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    Sorry Kaspias but the Bulgarians are full Europeans, they have nothing to do with the Middle East or Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Sorry Kaspias but the Bulgarians are full Europeans, they have nothing to do with the Middle East or Asia.
    I think it should not be hard to realize that I posted him to compare with the Turk who are from similar regions.

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    Since Turkish results are frequently posted here, let's post a (Mainland) Greek for contrast

    Gedrosia 3.93
    Siberian -
    Northwest_African 0.50
    Southeast_Asian 0.57
    Atlantic_Med 25.65
    North_European 22.85
    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 12.74
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 33.76
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: GK
    5.79620566 Greek
    7.23361099 Italy_Apulia
    8.09586314 Turk_Macedonia
    9.02712579 Albanian_Kosovo
    9.10483388 Turk_Greece
    9.13695779 Italy_Abruzzo
    9.62031413 Italy_Lazio
    9.70034020 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
    10.14787170 Albanian_North
    10.48426659 Italy_Campania

    Target: GK
    Distance: 1.1114% / 1.11141487 | ADC: 0.25x
    65.6 Greek
    29.2 Gagauz
    4.8 Saudis
    0.4 Bulgarian

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    Target: GK
    Distance: 1.1699% / 1.16990477 | ADC: 0.25x
    65.8 Greek
    23.4 Bulgarian
    5.4 O_Italian
    5.4 Saudis
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    I think it should not be hard to realize that I posted him to compare with the Turk who are from similar regions.

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    Ok. By the way, the Bulgarian has very low North Euro. Pretty much Slav in name only.

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    Former TA member Prinses, from the East Black Sea. She is ca. 1.5% Mongoloid on multiple calculators

    Gedrosia 19.32 Pct
    Siberian 0.99 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 0.52 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 11.16 Pct
    North_European 4.65 Pct
    South_Asian 0.48 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 9.95 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 52.92 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Prinses
    4.81226558 Turk_East_Black_Sea
    5.00882222 Hemshin
    5.06247963 Turk_Ahiska
    5.42868308 Laz
    5.64457261 Armenian_East
    5.87659766 Greek_Pontus
    6.84713079 Georgian_Adjara
    7.59310213 Armenian_West
    7.67775358 Georgian_Turkey
    8.36743688 Turk_East

    Target: Prinses
    Distance: 2.6695% / 2.66950293 | ADC: 0.5x
    32.2 Georgian_Adjara
    30.2 Turk_East_Black_Sea
    21.2 Armenian_East
    16.4 Udi_Azerbaijan

    Target: Prinses
    Distance: 1.4519% / 1.45185095 | ADC: 0.25x
    58.4 Georgian_Adjara
    14.0 Armenian_West
    14.0 Udi_Azerbaijan
    10.6 Turk_East
    3.0 Sardinian


    Must be an Ahiska Turk

    Gedrosia 18.33 Pct
    Siberian -
    Northwest_African 0.73 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 10.91 Pct
    North_European 7.33 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 12.43 Pct
    East_Asian 0.20 Pct
    Caucasus 50.08 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Ispirli
    2.00883051 Armenian_East
    5.00497752 Turk_East
    5.44517217 Udi_Azerbaijan
    5.48365754 Turk_Ahiska
    5.71167226 Armenian_West
    6.00861881 Turk_East_Black_Sea
    6.88883154 Greek_Pontus
    7.51990027 Hemshin
    8.29523960 Laz
    8.47999410 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya

    Target: Ispirli
    Distance: 1.1563% / 1.15625922 | ADC: 0.5x
    76.8 Armenian_East
    13.6 Turk_Ahiska
    9.6 Udi_Azerbaijan

    Target: Ispirli
    Distance: 0.8087% / 0.80874757 | ADC: 0.25x
    68.8 Armenian_East
    21.6 Turk_Ahiska
    8.8 Udi_Azerbaijan
    0.8 Spanish_Basque

    I've found a few more Northeast Turkish kits, that region is pretty interesting IMO.

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    This Gedrosia score is very high, 71% omg. Perhaps its around what Makrani gets Iran Neolithic on G25. The oracles are crazzy for this sample; it's nearly on the dead end of the Gedrosian shift.

