G25 Scaled "aproximate" version of "Andre's K13 Vahaduo calculator " for Balkans.

[Grace O'Malley]

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.6858% / 0.02685787
40.2 Germanic:German12
35.8 Germanic:German78
11.6 Germanic:German77
6.4 Germanic:German13
6.0 Germanic:German79

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.6858% / 0.02685787
100.0 Germanic

Not for me so I'll just be a test subject.

[Gallop]

Yo en Gedmatch Q t Machine no he obtenido resultados con Tarofalt así que a los resultados que nos dan en G25 le pueden dar por culo, no sé lo que habrán hecho con las coordenadas pero confío más en la comparación de Gedmatch y en mi intuición femenina al respecto de Tarofalt, Taforalt o como coño se llame.

[gixajo]

FTDNA gave me 10% in that area

I got 3%, with the MyHeritage raw data, I don't think it indicates any clear ancestry from that area, but I can't deny it either.

[Gallop]

I got 3%, with the MyHeritage raw data, I don't think it indicates any clear ancestry from that area, but I can't deny it either.

Tendrás tropecientos mil Ilirios en MTA como todos nuestros paísanos, los scy197b, 300, 301 e.t.c de Moldava que eran tan particulares, Dalmacian, yo por lo menos he sacado un montonaco.

[mitalit]

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.8354% / 0.02835401
51.2 North_Paleo_Balkan
47.2 Germanic
1.6 Altaic

[gixajo]

Yo en Gedmatch Q t Machine no he obtenido resultados con Tarofalt así que a los resultados que nos dan en G25 le pueden dar por culo, no sé lo que habrán hecho con las coordenadas pero confío más en la comparación de Gedmatch y en mi intuición femenina al respecto de Tarofalt Taforalt o como coño se llame.

¿Qué quieres que te cuente que no sepamos ya todos? Nos han unido a esa referencia, no habrá modelo para Ibéricos en la que falte. Es lo que hay, a mí francamente me importa un bledo.

[gixajo]

too many samples for a Balkan calc also some samples are not that Germanic:
Andre used only 4 samples and clear samples.

Target: Germanic:German13
Distance: 2.6753% / 0.02675261 | ADC: 0.5x
46.2 Polish
26.8 Swedish
13.6 Cossack_Ukrainian
9.8 German_East
2.4 Finnish
1.2 Lithuanian_PZ


Target: Germanic:German77
Distance: 1.9630% / 0.01962988 | ADC: 0.5x
38.2 Norwegian
21.8 Czech
20.8 Slovakian
14.0 German
5.2 Icelandic


Target: Germanic:German9
Distance: 3.0100% / 0.03010035 | ADC: 0.5x
34.4 Welsh
24.6 Slovakian
12.0 Danish
12.0 French_Pas-de-Calais
12.0 German
4.4 Dutch
0.6 Norwegian

So we can put averages if you prefer, or I can add my average with German+Dutch, lets see now the west germany reference form k13 and do the same:

Target: German_West
Distance: 0.2863% / 0.28632205
52.2 Norwegian
18.4 Southwest_English
5.6 Bulgarian_Burgas
5.0 AostaValley
4.4 Macedonian_Greece
3.8 Welsh
3.2 Macedonian_North
3.2 Swiss_German
1.2 Albanian_Montenegro
1.0 Austrian
0.6 Trentino
0.4 North-Dutch
0.2 Ethiopian_Gumuz
0.2 Laz
0.2 She
0.2 South_Polish
0.2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

[17571imre]

So we can put averages if you prefer, or I can add my average with German+Dutch, lets see now the west germany reference form k13 and do the same:

Target: German_West
Distance: 0.2863% / 0.28632205
52.2 Norwegian
18.4 Southwest_English
5.6 Bulgarian_Burgas
5.0 AostaValley
4.4 Macedonian_Greece
3.8 Welsh
3.2 Macedonian_North
3.2 Swiss_German
1.2 Albanian_Montenegro
1.0 Austrian
0.6 Trentino
0.4 North-Dutch
0.2 Ethiopian_Gumuz
0.2 Laz
0.2 She
0.2 South_Polish
0.2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

i think its a good idea from you to put German and Dutch as an average or maybe just the Dutch average could also work. yes but that is with 0 ADC use 0.5 ADC because there are so many samples in K13 source then you will get rid of all those little precentages.

[Defcon2]

As Spaniards we are basically half-moors, I add Mar_Taforalt references to obtain better distances:

MAR_Taforalt:TAF009,-0.162767,0.07718,-0.024513,-0.079135,0.009848,-0.047969,-0.052877,0.020538,0.13294,0.002005,0.025333,-0.026676,0.057978,-0.052985,0.072882,-0.034076,0.002347,-0.05625,-0.130475,0.04152,-0.026204,-0.120314,0.067909,-0.016508,0.012334
MAR_Taforalt:TAF010,-0.193499,0.083273,-0.03017,-0.088502,0.034776,-0.055499,-0.076378,0.019384,0.163619,0.008565,0.02111,-0.030573,0.07879,-0.046104,0.077496,-0.046141,-0.00665,-0.069805,-0.144176,0.036518,-0.042924,-0.129217,0.07629,-0.015303,0.018322
MAR_Taforalt:TAF011,-0.194638,0.085304,-0.021873,-0.088825,0.026774,-0.059961,-0.072148,0.019845,0.161165,0.002551,0.016564,-0.035818,0.080574,-0.051196,0.066367,-0.037523,0.012126,-0.071199,-0.14493,0.035767,-0.041427,-0.12662,0.068279,-0.011447,0.018441
MAR_Taforalt:TAF013,-0.196914,0.082258,-0.026398,-0.088502,0.032314,-0.057173,-0.074733,0.017768,0.156665,0.002369,0.02111,-0.036717,0.077898,-0.052159,0.072746,-0.038584,0.000913,-0.069552,-0.141285,0.039894,-0.035687,-0.125384,0.075428,-0.011206,0.020477
MAR_Taforalt:TAF014,-0.201467,0.079211,-0.018479,-0.083011,0.034468,-0.055499,-0.076848,0.014538,0.162596,0.002005,0.020461,-0.029374,0.078344,-0.054223,0.066503,-0.025192,0.017602,-0.063724,-0.151215,0.04127,-0.042176,-0.126126,0.077153,-0.014339,0.012693

The old North African trick, why don't you use guanche?

[gixajo]

i think its a good idea from you to put German and Dutch as an average or maybe just the Dutch average could also work. yes but that is with 0 ADC use 0.5 ADC because there are so many samples in K13 source then you will get rid of all those little precentages.

I was having lunch, sorry.

I made the model in 5 minutes, so I didn´t check well all the sources, simply I posted them. I will post the new references.

It's funny that you think that's the only dubious reference, don´t you find dubious two modern Italian samples to represent ancient Balkans but you think that German reference is not enough Germanic?

The people here never cease to amaze me.