18.68 Pct
Red_Sea	2.14 Pct
South_Asian	0.58 Pct
East_Asian	0.47 Pct
Siberian	1.46 Pct
Amerindian	-    
Oceanian	-    
Northeast_African	-    
Sub-Saharan	-

[JohnnyP]

New Macedonian kit from Vratnica - North WX2259700.

Population	 
North_Atlantic	20.69 Pct
Baltic	22.74 Pct
West_Med	19.55 Pct
West_Asian	8.65 Pct
East_Med	25.35 Pct
Red_Sea	0.91 Pct
South_Asian	-    
East_Asian	-    
Siberian	0.90 Pct
Amerindian	0.67 Pct
Oceanian	0.30 Pct
Northeast_African	-    
Sub-Saharan	0.24 Pct

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian @ 6.718307
2 Greek_Thessaly @ 8.120649
3 Romanian @ 9.214750
4 Serbian @ 13.203517
5 Tuscan @ 15.330303
6 Central_Greek @ 15.833022
7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 16.227892
8 West_Sicilian @ 16.603750
9 East_Sicilian @ 16.981371
10 Ashkenazi @ 17.480944
11 North_Italian @ 17.815399
12 Moldavian @ 19.444246
13 South_Italian @ 20.266491
14 Hungarian @ 22.224051
15 Croatian @ 22.397686
16 Algerian_Jewish @ 25.332230
17 Italian_Jewish @ 25.401142
18 Austrian @ 25.413536
19 Portuguese @ 25.675789
20 Sephardic_Jewish @ 26.125784

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.360181


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi +25% Bulgarian +25% Ukrainian @ 4.590045


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Ashkenazi + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Ukrainian @ 4.574051
2 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + Ukrainian @ 4.590045
3 Bulgarian + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 4.634157
4 Estonian_Polish + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish @ 4.634172
5 Belorussian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish @ 4.681131
6 Ashkenazi + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + South_Polish @ 4.757778
7 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + South_Polish @ 4.771143
8 Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Bulgarian @ 4.780813
9 Algerian_Jewish + Bulgarian + Greek_Thessaly + Ukrainian @ 4.786623
10 Algerian_Jewish + Belorussian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly @ 4.788596
11 Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + Italian_Jewish @ 4.811113
12 Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + Croatian + Greek_Thessaly @ 4.813096
13 Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 4.818008
14 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Southwest_Russian @ 4.822585
15 Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + South_Italian + Ukrainian @ 4.827875
16 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Lithuanian @ 4.832442
17 Algerian_Jewish + Estonian_Polish + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly @ 4.833867
18 Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + Ukrainian + West_Sicilian @ 4.856512
19 Ashkenazi + Estonian_Polish + Greek_Thessaly + West_Sicilian @ 4.861985
20 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Romanian + Ukrainian @ 4.868021

puntDNAL k13

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian @ 5.395772
2 Albanian @ 7.393777
3 Greek @ 7.472715
4 Tuscan @ 10.968935
5 Italian_North @ 11.478874
6 Italian_South @ 11.994309
7 French @ 13.768091
8 Croatian @ 13.887093
9 Hungarian @ 14.323102
10 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 14.832452
11 German_South @ 15.012466
12 Utahn_white @ 16.645319
13 Irish @ 16.836336
14 Sicilian @ 17.248894
15 English_South @ 18.462242
16 Spanish_Southwest @ 18.991674
17 Spanish_Northeast @ 19.206400
18 Turkish_Aydin @ 19.488287
19 German_North @ 19.661905
20 Czech @ 20.341438

Eurogenes K15

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Bulgarian	5.66
2	Greek	5.99
3	Romanian	8.25
4	Greek_Thessaly	8.57
5	Serbian	11.27
6	Tuscan	11.54
7	Italian_Abruzzo	11.73
8	Central_Greek	12.28
9	West_Sicilian	12.33
10	Ashkenazi	12.82
11	East_Sicilian	13.25
12	North_Italian	14.22
13	South_Italian	15.09
14	Moldavian	16.32
15	Austrian	17.17
16	Croatian	17.44
17	Hungarian	18.39
18	Italian_Jewish	18.94
19	Sephardic_Jewish	19.39
20	Algerian_Jewish	19.74