    Kit ES9626713 MAKRANI_HGDP00158
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Gedrosia 71.42
    2 Southwest_Asian 13.94
    3 South_Asian 7.32
    4 Atlantic_Med 3.23
    5 Southeast_Asian 1.89
    6 North_European 0.84
    7 East_African 0.68
    8 Caucasus 0.59
    9 Sub_Saharan 0.09

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    Kit PW3514791 MAKRANI_HGDP00133
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Gedrosia 69.71
    2 Southwest_Asian 13.42
    3 South_Asian 5.76
    4 Atlantic_Med 3.26
    5 Caucasus 3.02
    6 Northwest_African 1.71
    7 Sub_Saharan 1.51
    8 Siberian 1.27
    9 East_Asian 0.2
    10 East_African 0.14

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    Kit TT3920762 MAKRANI_HGDP00151
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Gedrosia 65.79
    2 Southwest_Asian 9.96
    3 South_Asian 7.89
    4 Atlantic_Med 4.44
    5 Northwest_African 4.17
    6 Sub_Saharan 3.42
    7 Southeast_Asian 2.2
    8 East_African 1.39
    9 Caucasus 0.74

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    Cappadocian Greeks

    Gedrosia 11.94
    Siberian 0.78
    Northwest_African 0.63
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 21.11
    North_European 3.51
    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 14.39
    East_Asian 0.44
    Caucasus 47.21
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Cappadocian_Greek
    3.65654208 Greek_Cappadocia
    6.64259738 Greek_Cypriot
    8.80734920 Nusayri_Turkey
    10.74177825 Armenian_West
    12.15833048 Assyrian_West
    12.19582716 Greek_Pontus
    12.21523639 Armenian_East
    12.93196427 Assyrian_South
    13.14359159 Assyrian_North
    13.19025398 Turk_East
    13.35091383 Turk_East_Black_Sea
    13.35426898 Greek_Crete
    13.38620185 Druze
    13.80910569 Azeri_Jew
    13.90506742 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
    13.90930264 Sephardic_Jews
    14.06219755 Palestinian_Christian
    14.39632245 Turk_Central_East
    14.67602807 Iraqi_Jew
    14.78290229 Syria_SW_Christian
    15.17059326 Lebanese
    15.40167199 Iranian_Jew
    15.73055625 Turk_Central_West
    16.04661647 Georgia_Jews
    16.07895830 Udi_Azerbaijan

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    Gedrosia 16.87
    Siberian -
    Northwest_African 3.76
    Southeast_Asian 1.07
    Atlantic_Med 19.88
    North_European 5.44
    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 11.74
    East_Asian 0.86
    Caucasus 40.37
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Cappadocian_Greek
    10.05768860 Greek_Cappadocia
    10.46410531 Turk_Central_East
    10.47026265 Nusayri_Turkey
    11.08732159 Greek_Cypriot
    11.14166056 Turk_Central_West
    11.53357707 Turk_Southeast
    11.57365975 Turk_East
    11.90846338 Turk_Anatolia
    12.26658469 Greek_Crete
    12.56032245 Turk_West_BlackSea
    12.65020158 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    12.77803584 Turk_South
    12.96189415 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    13.25996229 Armenian_West
    13.50809757 Azerbaijani
    13.56775958 Udi_Azerbaijan
    13.72896209 Assyrian_West
    13.80608561 Armenian_East
    13.85933260 Turk_Southwest
    13.96509219 Turkmen_Iraq
    14.08349033 Assyrian_South
    14.08803748 Azerbaijani_Iran
    14.19876755 Zaza
    14.22575481 Sephardic_Jews
    14.27237191 Assyrian_North

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaazi View Post
    This Gedrosia score is very high, 71% omg. Perhaps its around what Makrani gets Iran Neolithic on G25. The oracles are crazzy for this sample; it's nearly on the dead end of the Gedrosian shift.

