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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Adopted from Kazakhstan
    https://ibb.co/tC6wq8F

    Gedrosia 9.78 Pct
    Siberian 25.01 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.91 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 3.41 Pct
    North_European 10.36 Pct

    South_Asian 3.09 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 2.12 Pct
    East_Asian 34.64 Pct
    Caucasus 10.68 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Mia
    6.05741694 Kyrgyz
    6.72888549 Kazakh
    7.15840764 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
    10.68749269 Karakalpak
    14.36366945 Uyghur
    14.92481826 Hazara
    15.04396224 Nogai_Astrakhan
    16.88769078 Kalmyk
    17.64601088 Uzbeks
    17.90460276 Mongol_Khalka

    Target: Mia
    Distance: 3.1770% / 3.17702462 | ADC: 0.25x
    59.6 Kyrgyz
    17.8 Mongol_Khalka
    15.6 Uzbeks
    2.8 Hazara
    2.2 Syria_SW_Christian
    2.0 Turk_East_Black_Sea


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    A Turk in France, father is partially from Diyarbakir, mother is partially from Erzincan

    Gedrosia 16.41 Pct
    Siberian 1.26 Pct
    Northwest_African 2.57 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 12.57 Pct
    North_European 10.3 Pct

    South_Asian 2.23 Pct
    East_African 0.99 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 11.26 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 42.41 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: asli
    5.73503269 Turk_Central_East
    5.79502373 Turk_East
    7.21634949 Turk_Southeast
    7.43144670 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    7.67772102 Udi_Azerbaijan
    7.87704894 Turk_Central_West
    8.34665202 Azerbaijani
    8.47225472 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    8.56849462 Turk_South
    9.05156892 Azerbaijani_Iran

    Target: asli
    Distance: 1.5977% / 1.59768086 | ADC: 0.25x
    57.0 Turk_East
    17.4 Greek_Crete
    10.8 Udi_Azerbaijan
    7.8 Chechen
    4.6 Balkan_Gypsy
    2.4 Algerian

    Target: asli
    Distance: 3.0916% / 3.09155572 | ADC: 0.5x
    54.6 Turk_East
    24.0 Turk_Central_East
    13.4 Greek_Crete
    3.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    3.2 Udi_Azerbaijan
    1.6 Balkan_Gypsy
    Turkish results even if low EE in those regions always have higher NE than Armenians or local Greeks. I've seen results from places like Samsun with 3% but they would score 15 NE, compare to a local pontic greek who score like 3-4%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedora View Post
    Turkish results even if low EE in those regions always have higher NE than Armenians or local Greeks. I've seen results from places like Samsun with 3% but they would score 15 NE, compare to a local pontic greek who score like 3-4%.
    Don't know the reason. Armenians are very low Steppe people, that's true. Maybe other, more Western Anatolians were more Steppic than them.

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    I am just curious if you guys have any kits of Iranians who are confirmed to be from Tehran who not have any sort of Azeri DNA. I was just curious about what the kits of most Iranians I know would be like. I have tons of random Iranian kits and there are tons on this thread but I can not necessarily confirm where in Iranian they are from.

    Also I would be very interested in any results/kits of people confirmed from semi-nomadic tribes like Lur, Bakhtiari, or Qashqai.

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    Here is a confirmed Bakhtiari kit

    Gedrosia 27.58 Pct
    Siberian 0.75 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.36 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 5.83 Pct
    North_European 4.33 Pct
    South_Asian 4.14 Pct
    East_African 1.09 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 15.55 Pct
    East_Asian 1.62 Pct
    Caucasus 38.76 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance: 1.2376% / 1.23762044 | ADC: 0.25x
    90.8 Lur_Iran
    5.6 Iran_Mazandaran
    1.8 Kuwait2
    1.0 Iranian_Fars
    0.6 Japanese
    0.2 Ethiopian_Jews


    Distance: 1.5730% / 1.57296255 | ADC: 0.5x
    94.8 Lur_Iran
    4.2 Iranian_Fars
    0.8 Saudi
    0.2 Japanese


    Unsurprisingly pretty close to Lur

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saba View Post
    I am just curious if you guys have any kits of Iranians who are confirmed to be from Tehran who not have any sort of Azeri DNA. I was just curious about what the kits of most Iranians I know would be like. I have tons of random Iranian kits and there are tons on this thread but I can not necessarily confirm where in Iranian they are from.

