Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 3

**Kyp** · 11-03-2020, 06:38 PM

Some results I have gathered:

Erzincan, Turkey:
Gedrosian: 20.31
Siberian: 1.33
Northwest_African: 1.14
Southeast_Asian: 0.84
Atlantic_Med: 9.16
North_European: 7.07
South_Asian: 2.24
East_African: 0.13
Southwest_Asian: 13.02
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasus: 44.58
Sub_Saharan: 0.19

Distance to: Erzincan1
3.20697677 Udi_Azerbaijan
3.58530333 Turk_East
4.64114210 Zaza

Iranian:
Gedrosian: 26.35
Siberian: 1.12
Northwest_African: 0.94
Southeast_Asian: 0.80
Atlantic_Med: 5.58
North_European: 8.11
South_Asian: 6.15
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.97
East_Asian: 3.62
Caucasus: 35.35
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: seh
4.13278357 Iranian_Fars
5.14937860 Iran_Khorasan
6.80414580 Yazidi

Iranian:
Gedrosian: 25.51
Siberian: 1.15
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 5.54
North_European: 11.63
South_Asian: 5.81
East_African: 0.66
Southwest_Asian: 14.67
East_Asian: 0.33
Caucasus: 34.34
Sub_Saharan: 0.14

Distance to: arfaei
6.06531120 Iranian_Fars
7.65724494 Kurd_Sorani
7.95338921 Iran_Khorasan

Iranian:
Gedrosian: 28.16
Siberian: 1.95
Northwest_African: 0.94
Southeast_Asian: 2.10
Atlantic_Med: 4.95
North_European: 11.45
South_Asian: 4.90
East_African: 0.39
Southwest_Asian: 11.85
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasus: 33.32
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Tabatabaei
6.47960647 Iranian_Fars
6.69233143 Iran_Khorasan
9.08274188 Yazidi

Iranian Azerbaijani:
Gedrosian: 21.83
Siberian: 1.22
Northwest_African: 2.60
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 8.75
North_European: 8.79
South_Asian: 3.74
East_African: 0.54
Southwest_Asian: 10.09
East_Asian: 5.57
Caucasus: 36.65
Sub_Saharan: 0.22

Distance to: hadi
4.54096906 Azerbaijani
4.89670297 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.60101776 Azerbaijani_Turkey

**Leto** · 11-03-2020, 06:52 PM

Interesting Iranians with 11+ percent North European!

**Leto** · 11-04-2020, 09:40 AM

Balkar originally from Jordan living and studying in the Kabardino-Balkar Republic
Photo

G2a2

Gedrosia 19.73 Pct
Siberian 4.93 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 5.22 Pct
North_European 16.97 Pct
South_Asian 0.76 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.59 Pct
East_Asian 0.6 Pct
Caucasus 47.2 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Zaid
2.78185190 Ossetian
2.83224293 Circassian
4.63042115 Kumyks
4.79380851 Ingush
5.49155716 Balkar
5.75018261 Karachay
7.14699937 Chechen
9.13411189 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.20872176 Abkhazian
11.99056296 Georgian

Target: Zaid
Distance: 1.6310% / 1.63103905 | ADC: 0.25x
75.2 Ossetian
10.2 Chechen
6.8 Abkhazian
6.2 Kurd_KAZ
1.6 Selkup

His close relative (cousin or grandfather)

Gedrosia 19.12 Pct
Siberian 3.26 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.83 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.84 Pct
North_European 15.92 Pct
South_Asian 0.66 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.13 Pct
East_Asian 1.03 Pct
Caucasus 49.21 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Mahmoud
2.22899080 Circassian
2.46058936 Ossetian
5.78345917 Kumyks
6.36048740 Ingush
6.67561233 Karachay
6.85543580 Balkar
7.75651984 Abkhazian
8.98357390 Chechen
9.65424259 Georgian
10.82714182 Turk_Ahiska

Target: Mahmoud
Distance: 1.1222% / 1.12222457 | ADC: 0.25x
43.8 Circassian
40.2 Ossetian
15.8 Georgian
0.2 Greek_Cappadocia

Target: Mahmoud
Distance: 1.2717% / 1.27167168 | ADC: 0.5x
71.6 Circassian
16.2 Ossetian
12.2 Georgian

**Kyp** · 11-05-2020, 07:56 AM

Azerbaijani from Kars, Turkey (Terekeme)

