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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspirin View Post
    Definitely, average Moldavian have 4% South Asian.
    Not funny and I wasn't trolling. I'm not blind and can see the South Asian. If it weren't for that part the results would be fairly Moldovan. And for that matter, Tzigane ancestry is more common in Romanian-speaking areas than in Russian-speaking. At least in relative numbers if not absolute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Found some interesting kit. I wonder if she has actual Moldovan ancestry or that's just a false signal
    Quote Originally Posted by Aspirin View Post
    Definitely, average Moldavian have 4% South Asian.
    Just because they might score like a Moldovan, doesn't make them one. If you mix a Greek and a Lithuanian, you will more or less get a Moldovan/Eastern Romanian.

    Do these names look Moldovan to you?

    Email:
    Kit Number: RJ7520263
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    Kit Number: ZV3935167
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    Kit Number: LY3203723
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    The email points to a Russian from Moscow.
    Last edited by Ion Basescul; 05-17-2020 at 08:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Just because they might score like a Moldovan, doesn't make them one. If you mix a Greek and a Lithuanian, you will more or less get a Moldovan/Eastern Romanian.

    Do these names look Moldovan to you?
    I wasn't saying that person is supposed to be a full Moldovan. Then again, Moldovan ancestry isn't something super rare in Russia, especially in cosmopolitan Moscow. It isn't very common either but can be found nevertheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    I wasn't saying that person is supposed to be a full Moldovan. Then again, Moldovan ancestry isn't something super rare in Russia, especially in cosmopolitan Moscow. It isn't very common either but can be found nevertheless.
    She's not Moldovan, as in ethnic, at all. Her native language is Russian and she didn't list Romanian on the CV. If Vitaliy is her husband, then he scores like a West Ukrainian. Alfred Bodrov looks like a half German, so perhaps a descendant of one of the German prisoners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Not funny and I wasn't trolling. I'm not blind and can see the South Asian. If it weren't for that part the results would be fairly Moldovan. And for that matter, Tzigane ancestry is more common in Romanian-speaking areas than in Russian-speaking. At least in relative numbers if not absolute.
    In Moldova it's the other way around, i.e. more common in Russian-speaking areas as Romas themselves are likelier to be Russian rather than Romanian speakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    She's not Moldovan, as in ethnic, at all. Her native language is Russian and she didn't list Romanian on the CV. If Vitaliy is her husband, then he scores like a West Ukrainian. Alfred Bodrov looks like a half German, so perhaps a descendant of one of the German prisoners.
    Okay. I apologize if my post was offensive. Is that because of the South Asian? Tomorrow I'll post a Belorussian claiming he is Moldovan
    Why prisoners, lol. There were almost two million Volga Germans in the Soviet Union. Another baseless claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    In Moldova it's the other way around, i.e. more common in Russian-speaking areas as Romas themselves are likelier to be Russian rather than Romanian speakers.
    I mean in RELATIVE numbers. Romania has way more than Russia per capita.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Okay. I apologize if my post was offensive. Is that because of the South Asian? Tomorrow I'll post a Belorussian claiming he is Moldovan
    Why prisoners, lol. There were almost two million Volga Germans in the Soviet Union. Another baseless claim.
    Ah, it's not about South Asian at all. It's not like we don't have Moldovans in our spreadsheet with that amount of South Asian. I would have thought that she's Moldovan too, but this is why it's important to verify the kits.

    I was suspicious because of the forename firstly, Lyubov, which to me came as a clue that she is at least half Russophone (be it Russian, Ukrainian, Gagauz, Bulgarian, Gypsy, Jewish, etc.). Then the next clue came when I looked her kit up and saw that the surname is Russian. Then I saw her related kits, which are also all non-Moldovan ethnics. Then the last hint came when I actually found her online as a person from Moscow for whom Russian is listed as Native language and German as beginner. Romanian is nowhere to be seen, even at beginner level.
    Therefore, there's no clue to point at her tracing any part of ancestry from Moldova.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    I mean in RELATIVE numbers. Romania has way more than Russia per capita.
    We don't have any migration from Romania. Moldova is way poorer and in Moldova there are less than 10k.

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    Number % Number % Number % Number % Number % Number %
    Moldovans8 1,886,566 65.4 2,303,916 64.6 2,525,687 63.9 2,794,749 64.5 2,742,231 69.6 2,068,058 75.1
    Romanians 1,663 0.1 1,581 0.0 1,657 0.0 2,477 0.1 73,529 1.9 192,800 7.0
    Ukrainians 420,820 14.6 506,560 14.2 560,679 14.2 600,366 13.8 442,475 11.2 181,035 6.6
    Gagauzians 95,856 3.3 124,902 3.5 138,000 3.5 153,548 3.5 151,596 3.8 126,010 4.6
    Russians 292,930 10.2 414,444 11.6 505,730 12.8 562,069 13.0 369,896 9.4 111,726 4.1
    Bulgarians 61,652 2.1 73,776 2.1 80,665 2.0 88,419 2.0 79,520 2.0 51,867 1.9
    Romani 7,265 0.3 9,235 0.3 10,666 0.3 11,571 0.3 12,778 0.3 9,323 0.3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Okay. I apologize if my post was offensive. Is that because of the South Asian? Tomorrow I'll post a Belorussian claiming he is Moldovan
    Why prisoners, lol. There were almost two million Volga Germans in the Soviet Union. Another baseless claim.
    She could be that Belorussian .

    I'm looking at her matches and there's a certain Sherbakov (same family) that's her relative at 28cM. He has a family tree and is from Belarus on both sides.

    HIDDEN HIDDEN, HIDDEN
    /
    Alexander Parfirievich Sherbakov, b. 10 MAY 1933, Belarus, d. ABT 1993, Belarus
    /
    HIDDEN HIDDEN, b. HIDDEN
    \
    | HIDDEN HIDDEN
    | /
    | Stanislav Stanislavovich Galkiewicz, b. ABT 1910, Belarus, Belarus
    | / \
    | | HIDDEN
    \ /
    Sofia Stanislavovna Galkiewicz, b. 20 DEC 1933, Belarus, d. ABT 1993, Belarus
    \
    | HIDDEN HIDDEN
    \ /
    Lidia Petrovna Butskiewicz, b. ABT 1913, Belarus



    Maybe she's an orphan from Moldova, who was adopted by a family from Moscow? But that's a wild guess without any proofs, especially exacerbated by the fact that she doesn't appear to match anyone from Moldova or Romania or Ukraine in her closest matches.

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