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    puntDNAL K13 Global 4-Ancestors Oracle
    This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
    Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
    Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
    Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

    puntDNAL K13 Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE_Europe 50.64
    2 SW_Europe 28.38
    3 West_Asia 10.72
    4 SW_Asia 7.75
    5 East_Africa 1.03


    Finished reading population data. 191 populations found.
    13 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Slovak @ 4.371104
    2 Ukrainian @ 5.319509
    3 Slovene @ 5.842872
    4 German_North @ 6.350294
    5 Hungarian @ 7.574000
    6 Utahn_European @ 8.698928
    7 Moldavian @ 8.836346
    8 Irish @ 9.415438
    9 English @ 9.580272
    10 Norwegian @ 9.602077
    11 Croatian @ 9.791409
    12 Orcadian @ 9.845390
    13 Belarusian @ 9.960278
    14 Scottish @ 10.143045
    15 Swedish @ 10.266976
    16 Bosnian @ 10.703178
    17 Belgian @ 11.440015
    18 German_South @ 11.630239
    19 Mordovian @ 13.727120
    20 Polish @ 14.554538

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Latvian +50% Macedonian @ 2.596100


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Latvian +25% Sephardic_Jew +25% Utahn_European @ 1.568999


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++
    1 Latvian + Latvian + Sephardic_Jew + Utahn_European @ 1.568999
    2 Latvian + Lithuanian + Sephardic_Jew + Utahn_European @ 1.725837
    3 Latvian + Polish + Sephardic_Jew + Swedish @ 1.747302
    4 German_North + Latvian + Latvian + Sephardic_Jew @ 1.801581
    5 Estonian + Latvian + Sephardic_Jew + Swedish @ 1.801788
    6 Estonian + Estonian + Sephardic_Jew + Swedish @ 1.816859
    7 German_North + Latvian + Lithuanian + Sephardic_Jew @ 1.818862
    8 Estonian + Lithuanian + Sephardic_Jew + Swedish @ 1.852498
    9 Belarusian + Estonian + Polish + Sephardic_Jew @ 1.858456
    10 Estonian + Latvian + Norwegian + Sephardic_Jew @ 1.859883
    11 Lithuanian + Polish + Sephardic_Jew + Swedish @ 1.863235
    12 Estonian + German_North + Latvian + Sephardic_Jew @ 1.874974
    13 German_North + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Sephardic_Jew @ 1.876724
    14 Belarusian + Estonian + Estonian + Sephardic_Jew @ 1.905977
    15 Latvian + Lithuanian + Norwegian + Sephardic_Jew @ 1.911996
    16 Latvian + Russian + Sephardic_Jew + Swedish @ 1.914774
    17 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Sephardic_Jew + Utahn_European @ 1.914970
    18 Belgian + Finnish + Italian_Sicilian + Lithuanian @ 1.924592
    19 Belgian + Finnish + Italian_Abruzzo + Polish @ 1.924661
    20 Irish + Latvian + Latvian + Sephardic_Jew @ 1.925246

    Done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenka View Post
    Your Eurogenes K15 plotting:
    Very Austro-Hungarian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenka View Post
    Your Eurogenes K15 plotting:
    Doesn't this contradict the findings of post #62? Which calculator is the most accurate one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    Doesn't this contradict the findings of post #62? Which calculator is the most accurate one?
    K15 is not as good as K13. It's components aren't well balanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenka View Post
    Try the Eurogenes K36. There's a cool similarity map for that.
    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian 0.68 Pct
    Armenian -
    Basque -
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 6.73 Pct
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 4.58 Pct
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 20.56 Pct
    East_Med 8.11 Pct
    Eastern_Euro 16.92 Pct
    Fennoscandian 6.52 Pct
    French 7.22 Pct
    Iberian 6.86 Pct
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 5.43 Pct
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 9.74 Pct
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea 6.65 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    Doesn't this contradict the findings of post #62? Which calculator is the most accurate one?
    For me K15 seems pretty good, however it may just be that the K15 component balance is better suited to my mix. It models me more German/Hungarian vs. the NW + Balkan modeling I get on most other calculators. Or it could be that I really am more a NW/Balkan mix and K15 is ironically incorrect?

    Anyway, just something for you to think about as you consider the accuracy of the various calcs.


    Mr.G - Eurogenes K15

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 61.2% Hungarian + 38.8% Southwest_English @ 3.02
    2 61.9% Hungarian + 38.1% Southeast_English @ 3.03
    3 63.6% Hungarian + 36.4% Irish @ 3.13
    4 67.2% Hungarian + 32.8% Orcadian @ 3.21
    5 65.2% Hungarian + 34.8% West_Scottish @ 3.32
    6 62.5% Swedish + 37.5% Bulgarian @ 3.38
    7 60.8% Hungarian + 39.2% North_Dutch @ 3.44
    8 50.5% Hungarian + 49.5% South_Dutch @ 3.44
    9 50.1% West_German + 49.9% Hungarian @ 3.46

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    Doesn't this contradict the findings of post #62? Which calculator is the most accurate one?
    K36 IMO, but most are trash. K13 is better than most because it has a lot of relevant regional references. In this aspect, it is even better than Global 25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    K36 IMO, but most are trash. K13 is better than most because it has a lot of relevant regional references. In this aspect, it is even better than Global 25.
    K36 has some very unnatural components like FennoScandian or French...
    References are fucked up too, it has Bosnia more southern than Serbia and many other things.

    High K calculators are often shit in my view.

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    Why am I consistently getting jewish and other mena results with 2, 3 and 4 population approximations? The ashkenazi admixture could be real?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    Doesn't this contradict the findings of post #62? Which calculator is the most accurate one?
    Dodecad K12b is okay for you. I'm one of its few proponents on here (a voice in the wilderness, lol)

    Distance to: Universe
    3.96524905 Hungarians
    4.09243204 Slovak
    6.51191984 Ukrainian
    6.53979357 Slovenian
    6.99993571 Sorb_Lusatia
    8.59783112 Croat
    8.98968298 Rus_Smolensk
    9.12946877 PL_Mazovia
    9.47413848 Bosnian
    9.81277229 Belorussian

    Target: Universe
    Distance: 2.3433% / 2.34325043 | ADC: 0.5x
    70.0 Hungarians
    29.4 Ukrainian
    0.6 Mozabite

    Target: Universe
    Distance: 1.6364% / 1.63638293 | ADC: 0.25x
    72.4 Hungarians
    16.8 Ukrainian
    9.0 Mixed_Slav
    1.2 Mozabite
    0.4 Yemen_Jews
    0.2 Moroccan

    Basically a Slavic-shifted Hungarian.

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