Gedrosian: 19.47
Siberian: 3.49
Northwest_African: 2.10
Southeast_Asian: 0.94
Atlantic_Med: 11.34
North_European: 9.79
South_Asian: 2.24
East_African: 1.15
Southwest_Asian: 12.17
East_Asian: 3.24
Caucasus: 34.07
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Kars
5.01937247 Turk_Southeast
5.56952422 Azerbaijani
6.21917197 Turk_South
6.80596062 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.03230403 Turk_Central_West
7.09255948 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.53205151 Turk_Central_East
8.04058456 Turk_Southwest
8.59797069 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.75405049 Turk_West_BlackSea
9.14237934 Turkmen_Iraq
9.31263121 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.83225305 Turk_Northwest
10.11917487 Yazidi
10.37227073 Kurd_Sorani
10.67096997 Syrian_B
10.75888935 Zaza
11.49518160 Iran_Khorasan
11.76527518 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.82935332 Iranian_Fars
12.01188578 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.43653087 Turk_East
13.32801936 Lur_Iran
13.34980150 Turkmen_Iran
13.35961077 Udi_Azerbaijan

Target: Azerbaijani_Kars
Distance: 1.2458% / 1.24576538 | ADC: 0.25x
76.4 Turk_Southeast
8.8 Yagnobi
8.0 Turkmen
3.6 Maghrebi
1.8 Yazidi
1.4 Spanish_Asturias

Azerbaijani from Ardabil, Iran:
Gedrosian: 19.99
Siberian: 1.95
Northwest_African: 1.37
Southeast_Asian: 1.70
Atlantic_Med: 5.91
North_European: 8.04
South_Asian: 2.84
East_African: 0.36
Southwest_Asian: 13.08
East_Asian: 4.05
Caucasus: 40.66
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Ardabil
3.88646369 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.31473058 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.53225110 Azerbaijani
6.29537926 Turk_Southeast
6.39359054 Zaza
6.48303941 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.67439885 Turkmen_Iraq
6.70554248 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.33043655 Kurd_Sorani
8.05340922 Turk_East
8.06905199 Yazidi
8.26026029 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.33084029 Turk_Central_East
9.11799320 Turk_South
9.17209355 Kurd_KAZ
9.53422257 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.82658639 Lur_Iran
9.94097078 Iranian
10.45057893 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.77961502 Iranian_Fars
10.81617308 Turk_Central_West
11.60313320 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.94014657 Syrian_B
12.11253070 Azeri_Jew
12.28458384 Armenian_East

Target: Ardabil
Distance: 1.6971% / 1.69706736 | ADC: 0.25x
82.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.8 Georgian_Svan
4.2 Yemen_Jews
1.0 Garo
0.8 Yizu
0.2 Tujia

**Fedora** · 11-05-2020, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Kyp

Some results I have gathered:

Erzincan, Turkey:
Gedrosian: 20.31
Siberian: 1.33
Northwest_African: 1.14
Southeast_Asian: 0.84
Atlantic_Med: 9.16
North_European: 7.07
South_Asian: 2.24
East_African: 0.13
Southwest_Asian: 13.02
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasus: 44.58
Sub_Saharan: 0.19

Distance to: Erzincan1
3.20697677 Udi_Azerbaijan
3.58530333 Turk_East
4.64114210 Zaza

Iranian:
Gedrosian: 26.35
Siberian: 1.12
Northwest_African: 0.94
Southeast_Asian: 0.80
Atlantic_Med: 5.58
North_European: 8.11
South_Asian: 6.15
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.97
East_Asian: 3.62
Caucasus: 35.35
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Does this get modelled as Azerbaijani/Kurd+Armenian?

**Kyp** · 11-05-2020, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Fedora

Does this get modelled as Azerbaijani/Kurd+Armenian?

You mean Erzincan?