    Also I would be very interested in any results/kits of people confirmed from semi-nomadic tribes like Lur, Bakhtiari, or Qashqai.
    Teheran:
    Gedrosian: 27.84
    Siberian: 1.43
    Northwest_African: 0.00
    Southeast_Asian: 0.00
    Atlantic_Med: 4.39
    North_European: 9.03
    South_Asian: 4.73
    East_African: 1.83
    Southwest_Asian: 12.16
    East_Asian: 0.32
    Caucasus: 38.18
    Sub_Saharan: 0.09

    Distance to: Tehran1
    4.60844876 Iranian
    5.50706819 Iranian_Fars
    5.58642999 Iran_Mazandaran
    5.79444562 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    6.06957165 Yazidi
    6.24217110 Lur_Iran
    6.91154107 Kurd_KAZ
    6.94538696 Kurd_Sorani
    7.04078831 Kurd_Kurmanji
    7.99961874 Zaza
    8.13217683 Azerbaijani_Iran
    8.68343250 Iran_Khorasan
    9.51896003 Azerbaijani
    9.75885752 Turkmen_Iraq
    10.28927597 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    10.45898657 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    12.24285098 Udi_Azerbaijan
    12.66194693 Turk_Southeast
    14.41489161 Iraqi_Baghdad
    14.55329860 Turk_East
    15.41154762 Lezgin
    15.49737397 Turkmen_Iran
    15.50069998 Parsi_India
    15.71044875 Turk_Central_East
    15.86961247 Ingush

    Target: Tehran1
    Distance: 1.9565% / 1.95645643 | ADC: 0.5x
    36.4 Iranian_Fars
    24.6 Iranian
    21.2 Iran_Mazandaran
    17.8 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    Teheran:
    Gedrosian: 27.84
    Siberian: 1.43
    Northwest_African: 0.00
    Southeast_Asian: 0.00
    Atlantic_Med: 4.39
    North_European: 9.03
    South_Asian: 4.73
    East_African: 1.83
    Southwest_Asian: 12.16
    East_Asian: 0.32
    Caucasus: 38.18
    Sub_Saharan: 0.09
    The North_European seems quite high is that common in the average Northern Iranian kit. Most Iranian results I see the North_European and Alantic_Med are 4-6% each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    Slightly above average maybe. Average of all Persians I have saved is at 7.55 North_Euro and 6.01 Atlantic_Med.
    4-6% is more common in the Southwest.


    Btw. if you're partly Qashqai you should find relatives from your Qashqai side to test
    My family was semi-nomadic during Qajar era. Does it count?
    Ahhhh I see the Iranian kits I have absolutely favor the Southwest.

    I do not have any 100% Qashqai family members alive any more . 3 of my Grandparents are half Qashqai. I am looking to test my paternal grandmother though because her father is fully Qashqai so her result should be a bit more accurate descriptive of a full Qashqai; then my paternal aunt who is the child of 2 half Qashqai people and has Bandari heritage. I am just waiting till Black Friday for the 23andme deal.

    I would be interested still in your family's kits if you have results from your Iranian side

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saba View Post
    Ahhhh I see the Iranian kits I have absolutely favor the Southwest.

    I do not have any 100% Qashqai family members alive any more . 3 of my Grandparents are half Qashqai. I am looking to test my paternal grandmother though because her father is fully Qashqai so her result should be a bit more accurate descriptive of a full Qashqai; then my paternal aunt who is the child of 2 half Qashqai people and has Bandari heritage. I am just waiting till Black Friday for the 23andme deal.

    I would be interested still in your family's kits if you have results from your Iranian side
    Okay looking forward to it!