    Kit ES9626713 MAKRANI_HGDP00158
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Gedrosia 71.42
    2 Southwest_Asian 13.94
    3 South_Asian 7.32
    4 Atlantic_Med 3.23
    5 Southeast_Asian 1.89
    6 North_European 0.84
    7 East_African 0.68
    8 Caucasus 0.59
    9 Sub_Saharan 0.09

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    Kit PW3514791 MAKRANI_HGDP00133
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Gedrosia 69.71
    2 Southwest_Asian 13.42
    3 South_Asian 5.76
    4 Atlantic_Med 3.26
    5 Caucasus 3.02
    6 Northwest_African 1.71
    7 Sub_Saharan 1.51
    8 Siberian 1.27
    9 East_Asian 0.2
    10 East_African 0.14

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    Kit TT3920762 MAKRANI_HGDP00151
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Gedrosia 65.79
    2 Southwest_Asian 9.96
    3 South_Asian 7.89
    4 Atlantic_Med 4.44
    5 Northwest_African 4.17
    6 Sub_Saharan 3.42
    7 Southeast_Asian 2.2
    8 East_African 1.39
    9 Caucasus 0.74

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    We are deleting Balochi, Makrani and Brahui from Vahaduo, those are inaccurate references. What you posted is just part of the data which was used to create the Gedrosia component.
    If anyone has genuine Baloch kits, make sure to share them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    We are deleting Balochi, Makrani and Brahui from Vahaduo, those are inaccurate references. What you posted is just part of the data which was used to create the Gedrosia component.
    If anyone has genuine Baloch kits, make sure to share them.
    What do you mean by inaccurate? I don't know if the score is inflated or approximate. They will certainly score 60% or more Iran Neolithic imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaazi View Post
    What do you mean by inaccurate? I don't know if the score is inflated or approximate. They will certainly score 60% or more Iran Neolithic imo.
    Gedmatch calculators are based on modern samples. When you run a kit that was used for creating a calculator reference the results will be massively skewed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Former TA member Prinses, from the East Black Sea. She is ca. 1.5% Mongoloid on multiple calculators

    Gedrosia 19.32 Pct
    Siberian 0.99 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 0.52 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 11.16 Pct
    North_European 4.65 Pct
    South_Asian 0.48 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 9.95 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 52.92 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Prinses
    4.81226558 Turk_East_Black_Sea
    5.00882222 Hemshin
    5.06247963 Turk_Ahiska
    5.42868308 Laz
    5.64457261 Armenian_East
    5.87659766 Greek_Pontus
    6.84713079 Georgian_Adjara
    7.59310213 Armenian_West
    7.67775358 Georgian_Turkey
    8.36743688 Turk_East

    Target: Prinses
    Distance: 2.6695% / 2.66950293 | ADC: 0.5x
    32.2 Georgian_Adjara
    30.2 Turk_East_Black_Sea
    21.2 Armenian_East
    16.4 Udi_Azerbaijan

    Target: Prinses
    Distance: 1.4519% / 1.45185095 | ADC: 0.25x
    58.4 Georgian_Adjara
    14.0 Armenian_West
    14.0 Udi_Azerbaijan
    10.6 Turk_East
    3.0 Sardinian


    Must be an Ahiska Turk

    Gedrosia 18.33 Pct
    Siberian -
    Northwest_African 0.73 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 10.91 Pct
    North_European 7.33 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 12.43 Pct
    East_Asian 0.20 Pct
    Caucasus 50.08 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Ispirli
    2.00883051 Armenian_East
    5.00497752 Turk_East
    5.44517217 Udi_Azerbaijan
    5.48365754 Turk_Ahiska
    5.71167226 Armenian_West
    6.00861881 Turk_East_Black_Sea
    6.88883154 Greek_Pontus
    7.51990027 Hemshin
    8.29523960 Laz
    8.47999410 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya

    Target: Ispirli
    Distance: 1.1563% / 1.15625922 | ADC: 0.5x
    76.8 Armenian_East
    13.6 Turk_Ahiska
    9.6 Udi_Azerbaijan

    Target: Ispirli
    Distance: 0.8087% / 0.80874757 | ADC: 0.25x
    68.8 Armenian_East
    21.6 Turk_Ahiska
    8.8 Udi_Azerbaijan
    0.8 Spanish_Basque

    I've found a few more Northeast Turkish kits, that region is pretty interesting IMO.
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