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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedora View Post
    The average is around 7-8% in those regions. Same for Antep. Especially the minority Sunni Kurds in those places end up getting turkified and marrieing local Turks will change it even more.
    Well we should be careful with those averages. We don’t know whether those are mixed or not, like you said there are a lot of Non-Turks. Although K.Maras has in my knowledge around 10% Kurdish population which is not colossal. Antep is a city with huge Arab minority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    Well we should be careful with those averages. We don’t know whether those are mixed or not, like you said there are a lot of Non-Turks. Although K.Maras has in my knowledge around 10% Kurdish population which is not colossal. Antep is a city with huge Arab minority.
    Most of the arab minority are syrian refugees, without there are mixed informations. The arab population in that region without syrians can't be more than 3-4% AT MOST. The city center without thema and recent kurdish migrants should be atleast 80% turkish.
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    Not sure what these two are (unrelated). Some kind of Bashkirs (they don't get a close distance to any average)? Or maybe not monoethnic at all.

    Gedrosia 8.59 Pct
    Siberian 16.26 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 4.25 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 13.81 Pct
    North_European 30.93 Pct

    South_Asian 2.02 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 1.50 Pct
    East_Asian 14.10 Pct
    Caucasus 8.54 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Target: Adlet
    Distance: 1.5740% / 1.57402705 | ADC: 0.25x
    52.0 Bashkir
    18.8 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    14.6 Tatar_Kazan
    10.6 French2
    2.4 KHV30
    1.2 Garo
    0.4 Miaozu


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    Gedrosia 9.83 Pct
    Siberian 16.35 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 3.90 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 11.41 Pct
    North_European 31.04 Pct

    South_Asian 3.64 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian -
    East_Asian 15.24 Pct
    Caucasus 8.59 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Target: Amal
    Distance: 1.8173% / 1.81731177 | ADC: 0.25x
    51.0 Bashkir
    20.8 Tatar_Kazan
    16.0 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    5.8 Burmanese
    5.0 Irish
    1.0 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
    0.4 Khasi

    The former scores 7% South Asian on Eurogenes which is pretty high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    Antep is a city with huge Arab minority.
    Are the Arabs in Turkey largely Turkified to varying degrees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Are the Arabs in Turkey largely Turkified to varying degrees?
    Idk whether all still can speak Arabic, but i don’t think that they forget their Arab ancestry. Turkeys first lady is an Arab and her husband underlines that many times. On the other hand, many are kurdified. What i can say that 1965 over 25% of Hatay was still speaking Arabic, i doubt that this numbers are lower today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    Idk whether all still can speak Arabic, but i don’t think that they forget their Arab ancestry. Turkeys first lady is an Arab and her husband underlines that many times. On the other hand, many are kurdified. What i can say that 1965 over 25% of Hatay was still speaking Arabic, i doubt that this numbers are lower today.
    Is that not a rumor she is an Arab? In Azerbaijan there are rumors the government is full of crypto Kurds and Armenians. I actually learned here that Erdogan himself is basically a Turkified Georgian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Is that not a rumor she is an Arab? I actually learned here that Erdogan himself is basically a Turkified Georgian
    No it is real. We had and still have a lot of non Turks who are leading Turkey(but don’t misunderstand me, i don’t have sth against it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    No it is real. We had and still have a lot of non Turks who are leading Turkey(but don’t misunderstand me, i don’t have sth against it).
    Well, whether or not you have something against them is not really my concern. I actually can understand that sentiment (overrepresentation of minorities, etc.).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Not sure what these two are (unrelated). Some kind of Bashkirs (they don't get a close distance to any average)? Or maybe not monoethnic at all.

    Gedrosia 8.59 Pct
    Siberian 16.26 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 4.25 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 13.81 Pct
    North_European 30.93 Pct

    South_Asian 2.02 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 1.50 Pct
    East_Asian 14.10 Pct
    Caucasus 8.54 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Target: Adlet
    Distance: 1.5740% / 1.57402705 | ADC: 0.25x
    52.0 Bashkir
    18.8 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    14.6 Tatar_Kazan
    10.6 French2
    2.4 KHV30
    1.2 Garo
    0.4 Miaozu


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    Gedrosia 9.83 Pct
    Siberian 16.35 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 3.90 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 11.41 Pct
    North_European 31.04 Pct

    South_Asian 3.64 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian -
    East_Asian 15.24 Pct
    Caucasus 8.59 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Target: Amal
    Distance: 1.8173% / 1.81731177 | ADC: 0.25x
    51.0 Bashkir
    20.8 Tatar_Kazan
    16.0 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    5.8 Burmanese
    5.0 Irish
    1.0 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
    0.4 Khasi

    The former scores 7% South Asian on Eurogenes which is pretty high.
    These are Astrakhan Tatars prolly. I have a kit which prolly belongs to the same community.

    Gedrosia 10.13 Pct
    Siberian 16.31 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 0.47 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 11.17 Pct
    North_European 29.25 Pct
    South_Asian 2.57 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 2.18 Pct
    East_Asian 14.42 Pct
    Caucasus 13.49 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Astrakhan_Tatar?
    6.79173027 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    10.63706726 Bashkir
    15.89608442 Tatar_Kazan
    16.20493443 Nogai_Astrakhan
    17.75020000 Uzbek

    Target: Astrakhan_Tatar?
    Distance: 1.5728% / 1.57281764 | ADC: 0.25x
    56.0 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    30.2 Bashkir
    12.4 Tatar_Kazan
    1.4 Pamiri_Ishkashim

    When Crimean_steppe_Tatar is excluded and 1% SE Asian is added

    Target: Astrakhan_Tatar?
    Distance: 1.1599% / 1.15986665 | ADC: 0.25x
    30.0 Tatar_Kazan
    22.6 Nogai_Astrakhan
    19.0 Bashkir
    14.8 Uzbek
    13.2 Turk_Deliorman
    0.4 Nogai_Kuban

    The higher south Asian can be explained by Agrzhan's perhaps.

    The Agrzhan (Russian: Агрыжанские татары) were a group of primarily Muslim merchants from India who operated in Astrakhan. In 1857 they numbered 107. Since then they have assimilated into the Astrakhan Tatar population.

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    Haryana Jatt
    Population
    Gedrosia 35.09%
    Siberian 1.90%
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 4.65%
    North_European 17.93%
    South_Asian 32.17%
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian -
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 8.24%
    Sub_Saharan -

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