Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 2

[Kyp]

Turk from Manisa:


Gedrosian: 16.10
Siberian: 7.90
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.81
Atlantic_Med: 11.29
North_European: 10.62
South_Asian 1.43
East_African 0.51
Southwest_Asian: 11.47
East_Asian: 5.32
Caucasian: 33.55
South_African: 0.00

Distance to: Turk_Manisa2
4.93621312 Turk_Southwest
5.06771152 Turk_South
5.76314150 Turk_Anatolia
5.92339430 Yoruk
6.34626662 Turk_Central_West
6.40549764 Turk_Northwest
7.01720030 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.02495552 Turk_West_BlackSea
8.03092149 Turk_Southeast
8.24767846 Turk_Central_East
9.40621071 Azerbaijani
10.11135006 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.89760983 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.45080667 Turkmen_Iran
13.75092361 Turkmen_Iraq
13.96832488 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
14.15050176 Kurd_Kurmanji
14.79165305 Iran_Khorasan
14.80679911 Turk_East
15.15194707 Zaza
15.36876052 Kurd_Sorani
15.92629273 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.94634441 Turkmens
16.23701943 Talysh_Azerbaijan
16.65181071 Karachay

Target: Turk_Manisa2
Distance: 1.7019% / 1.70192369 | ADC: 0.25x
44.6 Turk_South
36.6 Turk_Southwest
5.6 Turk_Southeast
4.4 Turkmens
4.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
1.4 Ket
1.0 Saudis

[Bender1999]

Hey Bender, how common are settlements from Iran (Khorasan, Güney Azerbaycan) in Central Anatolia. I've now came across multiple random villages where it's said they came around 18th century from Iran.

I also know from some Azerbaijani tribes that got back into Anatolia.

I know there is a Khalaj village in the hometown from my homeparents. And there is a district in Aksaray which was founded by Khalac tribes. The province Aksaray was also well known place for camel dealers from Chorasan. One of them were some Abdals in Kirsehir, the folk singers which i showed were of them. And they came „late“ to Anatolia, at the earliest 17/18th century. Afshars, the most common Central Anatolian tribe, also migrated from there. The migration from Azerbaijan mostly happened at the beginning of Turkic presence in West Asia, so i must look whether there were other movements. I think most of us came from Chorasan, that is most common. Maybe also interesting for you, many here are descendants of Bozulus Turkmens(Akkoyunlu) who lived in Eastern Anatolia/Azerbaijan. Another reason why E-Turkey, apart from Azerbaijani/Turkmen/Qarakalpak settlements are low Turkic influenced.

Edit: the konya result, the second village is probably from chorasan turkmens founded. You can see, it is very common in Central Anatolia, but i am surprised why the person had low mongoloid. Ankara and the borderlands of Ankara/Konya have many Chorasan Turkmens, it would be cool find someone which is not mixed.

[Leto]

Iranian
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H-Z5870
J1b3

Gedrosia 26.46 Pct
Siberian 1.75 Pct
Northwest_African 0.26 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.38 Pct
North_European 5.93 Pct
South_Asian 4.62 Pct
East_African 0.98 Pct
Southwest_Asian 12.84 Pct
East_Asian 2.29 Pct
Caucasus 38.49 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Nima
3.62845697 Lur_Iran
3.88942155 Iranian
4.41522366 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.76652914 Kurd_Sorani
4.79510167 Iranian_Fars
4.79767652 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.93040471 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.99615710 Zaza
6.06898674 Kurd_KAZ
6.93491889 Turkmen_Iraq

Target: Nima
Distance: 1.2068% / 1.20680425 | ADC: 0.5x
52.0 Lur_Iran
19.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
14.8 Iran_Khorasan
9.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.2 Iranian_Fars

Target: Nima
Distance: 0.8780% / 0.87798462 | ADC: 0.25x
53.2 Lur_Iran
22.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
18.4 Iran_Khorasan
5.2 Azerbaijani
0.4 JPT30

[RatCat]

More people from Trabzon

They say they are Trabzon Turks but their closest populations are Laz. Probably they are from east side of Trabzon.

Person 1:
Gedrosia 14.40 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.33 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.37 Pct
North_European 2.87 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.59 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 61.45 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Population
5.96489732 Laz
6.02834140 Hemshin
7.36005435 Georgian_Adjara
7.78183783 Greek_Pontus
7.99574262 Georgian_Turkey
8.16931454 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.81618052 Georgian_Imereti
11.49686479 Turk_Ahiska
11.55009524 Georgia_Jews
11.66467745 Georgian_Mingrelian
11.76304807 Azerbaijan_Jews
11.99750807 Georgian_Gurian
12.66655439 Armenian_East
13.32542682 Armenian_West
14.79494846 Georgian_Svan
15.23934054 Abkhazian
16.04611479 Assyrian
16.68452277 Iranian_Jews
17.14830604 Turk_East
17.66370290 Druze
17.82363880 Udi_Azerbaijan
17.89117939 Greek_Cappadocia
18.24706278 Uzbekistan_Jews
18.67847156 Iraq_Jews
19.99818242 Cypriots