This is the model with all of the spreadsheet:

Target: Erzincan1
Distance: 1.1149% / 1.11492641 | ADC: 0.25x
36.2 Turk_East
31.4 Udi_Azerbaijan
16.2 Zaza
8.2 Azeri_Jew
4.8 Kurd_Sorani
2.4 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.8 Juang

Target: Erzincan1
Distance: 1.5951% / 1.59512456 | ADC: 0.5x
47.2 Turk_East
33.4 Zaza
17.4 Udi_Azerbaijan
2.0 Azeri_Jew

The distances when all turkish cities are included:

Distance to: Erzincan1
3.20697677 Udi_Azerbaijan
3.58530333 Turk_East
3.99316917 Turk_Erzincan
4.61320930 Turk_Elazig
4.64114210 Zaza
5.66536848 Turk_Erzurum
6.05692166 Turk_Igdir
6.16897074 Turk_Malatya
6.18081710 Turk_Gumushane
6.25391877 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.32074363 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.49243406 Turk_Kars
6.73956230 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.75044443 Turk_Sanliurfa
6.86821665 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.97613073 Armenian_East
7.64823509 Azerbaijani
7.69373771 Turk_Sivas
7.78506262 Turkmen_Iraq
7.80446026 Turk_Giresun_South
7.95259706 Turk_Kilis
8.25713025 Turk_Southeast
8.26929864 Kurd_KAZ
8.27269605 Kurd_Sorani

Code:

ARMENIAN:Armenian_East,17.31,0.25,0.50,0.04,10.96,6.45,0.37 ,0.01,13.83,0.19,50.02,0.02 
ARMENIAN:Armenian_West,17.23,0.05,0.79,0.11,12.26,3.33,0.39,0.1,16.05,0.08,49.54,0
AZERI:Azerbaijani,20.81,2.53,0.45,0.58,9.08,9.18,2.66,0.31,12.19,3.6,38.42,0.19
AZERI:Azerbaijani_Iran,21.99,2.58,1.09,0.87,8.14,8.1,2.66,0.37,12.2,2.9,38.98,0.11
AZERI:Azerbaijani_Turkey,20.37,3.02,0.47,0.66,9.25,8.51,2.5,0.09,11.25,3.45,40.27,0.1
KURD:Kurd_Kurmanji,24.19,1.39,1.15,0.18,8.64,7.09,2.59,0.26,13.97,0.62,39.81,0.1
KURD:Kurd_Sorani,24.26,0.4,1.22,0.48,7.29,6.28,3.79,0.94,16,0.5,38.62,0.24
TURK:Turk_East,18.08,1.73,0.78,0.60,10.65,7.55,1.17,0.08,12.17,1.35,45.75,0.04
KURD:Yazidi,26.02,0.82,1.41,0.57,8.32,6.31,2.78,0.76,13.85,0.56,38.55,0.06

Target: Erzincan1
Distance: 1.2888% / 1.28878723
34.6 TURK
31.6 KURD
28.2 ARMENIAN
5.6 AZERI

When I delete "Turk_East":

Target: Erzincan1
Distance: 1.5148% / 1.51481693
47.6 ARMENIAN
29.6 KURD
22.8 AZERI

Turk_East seems to be the better fit for the turkish part than Azerbaijani becaue Azerbaijan lacks a bit of Pontic admixture.

**Fedora** · 11-05-2020, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by Kyp

You mean Erzincan?

This is the model with all of the spreadsheet:

Target: Erzincan1
Distance: 1.1149% / 1.11492641 | ADC: 0.25x
36.2 Turk_East
31.4 Udi_Azerbaijan
16.2 Zaza
8.2 Azeri_Jew
4.8 Kurd_Sorani
2.4 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.8 Juang

Target: Erzincan1
Distance: 1.5951% / 1.59512456 | ADC: 0.5x
47.2 Turk_East
33.4 Zaza
17.4 Udi_Azerbaijan
2.0 Azeri_Jew

The distances when all turkish cities are included:

Distance to: Erzincan1
3.20697677 Udi_Azerbaijan
3.58530333 Turk_East
3.99316917 Turk_Erzincan
4.61320930 Turk_Elazig
4.64114210 Zaza
5.66536848 Turk_Erzurum
6.05692166 Turk_Igdir
6.16897074 Turk_Malatya
6.18081710 Turk_Gumushane
6.25391877 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.32074363 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.49243406 Turk_Kars
6.73956230 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.75044443 Turk_Sanliurfa
6.86821665 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.97613073 Armenian_East
7.64823509 Azerbaijani
7.69373771 Turk_Sivas
7.78506262 Turkmen_Iraq
7.80446026 Turk_Giresun_South
7.95259706 Turk_Kilis
8.25713025 Turk_Southeast
8.26929864 Kurd_KAZ
8.27269605 Kurd_Sorani

Code:

ARMENIAN:Armenian_East,17.31,0.25,0.50,0.04,10.96,6.45,0.37 ,0.01,13.83,0.19,50.02,0.02 
ARMENIAN:Armenian_West,17.23,0.05,0.79,0.11,12.26,3.33,0.39,0.1,16.05,0.08,49.54,0
AZERI:Azerbaijani,20.81,2.53,0.45,0.58,9.08,9.18,2.66,0.31,12.19,3.6,38.42,0.19
AZERI:Azerbaijani_Iran,21.99,2.58,1.09,0.87,8.14,8.1,2.66,0.37,12.2,2.9,38.98,0.11
AZERI:Azerbaijani_Turkey,20.37,3.02,0.47,0.66,9.25,8.51,2.5,0.09,11.25,3.45,40.27,0.1
KURD:Kurd_Kurmanji,24.19,1.39,1.15,0.18,8.64,7.09,2.59,0.26,13.97,0.62,39.81,0.1
KURD:Kurd_Sorani,24.26,0.4,1.22,0.48,7.29,6.28,3.79,0.94,16,0.5,38.62,0.24
TURK:Turk_East,18.08,1.73,0.78,0.60,10.65,7.55,1.17,0.08,12.17,1.35,45.75,0.04
KURD:Yazidi,26.02,0.82,1.41,0.57,8.32,6.31,2.78,0.76,13.85,0.56,38.55,0.06

Target: Erzincan1
Distance: 1.2888% / 1.28878723
34.6 TURK
31.6 KURD
28.2 ARMENIAN
5.6 AZERI

When I delete "Turk_East":

Target: Erzincan1
Distance: 1.5148% / 1.51481693
47.6 ARMENIAN
29.6 KURD
22.8 AZERI

Some of those results in Erzincan, Erzurum look like Kurd+Turk+Armenian mix.

**Kyp** · 11-05-2020, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Fedora

Some of those results in Erzincan, Erzurum look like Kurd+Turk+Armenian mix.

how do people in Erzincan identify?

I like the music of the region:

**Fedora** · 11-05-2020, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Kyp

how do people in Erzincan identify?

I like the music of the region:

Turks except the Alevi Kurds/Zaza who often have ancestry from Tunceli. There are also people with ancestry from Balkan or Ahiska region. In diaspora you'll mostly find Kurds because the alevi population usually migrates out.

**Leto** · 11-05-2020, 11:43 AM

Adopted from Kazakhstan
https://ibb.co/tC6wq8F

Gedrosia 9.78 Pct
Siberian 25.01 Pct
Northwest_African 0.91 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 3.41 Pct
North_European 10.36 Pct
South_Asian 3.09 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.12 Pct
East_Asian 34.64 Pct
Caucasus 10.68 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Mia
6.05741694 Kyrgyz
6.72888549 Kazakh
7.15840764 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
10.68749269 Karakalpak
14.36366945 Uyghur
14.92481826 Hazara
15.04396224 Nogai_Astrakhan
16.88769078 Kalmyk
17.64601088 Uzbeks
17.90460276 Mongol_Khalka

Target: Mia
Distance: 3.1770% / 3.17702462 | ADC: 0.25x
59.6 Kyrgyz
17.8 Mongol_Khalka
15.6 Uzbeks
2.8 Hazara
2.2 Syria_SW_Christian
2.0 Turk_East_Black_Sea

Coincidentally:
A Turk in France, father is partially from Diyarbakir, mother is partially from Erzincan

Gedrosia 16.41 Pct
Siberian 1.26 Pct
Northwest_African 2.57 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 12.57 Pct
North_European 10.3 Pct
South_Asian 2.23 Pct
East_African 0.99 Pct
Southwest_Asian 11.26 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 42.41 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: asli
5.73503269 Turk_Central_East
5.79502373 Turk_East
7.21634949 Turk_Southeast
7.43144670 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.67772102 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.87704894 Turk_Central_West
8.34665202 Azerbaijani
8.47225472 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.56849462 Turk_South
9.05156892 Azerbaijani_Iran

Target: asli
Distance: 1.5977% / 1.59768086 | ADC: 0.25x
57.0 Turk_East
17.4 Greek_Crete
10.8 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.8 Chechen
4.6 Balkan_Gypsy
2.4 Algerian

Target: asli
Distance: 3.0916% / 3.09155572 | ADC: 0.5x
54.6 Turk_East
24.0 Turk_Central_East
13.4 Greek_Crete
3.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
3.2 Udi_Azerbaijan
1.6 Balkan_Gypsy