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	84%	Greek	+	16%	Belorussian	@	2.72
2	 	85.4%	Greek	+	14.6%	Estonian	@	2.76
3	 	84.2%	Greek	+	15.8%	Estonian_Polish	@	2.82
4	 	83.2%	Greek	+	16.8%	Polish	@	2.82
5	 	83.1%	Greek	+	16.9%	Russian_Smolensk	@	2.85
6	 	85.7%	Greek	+	14.3%	Lithuanian	@	2.85
7	 	83.6%	Greek	+	16.4%	Southwest_Russian	@	2.99
8	 	82.2%	Greek	+	17.8%	South_Polish	@	3.07
9	 	84.8%	Greek	+	15.2%	Southwest_Finnish	@	3.1
10	 	76.8%	Greek	+	23.2%	Austrian	@	3.12
11	 	83.6%	Greek	+	16.4%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	@	3.17
12	 	85.3%	Greek	+	14.7%	Finnish	@	3.21
13	 	77.3%	Greek	+	22.7%	Croatian	@	3.23
14	 	85.2%	Greek	+	14.8%	Kargopol_Russian	@	3.23
15	 	85.6%	Greek	+	14.4%	East_Finnish	@	3.24
16	 	82.9%	Greek	+	17.1%	Ukrainian	@	3.26
17	 	85.8%	Greek	+	14.2%	La_Brana-1	@	3.31
18	 	82.6%	Greek	+	17.4%	Ukrainian_Lviv	@	3.39
19	 	78.7%	Greek	+	21.3%	Hungarian	@	3.47
20	 	86.3%	Greek	+	13.7%	Erzya	@	3.57

[JohnnyP]

[JohnnyP]

(North - Vratnica)

[JohnnyP]

This kit i posted on first post but without region info.
Macedonian from West , but his family are Macedonians from Albania (Peskopeja) - T973440 .

Population -
North_Atlantic	18.21 Pct
Baltic	23.00 Pct
West_Med	22.25 Pct
West_Asian	10.02 Pct
East_Med	23.18 Pct
Red_Sea	2.53 Pct
South_Asian	-    
East_Asian	0.81 Pct
Siberian	-    
Amerindian	-    
Oceanian	-    
Northeast_African	-    
Sub-Saharan	-

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Bulgarian	6.04
2	Greek_Thessaly	6.94
3	Romanian	8.63
4	Serbian	12.27
5	Central_Greek	13.5
6	Tuscan	14.19
7	Italian_Abruzzo	14.63
8	East_Sicilian	14.69
9	West_Sicilian	14.97
10	Ashkenazi	16.04
11	North_Italian	16.12
12	Moldavian	16.85
13	South_Italian	17.66
14	Croatian	19.7
15	Hungarian	20.41
16	Algerian_Jewish	22.3
17	Italian_Jewish	22.79
18	Austrian	22.96
19	Portuguese	23.12
20	Sephardic_Jewish	23.34

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	89.1%	Bulgarian	+	10.9%	Sardinian	@	4.4
2	 	83.4%	Greek_Thessaly	+	16.6%	Ukrainian	@	4.46
3	 	87.5%	Greek_Thessaly	+	12.5%	Lithuanian	@	4.48
4	 	85.8%	Greek_Thessaly	+	14.2%	Estonian_Polish	@	4.49
5	 	84.9%	Greek_Thessaly	+	15.1%	Southwest_Russian	@	4.55
6	 	84.7%	Bulgarian	+	15.3%	Algerian_Jewish	@	4.58
7	 	85.9%	Greek_Thessaly	+	14.1%	Russian_Smolensk	@	4.59
8	 	57%	Bulgarian	+	43%	Greek_Thessaly	@	4.6
9	 	85.2%	Greek_Thessaly	+	14.8%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	@	4.62
10	 	86.3%	Greek_Thessaly	+	13.7%	Belorussian	@	4.62
11	 	86.8%	Greek_Thessaly	+	13.2%	Erzya	@	4.62
12	 	83.2%	Greek_Thessaly	+	16.8%	Ukrainian_Lviv	@	4.67
13	 	78.9%	Greek_Thessaly	+	21.1%	Croatian	@	4.69
14	 	76%	Greek_Thessaly	+	24%	Moldavian	@	4.71
15	 	85.5%	Greek_Thessaly	+	14.5%	Polish	@	4.72
16	 	86.8%	Greek_Thessaly	+	13.2%	Kargopol_Russian	@	4.75
17	 	84.2%	Greek_Thessaly	+	15.8%	South_Polish	@	4.83
18	 	88.2%	Greek_Thessaly	+	11.8%	Estonian	@	4.87
19	 	81.1%	Bulgarian	+	18.9%	Ashkenazi	@	4.89
20	 	86.4%	Bulgarian	+	13.6%	Italian_Jewish	@	4.91