    Here my fathers results (70% Nomadic from Zanjan, 30% Persian/Mazandaran)

    Gedrosian: 21.91
    Siberian: 2.65
    Northwest_African: 0.79
    Southeast_Asian: 0.01
    Atlantic_Med: 6.51
    North_European: 11.10
    South_Asian 4.19
    East_African 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 8.43
    East_Asian: 4.84
    Caucasian: 39.57
    Sub_Saharan: 0.00

    tance to: FatherKyp
    5.52248133 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    5.60597895 Azerbaijani
    5.77168086 Azerbaijani_Iran
    7.47113111 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    8.02239366 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    8.75198835 Turk_Southeast
    8.87449717 Kurd_Kurmanji
    9.04660710 Zaza
    9.69012384 Turk_South
    9.77229758 Turk_Central_East
    9.78670527 Iran_Khorasan
    9.92288768 Yazidi
    10.18003438 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    10.34867141 Udi_Azerbaijan
    10.53908914 Iranian
    10.62900748 Kurd_Sorani
    10.91302433 Turk_East
    11.01717750 Ingush
    11.15038564 Turkmen_Iraq
    11.27627598 Kurd_KAZ
    11.38470465 Turk_Central_West
    11.45310438 Karachay
    11.50602451 Iranian_Fars
    11.93698873 Lur_Iran
    12.60128565 Balkar

    Target: FatherKyp
    Distance: 1.5045% / 1.50454170 | ADC: 0.25x
    51.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    23.8 Kumyks
    23.0 Iran_Khorasan
    1.6 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal

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    Lipka Tatar (Belarus/Lithuania)

    Gedrosia 8.4 Pct
    Siberian 12.27 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 0.59 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 14.12 Pct
    North_European 31.55 Pct

    South_Asian 1.85 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 0.79 Pct
    East_Asian 15.38 Pct
    Caucasus 14.99 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 0.05 Pct

    Target: ajm
    Distance: 3.1495% / 3.14950850 | ADC: 0.25x
    60.2 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    34.6 Tatar_Kazan
    2.6 Bavarian_German
    2.6 Japanese


    This one must be at least partially Lipka (I have my reasons to think so)

    Gedrosia 6.08 Pct
    Siberian 9.43 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.22 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 2.95 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 14.81 Pct
    North_European 40.42 Pct

    South_Asian 0.88 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 0.74 Pct
    East_Asian 10.43 Pct
    Caucasus 14.04 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Target: Eduard
    Distance: 2.3506% / 2.35059946 | ADC: 0.25x
    70.0 Tatar_Kazan
    15.0 MD_North
    5.4 Russian_Voronezh
    4.2 Tujia
    3.8 Nogai
    1.6 Japanese

    Without Tatar_Kazan

    Target: Eduard
    Distance: 2.5442% / 2.54418155 | ADC: 0.25x
    45.0 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    35.0 Russian_Ryazan
    12.2 Chuvash
    5.4 Russian_Kursk
    2.4 Tujia

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    A Hazara/Pakistani mix

    Gedrosia 31.38 Pct
    Siberian 7.4 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 2.26 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 3.01 Pct
    North_European 8.86 Pct

    South_Asian 19.56 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 2.39 Pct
    East_Asian 15.38 Pct
    Caucasus 9.76 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Target: Ayhan
    Distance: 2.1279% / 2.12789827 | ADC: 0.25x
    29.6 Tajik_Balkh
    21.6 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
    20.6 Hazara
    19.6 Burusho
    5.0 Sindhi
    3.6 Balochi

    Her full Hazara relative (600+ cM)

    Gedrosia 16.96 Pct
    Siberian 16.5 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 3.43 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 0.74 Pct
    North_European 10.41 Pct

    South_Asian 6.04 Pct
    East_African 0.75 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 2.19 Pct
    East_Asian 27.37 Pct
    Caucasus 15.61 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Maryam
    6.38719031 Uyghur
    7.86012723 Hazara
    8.00842681 Uzbeks
    12.07136281 Turkmen_Afghanistan
    12.42493058 Uzbek
    12.84190406 Karakalpak
    15.69271168 Nogai_Astrakhan
    16.65196685 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    17.17281864 Kazakh
    17.76297554 Turkmen_TKM

    Target: Maryam
    Distance: 2.4855% / 2.48553755 | ADC: 0.25x
    60.2 Uyghur
    29.0 Hazara
    8.0 Georgian_Mingrelian
    2.0 Evenk
    0.4 Buryat
    0.4 Pulliyar


    @Amon, maybe you can do a new Hazara average. At least 10 samples.

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