Person 2:
Gedrosia 16.07 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.06 Pct
Atlantic_Med 11.55 Pct
North_European 4.29 Pct
South_Asian 0.21 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.89 Pct
East_Asian 0.21 Pct
Caucasus 57.72 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Population
2.60965515 Laz
2.96030404 Hemshin
4.06354525 Turk_East_Black_Sea
4.27388582 Greek_Pontus
5.42839755 Georgian_Adjara
6.57332488 Georgian_Turkey
7.88186526 Turk_Ahiska
8.72161109 Georgian_Imereti
9.03904309 Armenian_East
10.40757897 Armenian_West
10.67928368 Georgian_Gurian
10.94156296 Azerbaijan_Jews
11.03459107 Georgian_Mingrelian
11.39305929 Georgia_Jews
12.92876638 Abkhazian
13.04143780 Turk_East
13.49593272 Georgian_Svan
13.80111590 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.99445605 Greek_Cappadocia
14.60543392 Assyrian
16.16866723 Uzbekistan_Jews
16.79082488 Iranian_Jews
17.76003660 Druze
17.93433021 Cypriots
18.56646708 Zaza

[Leto]

Are there any decent photos of people like that? Do they look like Armenians or Georgians? Or perhaps neither?

Also, don't forget to click Single on Vahaduo.

[RatCat]

Are there any decent photos of people like that? Do they look like Armenians or Georgians? Or perhaps neither?

Also, don't forget to click Single on Vahaduo.

I'd say these two can pass as typical Trabzonians.

[Bender1999]

Are there any decent photos of people like that? Do they look like Armenians or Georgians? Or perhaps neither?

They resemble more to Georgians than to Armenians, although ther is not that big difference. Sometimes you can see that someone is frome black sea area, sometimes there is no difference to Turks. You know hoe Erdogan looks, he is from Rize and Georgian descendant, he has a typical east black sea look.

[Bender1999]

More people from Trabzon

They say they are Trabzon Turks but their closest populations are Laz. Probably they are from east side of Trabzon.

Person 1:
Gedrosia 14.40 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.33 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.37 Pct
North_European 2.87 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.59 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 61.45 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Population
5.96489732 Laz
6.02834140 Hemshin
7.36005435 Georgian_Adjara
7.78183783 Greek_Pontus
7.99574262 Georgian_Turkey
8.16931454 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.81618052 Georgian_Imereti
11.49686479 Turk_Ahiska
11.55009524 Georgia_Jews
11.66467745 Georgian_Mingrelian
11.76304807 Azerbaijan_Jews
11.99750807 Georgian_Gurian
12.66655439 Armenian_East
13.32542682 Armenian_West
14.79494846 Georgian_Svan
15.23934054 Abkhazian
16.04611479 Assyrian
16.68452277 Iranian_Jews
17.14830604 Turk_East
17.66370290 Druze
17.82363880 Udi_Azerbaijan
17.89117939 Greek_Cappadocia
18.24706278 Uzbekistan_Jews
18.67847156 Iraq_Jews
19.99818242 Cypriots

Person 2:
Gedrosia 16.07 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.06 Pct
Atlantic_Med 11.55 Pct
North_European 4.29 Pct
South_Asian 0.21 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.89 Pct
East_Asian 0.21 Pct
Caucasus 57.72 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Population
2.60965515 Laz
2.96030404 Hemshin
4.06354525 Turk_East_Black_Sea
4.27388582 Greek_Pontus
5.42839755 Georgian_Adjara
6.57332488 Georgian_Turkey
7.88186526 Turk_Ahiska
8.72161109 Georgian_Imereti
9.03904309 Armenian_East
10.40757897 Armenian_West
10.67928368 Georgian_Gurian
10.94156296 Azerbaijan_Jews
11.03459107 Georgian_Mingrelian
11.39305929 Georgia_Jews
12.92876638 Abkhazian
13.04143780 Turk_East
13.49593272 Georgian_Svan
13.80111590 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.99445605 Greek_Cappadocia
14.60543392 Assyrian
16.16866723 Uzbekistan_Jews
16.79082488 Iranian_Jews
17.76003660 Druze
17.93433021 Cypriots
18.56646708 Zaza

First one has the highest Caucasian that i have seen in Turkey.

[Leto]

They resemble more to Georgians than to Armenians, although ther is not that big difference. Sometimes you can see that someone is frome black sea area, sometimes there is no difference to Turks. You know hoe Erdogan looks, he is from Rize and Georgian descendant, he has a typical east black sea look.

Erdogan? Really? I had no idea he was one of the assimilated. I thought he looked part Turanic or something.

[Leto]

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/51p0rvk.png

I'd say these two can pass as typical Trabzonians.

But that type of dress is not found in Turkey. "Cherkeska".