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Thread: Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aren View Post
    Interesting find. Iranian, presumably from Shiraz. I don't know what the ethnic makeup of the region is but his results look a bit strange? Possibly damaged dna.

    Gedrosia 22.97 Pct
    Siberian 0.20 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 0.61 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 7.39 Pct
    North_European 11.64 Pct
    South_Asian 5.28 Pct
    East_African 0.32 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 12.42 Pct
    East_Asian 2.16 Pct
    Caucasus 36.49 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 0.53 Pct

    5.66013251 Azerbaijani
    5.90033897 Azerbaijani_Iran
    7.06385164 Kurd_Kurmanji
    7.31299528 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    7.39908778 Kurd_Sorani
    7.92219035 Iranian_Fars
    8.04357508 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    8.26445400 Zaza
    8.27053203 Iran_Khorasan
    8.40800809 Turk_Southeast
    8.61261865 Turkmen_Iraq
    9.44073620 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    9.64554301 Iranian
    10.02115762 Lur_Iran
    10.53056979 Kurd_KAZ
    11.30428237 Turk_South
    11.30551635 Turk_Central_East
    11.48785881 Udi_Azerbaijan
    11.86711844 Iran_Mazandaran
    12.28418902 Turk_Anatolia
    12.33691209 Turk_Central_West
    12.56476024 Turk_East
    12.90041085 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    13.63829535 Turkmen_Iran
    13.86193709 Turk_West_BlackSea

    Target: X
    Distance: 1.9632% / 1.96323184 | ADC: 0.25x
    42.2 Kurd_Sorani
    19.6 Azerbaijani
    13.6 Iran_Khorasan
    12.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    6.0 Balkan_Gypsy
    4.8 Tabasaran
    1.6 Lithuanian
    Looks normal. Probably has some tork ancestry (very common all over Iran). But certainly not the average for Shiraz, as you can see by the distances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    Looks normal. Probably has some tork ancestry (very common all over Iran). But certainly not the average for Shiraz, as you can see by the distances.
    I'm thinking he has low Gedrosia for a Persian but low East Asian and low Caucasus to be Azeri shifted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aren View Post
    I'm thinking he has low Gedrosia for a Persian but low East Asian and low Caucasus to be Azeri shifted.
    Maybe ask the person, idk. There were also Turkish-tribes in South of Iran who are mostly completely assimilated by now (except Qashqai). He has 3% East Eurasian could be 1/4 Azeri too or half. There are also full Azeris who are only around 36% Caucasus. A large percentage of Azerbaijanis doesn't have anything to do with Transcaucasus region. A common misconception.
    Kurdish ancestry could be possible too.

    Lots of possibilites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aren View Post
    I'm thinking he has low Gedrosia for a Persian but low East Asian and low Caucasus to be Azeri shifted.
    Probably Anatolian ancestry, a substantial port if Azerbaijanis/ tribes in Iran are descending from Anatolian Turks. Probably the reason why the person is clustering with Kurds/Zazas: Big Iranian + visible Anatolian(Turk) influence.

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    Atlantic_Med 7.39 Pct
    North_European 11.64 Pct

    It's a lot for Iran but overall doesn't look damaged to me at all.

    By the way, it would interesting to find some people from Fereydoonshahr. It's the place where Iranian Georgians live. They are completely Islamicized of course and probably mixed by now but still at least half Georgians half Persians must be common.

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    Christian Palestinian from Bethlehem
    I suppose the Levant has remained nearly untouched by updates.

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 42.88
    2 Southwest_Asian 25.56
    3 Atlantic_Med 15.27
    4 Gedrosia 10.25
    5 Northwest_African 2.69
    6 East_African 1.66
    7 North_European 1.14
    8 South_Asian 0.45
    9 Sub_Saharan 0.09

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Lebanese (Behar) 5.29
    2 Syrians (Behar) 6.48
    3 Druze (HGDP) 7
    4 Jordanians (Behar) 8.16
    5 Palestinian (HGDP) 9.58
    6 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 9.82
    7 Samaritians (Behar) 11.25
    8 Cypriots (Behar) 11.9
    9 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 13.04
    10 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 14.12
    11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 14.13
    12 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 14.54
    13 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 14.88
    14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 15.99
    15 Turkish (Dodecad) 17.9
    16 Armenian (Dodecad) 17.93
    17 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 17.94
    18 Turks (Behar) 18.21
    19 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 18.85
    20 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.38

