Y-DNA of Iberia

[dududud]

No creo que la Dama de Elche parezca mongoloide, mas bien todo lo contrario, yo creo que tenia los ojos bastante redondos, muy mediterraneos, y tendria mucho sentido dado que los iberos eran, mas o menos, como los sardos de hoy en dia, o sea, extremadamente mediterraneos.

Pure (central) Sardinians have fewer North African phenotypes. They are much more European and Basque-like than the weird "Spanish" phenotypes that would be considered Arab where I live.

EEF doesn't look north african, they looks normal european.

You are completely wrong, and writing in Spanish will not save you.

You must have a lot of extra-European contribution.
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[Damião de Góis]

Hoping for more samples. Right now Z225 is prevalent in north iberia

I would like to see a proper distribution study about it. So far we are two people from southern Portugal in the forum and we both have it.

[Luso]

I would like to see a proper distribution study about it. So far we are two people from southern Portugal in the forum and we both have it.

I hope more people from southern Portugal also become interested in DNA tests and Haplogroups That would be nice... I literally don't think I've seen another algarve result online. I do have samples from my extended family I could eventually gather which could help our sample size. May eventually convert some of their data to g25 in the near future as well.

[Defcon2]

Pure (central) Sardinians have fewer North African phenotypes. They are much more European and Basque-like than the weird "Spanish" phenotypes that would be considered Arab where I live.

EEF doesn't look north african, they looks normal european.

You are completely wrong, and writing in Spanish will not save you.

You must have a lot of extra-European contribution.
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[Luso]

I wouldn't mind looking like that

[Rocinante]

Pure (central) Sardinians have fewer North African phenotypes. They are much more European and Basque-like than the weird "Spanish" phenotypes that would be considered Arab where I live.

EEF doesn't look north african, they looks normal european.

You are completely wrong, and writing in Spanish will not save you.

You must have a lot of extra-European contribution.
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Read again my comment.

[Rocinante]

Nas is I1 dude

Nas is the most funnier J1 member of TA, no one can´t deny this.

[Rocinante]

Todo el área de La Rioja, norte de Palencia, norte de Burgos, incluso norte de Soria, mitad norte de Aragón, y Navarra, eran antiguamente zonas vasconas (cuando estaban en su máxima expansión). De hecho, hoy en día se encuentra mucha gente del norte de La Rioja con apellidos vascos muy frecuentemente.

lo q me llama la atención del DF27 es ese núcleo aislado en el nordeste de Francia, q no se explica por emigraciones históricas conocidas desde Iberia hacia allá. sin embargo, hay varios estudios que prueban que vinieron celtas desde ese zona y Bélgica hacia Iberia. De hecho, se sabe incluso de nombres de estos pueblos, como los sefes. Así que quien sabe si fue allí el origen del DF27 pq a la inversa no hay explicación de movimiento importante de poblaciones.

Y tienes toda la razon, porque ese U152 lleva bastante tiempo presente en Iberia al parecer, y lo del Noreste de Francia, mira esto:



Hay una muy decente cantidad de DF27 presente en el Noreste de Francia, indicando que la ruta de los Bell Beakers o celtas que vinieron a Iberia, pudieron haber partido desde ese punto y que un puñado se quedaran ahi. Paso algo similar con el Noreste de Alemania y el L21 que se fue a islas britanicas.

Por otro lado, es muy comun que la genetica riojana, las muestras arrojen una cantidad de vasco impresionante, mas que cualquier cantabro.

Estos dos son del poblado celtíbero de La Hoya, en Laguardia (Álava), supuestamente de los Berones, en la edad del hierro ya.

Iberia_North_IA:I3758,0.125205,0.146236,0.06675,0.013889,0.053241,0.003347,-0.004465,0.002308,0.030474,0.034989,0.001624,0.008393,-0.017691,-0.00812,0.013843,-0.007292,-0.02047,0.00114,-0.00352,-0.002751,0.003494,0.000618,-0.008134,-0.016508,-0.002994
Iberia_North_IA:I3759,0.125205,0.140143,0.063356,0.009044,0.062781,0.003347,-0.00235,0.006692,0.02168,0.034989,-0.006008,0.009292,-0.016204,-0.008945,0.0076,0.007425,0.003912,0.000633,0.003268,0.001251,0.012977,0.004081,-0.006039,-0.007109,-0.009221

I3759 (hombre)I2a1a1a /H1
I3758(mujer) U5b1

Target: Iberia_North_IA:I3758
Distance: 3.4723% / 0.03472343
53.2 Early_European_Farmer
22.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
18.8 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
5.2 Eastern_Hunter-Gatherer
0.8 Iberomaurusian

Target: Iberia_North_IA:I3759
Distance: 2.8605% / 0.02860501
54.8 Early_European_Farmer
25.4 Steppe_Pastoralist
19.2 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
0.6 Northeastern_Asia_Neolithic

Mi madre, solo con esas dos referencias:

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.9457% / 0.02945672
78.8 Iberia_North_IA:I3758
21.2 Iberia_North_IA:I3759

Distance to: gixajo_mom_scaled
0.03056614 Iberia_North_IA:I3758
0.04219078 Iberia_North_IA:I3759

[Teutonski]

Nas is the most funnier J1 member of TA, no one can´t deny this.

What

Nas is I1, no joke.

He did a DNA tesr for a american tv show

prob male slave owner ancestor

[Rocinante]

What

Nas is I1, no joke.

He did a DNA tesr for a american tv show

prob male slave owner ancestor

Sorry man i thought you meant Nassbean, i didn't know who was Nas till i googled him.