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    Quote Originally Posted by Sora View Post
    Turkish Dodecad k12b results from Sivas(a province in Central-east Turkey)

    I think its important to know who was tested. Were all of them turks? Sivas has also Circassian and kurdish/zaza settlements. Or a general question: Do alevi turks and sunni turks differ? I mean for example tahtaci should score at least 10-15% eastasian, but whats with central anatolian alevis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko
    I think its important to know who was tested. Were all of them turks? Sivas has also Circassian and kurdish/zaza settlements. Or a general question: Do alevi turks and sunni turks differ? I mean for example tahtaci should score at least 10-15% eastasian, but whats with central anatolian alevis?
    Yes, they are. But one of Sivas_East results has some Meskhetian Turk ancestry (Meskhetian Turks score 0%-3% Mongoloid)

    No, they don't differ much. Only South_Asian is higher in Alevis, and this probably refers to Iranic ancestry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sora View Post
    Yes, they are. But one of Sivas_East results has some Meskhetian Turk ancestry (Meskhetian Turks score 0%-3% Mongoloid)

    No, they don't differ much. Only South_Asian is higher in Alevis, and this probably refers to Iranic ancestry
    Thanks. Interesting,although they saved many preislamic traditions they dont differ genetically.

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    Georgian

    Population
    Gedrosia 19.44 Pct
    Siberian 0.13 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 8.31 Pct
    North_European 9.26 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 7.29 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 55.56 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Zura
    3.59456534 Turk_Ahiska
    5.26670675 Georgian_Imereti
    5.48543526 Georgian_Gurian
    5.59366606 Georgian_Turkey
    5.99448079 Laz
    6.08273787 Abkhazian
    6.18304132 Georgian_Adjara
    6.64947366 Hemshin
    7.23763083 Georgian_Mingrelian
    7.66697463 Georgian_Svan

    Target: Zura
    Distance: 1.1032% / 1.10321438 | ADC: 0.25x
    42.8 Turk_Ahiska
    28.4 Georgian_Imereti
    26.6 Georgian_Gurian
    2.2 French_Basque

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    Another Trabzonian, they seem to be one of the least mongoloid people in the world (if anyone can tell me why the city never really got settled by Turks feel free to let me know):


    Gedrosian 13.54,
    Siberian 0,
    NW Afr 0,
    SE Asia 0,
    Atl_med 9.95,
    N_Euro 4.06,
    S.Asia 0.78,
    E.Africa 0,
    SW Asia 12.63,
    E.Asia 0,
    Caucasus 59.04
    SSA 0

    Distance to: Turk_Trabzon
    4.60002174 Hemshin
    4.89707055 Laz
    5.02902575 Greek_Pontus
    5.56700997 Turk_East_Black_Sea
    7.66118137 Georgian_Adjara
    8.43453615 Georgian_Turkey
    10.03840625 Turk_Ahiska
    10.21349597 Georgian_Imereti
    10.25349696 Georgia_Jews
    10.63910711 Azerbaijan_Jews
    10.92367154 Assyrian
    11.05616118 Armenian_West
    11.57833753 Armenian_East
    12.00030416 Georgian_Gurian
    12.26684148 Georgian_Mingrelian
    14.57284804 Assyrian
    14.62874567 Abkhazian
    14.69902378 Turk_East
    14.80086484 Greek_Cappadocia
    14.99957333 Georgian_Svan
    15.74016201 Druze
    15.82803209 Iranian_Jews
    16.53095883 Uzbekistan_Jews
    17.21900113 Cypriots
    17.41460881 Iraq_Jews

    Target: Turk_Trabzon
    Distance: 3.5347% / 3.53473907 | ADC: 0.25x
    88.0 Laz
    9.8 Samaritians
    2.2 Cypriots
    Last edited by Kyp; 05-08-2020 at 09:33 PM.

