Slavic G25 (ancient) calculator

[Lucas]

I just wonder Lukasz, do you think you really have significant Baltic admix or is this just shared Balto-Slavic ancestry in BA before groups separated? I did thest those samples I chosed and they are all firmly closest to modern day Balts, but I am suspicious you score less Slavic than I do.

That is why I start to doubt how much reliable these samples are.

No samples are good, I'm just Baltic shifted more than average.

[Jana]

I always score lot of BA Croatian btw, unlike other Croats. When modeling with moderns I always get something Basque like/SW French/Iberian, unlike other south slavs.

Now question is do I have more pressrved BA Croatian ancestry than other south slavs because BA samples were very SW Euro like, or it is just my western euro side which makes it so?

I don't know the answer and even played with idea my Alsatian German side has some French roots, maybe from SW France or something so that is why I score like that.

But that is too small part of my ancestry to explain why my non Slavic side is so SW and not SE like in most other people.

Maybe Dalmatian islanders really preserved more of this BA Croatian ancestry than mainland south slav groups.

[Ion Basescul]

Those results aren't the best examples


Because Ireland, Britain and West Euro ancestry are similar for those family as we see, and could be interchangeable to large extent. Look that their Finnish level is stable for example

Look at Asia then. Well, in any case, this is far from being uncommon. Just find some kits of families and you will see.
Another example is how I shift towards W. Europe compared to my parents' average, and their average pulls towards E. Europe instead. I also score as much East Asian as my mom, whereas my dad has less, so the average should theoretically be lower.
I recall off the top of my head that another Polish user had a similar inconsistency. In his case, he was scoring more Med than his parents' average.

[Peterski]

This is the breakdown for Slavic samples (I see that you used Av1 and Av2 average, rather than just one of them):



For comparison here is what I scored in a model Aren proposed, where he used only Sunghir6 as the Slavic sample:

(the last one is Polish average)



^^^
In this model Wlkp3 scores 29% DEU_MA, while in your model all of this goes into Czech Slav and Avars Hungary.

[Jana]

I already said in next update only individual samples will be used instead of averages for very same reason.

[Peterski]

But you know what is interesting? That in PCA, none of the Wielkopolskans plot in this area:



I wonder which regions of Poland are the Polish samples that plot in this area on the PCA.

[Karol Klačansky]

This is the breakdown for Slavic samples (I see that you used Av1 and Av2 average, rather than just one of them):



For comparison here is what I scored in a model Aren proposed, where he used only Sunghir6 as the Slavic sample:

(the last one is Polish average)



^^^
In this model Wlkp3 scores 29% DEU_MA, while in your model all of this goes into Czech Slav and Avars Hungary.

Can you share the source pops here.

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[Peterski]

Can you share the source pops here.

The source pops for what? Aren's model? I think it was only those 4 visible (Bylany, DEU_MA, Rome_Imperial, Sunghir_MA).

[Karol Klačansky]

The source pops for what? Aren's model? I think it was only those 4 visible (Bylany, DEU_MA, Rome_Imperial, Sunghir_MA).

yea man im just a lazy bastard.

[Polrebby]

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