puntDNAL K13

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Kosovar	3.22
2	Albanian	3.79
3	Macedonian	3.93
4	Italian_Tuscan	4.34
5	Bulgarian	4.39
6	Greek_Thessaly	4.6
7	Montenegrin	6.94
8	Romanian	7.27
9	Italian_Bergamo	8.01
10	Serbian	9.12
11	Greek_Central	9.94
12	Italian_Abruzzo	10.09
13	Bosnian	12.92
14	Spaniard	13.26
15	Ashkenazy_Jew	14.43
16	Croatian	14.5
17	French	15.09
18	Moldavian	15.33
19	Italian_Sicilian	15.56
20	German_South	17.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	57.8%	Ashkenazy_Jew	+	42.2%	English	@	1.5
2	 	59.6%	Ashkenazy_Jew	+	40.4%	Orcadian	@	1.55
3	 	54.4%	Ashkenazy_Jew	+	45.6%	German_South	@	1.55
4	 	60%	Ashkenazy_Jew	+	40%	Irish	@	1.61
5	 	58.9%	Ashkenazy_Jew	+	41.1%	Scottish	@	1.64
6	 	60.5%	Greek_Central	+	39.5%	French	@	1.68
7	 	72.8%	Italian_Abruzzo	+	27.2%	Norwegian	@	1.69
8	 	69.9%	Italian_Abruzzo	+	30.1%	German_North	@	1.7
9	 	74.2%	Italian_Abruzzo	+	25.8%	Swedish	@	1.72
10	 	63.3%	Italian_Abruzzo	+	36.7%	Hungarian	@	1.72
11	 	59.2%	Italian_Abruzzo	+	40.8%	Croatian	@	1.76
12	 	60.4%	Ashkenazy_Jew	+	39.6%	Utahn_European	@	1.78
13	 	52.6%	Serbian	+	47.4%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	1.78
14	 	55.4%	Ashkenazy_Jew	+	44.6%	Belgian	@	1.79
15	 	74%	Macedonian	+	26%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	1.79
16	 	64.4%	Italian_Abruzzo	+	35.6%	Slovene	@	1.82
17	 	55.9%	Italian_Sicilian	+	44.1%	English	@	1.82
18	 	64.6%	Greek_Central	+	35.4%	Belgian	@	1.83
19	 	58.2%	Italian_Sicilian	+	41.8%	Irish	@	1.84
20	 	60.8%	Belgian	+	39.2%	Cypriot

[bained]

Another interesting thing is that except Plashiputak no Bulgarian is in the big Macedonian cluster, 2/3 are north and 1/3 are slightly south.

I'm Plashiputak lol. From central Bulgaria.

[Lioncourt]

I'm Plashiputak lol. From central Bulgaria.

I see, your results are similar to Macedonian, only slightly northern than average (a bit higher North Atlantic and a bit lower West Med).

My family lines are from Kostur and Ser that moved to Plovdiv after the population exchange. I'm doing my test after the situation with covid-19 normalizes, what I expect are results similar to the Macedonians, but who knows.

[JohnnyP]

I see, your results are similar to Macedonian, only slightly northern than average (a bit higher North Atlantic and a bit lower West Med).

My family lines are from Kostur and Ser that moved to Plovdiv after the population exchange. I'm doing my test after the situation with covid-19 normalizes, what I expect are results similar to the Macedonians, but who knows.

Do you some Macedonian ancestor ? Or you just quess ?

[Lioncourt]

Do you some Macedonian ancestor ? Or you just quess ?

100% of my ancestors actually. 4 villages around Kostur and Ser. But with Bulgarian identity.

[JohnnyP]

100% of my ancestors actually. 4 villages around Kostur and Ser. But with Bulgarian identity.

Like Macedonians but presented themselves as Bulgarians ,coz hate toward Macedonians in Greece?