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    59% Caucasus is extremely high. Only some Georgians can exceed 60%. Georgians are the purest Caucasians actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    Another Trabzonian, they seem to be one of the least mongoloid people in the world (if anyone can tell me why the city never really got settled by Turks feel free to let me know):


    Gedrosian 13.54,
    Siberian 0,
    NW Afr 0,
    SE Asia 0,
    Atl_med 9.95,
    N_Euro 4.06,
    S.Asia 0.78,
    E.Africa 0,
    SW Asia 12.63,
    E.Asia 0,
    Caucasus 59.04
    SSA 0

    Distance to: Turk_Trabzon
    4.60002174 Hemshin
    4.89707055 Laz
    5.02902575 Greek_Pontus
    5.56700997 Turk_East_Black_Sea
    7.66118137 Georgian_Adjara
    8.43453615 Georgian_Turkey
    10.03840625 Turk_Ahiska
    10.21349597 Georgian_Imereti
    10.25349696 Georgia_Jews
    10.63910711 Azerbaijan_Jews
    10.92367154 Assyrian
    11.05616118 Armenian_West
    11.57833753 Armenian_East
    12.00030416 Georgian_Gurian
    12.26684148 Georgian_Mingrelian
    14.57284804 Assyrian
    14.62874567 Abkhazian
    14.69902378 Turk_East
    14.80086484 Greek_Cappadocia
    14.99957333 Georgian_Svan
    15.74016201 Druze
    15.82803209 Iranian_Jews
    16.53095883 Uzbekistan_Jews
    17.21900113 Cypriots
    17.41460881 Iraq_Jews

    Target: Turk_Trabzon
    Distance: 3.5347% / 3.53473907 | ADC: 0.25x
    88.0 Laz
    9.8 Samaritians
    2.2 Cypriots
    Some Turks from Trabzon also score East Eurasian. You can check Turkish outlier average,

    https://turkishdnaproject.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    Another Trabzonian, they seem to be one of the least mongoloid people in the world (if anyone can tell me why the city never really got settled by Turks feel free to let me know
    Its easy: may many diagree, but whether you like or not turks havnt anything against nonturks and yes also christians. Tranzon were once a christian city. After conquering city the people didnt make problems and lived their live(yes they do even they gave taxes). So turks wantad that this situation remaind unchanged so they didnt settle any turks. And lazes were a mountain people, i wouldnt say they were totally isolated but much more than many others in Ottoman Empire. The black sea mountains are difficult to access, but offer good conditions self supply. The climate and land is the best of all tukey, unfortunately very hilly. Also they have aown character, intermarriage were sometimes difficult, a relative of me marries a trabzon guy and we definitely see many differences between us. Just on the border to Giresun and gümüshane, maybe bayburt you would find Turkic settlement where the people could score 3-10% east asian.

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    Tunceli Kurd

    Gedrosian: 23.73
    Siberian: 1.54
    Northwest_African: 0.69
    Southeast_Asian: 0.00
    Atlantic_Med: 9.93
    North_European: 10.54
    South_Asian 2.71
    East_African 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 13.09
    East_Asian: 0.00
    Caucasian: 37.48
    SSA: 0.39

    Distance to: Tunceli
    4.56053725 Kurd_Kurmanji
    5.08465338 Azerbaijani_Iran
    5.22157064 Azerbaijani
    5.97999164 Zaza
    6.26890740 Kurd_Sorani
    6.46187279 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    7.01412147 Turkmen_Iraq
    7.10636335 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    7.31635838 Turk_Southeast
    8.68031105 Iranian_Fars
    8.70906424 Iranian
    8.78725213 Kurds
    8.82223328 Kurd
    8.85948080 Kurd_KAZ
    8.90918066 Lur_Iran
    9.67938015 Iran_Central_East
    10.11877463 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    10.16557918 Turk_Central_East
    10.64160702 Iranians
    10.73999534 Turk_East
    10.81988447 Turk_South
    10.84210312 Iran_Khorasan
    11.47476797 Turk_Central_West
    11.59268735 Turk_Anatolia
    12.24539914 Uzbekistan_Jews

    Target: Tunceli
    Distance: 1.0498% / 1.04978266 | ADC: 0.25x
    90.0 Kurd_Kurmanji
    3.4 German
    2.6 Yagnobi
    2.0 Tabasaran
    1.6 Swedish
    0.4 Iran_Central_East

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    @Kyp Snow, what would be the highest South_Asian % in Azerbaijan? At least based on what you've seen.

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