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 66.7% Syrians (Behar) + 33.3% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3
    2 52.6% Syrians (Behar) + 47.4% Druze (HGDP) @ 3.51
    3 60.9% Jordanians (Behar) + 39.1% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.75
    4 55.6% Druze (HGDP) + 44.4% Jordanians (Behar) @ 4.26
    5 56.5% Palestinian (HGDP) + 43.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 4.34
    6 64.9% Lebanese (Behar) + 35.1% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.4
    7 78.7% Lebanese (Behar) + 21.3% Samaritians (Behar) @ 4.49
    8 66.7% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 33.3% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.6
    9 81.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 18.9% Cypriots (Behar) @ 4.63
    10 61.6% Druze (HGDP) + 38.4% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 4.66
    11 96.2% Lebanese (Behar) + 3.8% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 4.77
    12 77.9% Syrians (Behar) + 22.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4.83
    13 66.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 33.4% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 4.94
    14 64.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 35.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4.95
    15 69.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 30.6% Syrians (Behar) @ 4.96
    16 81.5% Druze (HGDP) + 18.5% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 4.99
    17 84.2% Lebanese (Behar) + 15.8% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 5.05
    18 91% Lebanese (Behar) + 9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 5.07
    19 81.1% Syrians (Behar) + 18.9% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 5.09
    20 84.7% Syrians (Behar) + 15.3% Armenians (Behar) @ 5.11

    Eurogenes K13:
    1 Samaritan 2.81

    Eurogenes K15:
    1 Samaritan 4.15
    Last edited by Leto; 08-29-2020 at 01:55 PM.

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    Turk from Aydin Province:


    Gedrosian: 13.94
    Siberian: 5.07
    Northwest_African: 0.08
    Southeast_Asian: 1.45
    Atlantic_Med: 14.42
    North_European: 11.89
    South_Asian 1.78
    East_African 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 10.46
    East_Asian: 6.82
    Caucasian: 33.78
    South_African: 0.31

    Distance to: Turk_Aydin2
    2.59903828 Turk_Southwest
    3.60469139 Turk_Northwest
    4.32060181 Turk_West_BlackSea
    5.05034652 Turk_Anatolia
    5.12410968 Turk_Central_West
    5.86046073 Yoruk
    5.93600034 Turk_South
    7.39530256 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    8.27718551 Turk_Central_East
    9.39690907 Turk_Southeast
    10.79013902 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
    11.23288921 Azerbaijani
    11.79612648 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    13.13571087 Azerbaijani_Iran
    13.41991058 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
    15.29336457 Greek_Crete
    15.46394193 Turk_East
    15.79849676 Turkmen_Iraq
    16.19704294 Turkmen_Iran
    16.30030368 Kurd_Kurmanji
    16.76380029 Karachay
    16.82151598 MD_Jewish
    16.88617209 Italy_Apulia
    17.03588859 Zaza
    17.22959663 Iran_Khorasan

    Target: Turk_Aydin2
    Distance: 2.1681% / 2.16813511 | ADC: 0.5x
    96.4 Turk_Southwest
    2.4 Turk_Northwest
    0.8 Burmanese
    0.4 CHD30

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Atlantic_Med 7.39 Pct
    North_European 11.64 Pct

    It's a lot for Iran but overall doesn't look damaged to me at all.

    By the way, it would interesting to find some people from Fereydoonshahr. It's the place where Iranian Georgians live. They are completely Islamicized of course and probably mixed by now but still at least half Georgians half Persians must be common.
    Good point, i once read that Safevids settled a lot of Caucasians in Persia (Armenians/Georgians/Circissians) but i dont know whether they left genetic traces?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    Good point, i once read that Safevids settled a lot of Caucasians in Persia (Armenians/Georgians/Circissians) but i dont know whether they left genetic traces?
    They don't differ so much from Iranians genetically, in that regard a settlement from 16/17th century won't leave any traces. Settlements from Qajar and Pahlavi periods is a different story.
    Last edited by Kyp; 08-29-2020 at 05:50 PM.

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    A few Georgians in Fereydoonshahr are said to remain to this day. You can even find signs in Georgian in that city.

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