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Now that I have been updated I am number one with a trophy with this sample. I am not really sure but that date seems to fit the time when the Vikings were in what is now Andalusia and it is documented that an undetermined group of Viking prisoners had to settle in the area; although how to know if it is the origin or is another. E1b1b1a1b1a - Viking Age Bogovej Langeland Denmark (VK362)
In Medieval Ages I have these results
Medieval Age
5. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
880 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.193 - I10895
14. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.71 - I10852
25. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.65 - I10851
26. Medieval Villa Magna Italy
990 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.72 - R63
28. Late Medieval L'Esquerda Spain
1350 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.81 - T-145-2
30. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1485 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.94 - R1221
47. Viking Age Karda Smaland Sweden
1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.0 - VK265
63. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.64 - I10853
67. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1429 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.84 - R1289
76. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy
1355 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.06 - R55
In modern times these are my results:
Early Modern Period
22. Le Mans Revolutionary France
1793 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.51 - LM_406_T
120. Marseilles Plague Victim
1721 AD - Genetic Distance: 15.24 - OBS137
156. Le Mans Revolutionary France
1793 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.35 - LM_306_T
167. Post-Reconquista Granada
1550 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.58 - I7425
177. Post-Reconquista Granada
1550 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.77 - I3809
192. Relic French King Louis XVI
1793 AD - Genetic Distance: 17.27 - LXVI
213. Marseilles Plague Victim
1721 AD - Genetic Distance: 17.64 - OBS116
226. Jean-Paul Marat Revolutionary France
1793 AD - Genetic Distance: 17.92 - Marat
338. Oxford Infirmiary
1790 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.25 - CSD
349. Late Medieval Latvia Riga Dome Church
1622 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.52 - RG161c
Last edited by Gallop; 11-14-2020 at 11:14 AM.
https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.


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This sample is also on Yfull:
(R1A)
https://www.yfull.com/tree/r1a/


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Yes I had read somewhere that it had been introduced in Y full
Although all this is largely autosomal my results with my own haplogroup are these:
E1b1b1a1b1 - Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (I10853)
E1b1b1a1b1a - Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (I7498)
E1b1b1b1a1 - Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (I12644)
E1b1b1a1b1a - Carthago Al-Andalus Alhama de Granada (I7457)
E1b - Medieval Tyrolian (SZ18)
E1b1b1a - Early Medieval Iberia Granada (I3981)
E1b1b1b1a1 - Medieval Taifa of Valencia (I12649)
E1b1b1a1b1a - Hungary Late Avar Szekkutas-Kapolnadulo (SzKper239)
E1b1b1a1b1a - Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (R1219)
E1b1b1a1b1a - Viking Age Bogovej Langeland Denmark (VK362)
E1b1b1b1 - Post-Reconquista Granada (I3807)
For example my outliers after Christ are these:
348. Late Roman Iberia Granada
470 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.51 - I3576
Roman Hispania (Genetic match)
373. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.03 - R32
Ancient Greek + Thracian (4.339)
384. Central Roman
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.29 - SZ43
Roman (Genetic match)
388. Germanic Mixed Tribe
505 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.35 - AED125b
Celt + Gaul (10.61)
389. Ostrogoth Frankish Mix
410 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.37 - STR_328
Celt + Sarmatian (5.804)
390. Byzantine Roman Warrior
605 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.4 - NS3b
Gaul + Roman (8.486)
416. Roman Villa Granada Spain
350 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.91 - I3983
Roman Hispania (Genetic match)
429. Carthago-Iberian-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate
Roman Hispania + Phoenician (10.06)
448. Central Roman
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.62 - SZ36
Roman (Genetic match)
451. Carthago-Roman San Ercolano
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.67 - R120
Illyrian + Carthaginian (8.755
460. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance
1650 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.77 - R970
Roman + Illyrian (5.741)
462. Roman Empire Monterotondo
165 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.8 - R1540
Hellenic Roman + Roman Hispania (6.097)
463. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona
165 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.81 - R836
Philistine + Roman (9.784)
472. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP
100 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.93 - R113
Roman + Phoenician (7.366)
474. Danish Gaelic Viking Iceland
935 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.94 - SSG-A2
Celt (Genetic match)
475. Celtic Medieval Denmark
1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.95 - G973
Celt (6.145)
Viking Danish + Celt (6.439)
479. Roman Mix San Ercolano
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.02 - R118
Thracian + Illyrian (6.652)
Roman + Illyrian (6.785)
480. Roman Outlier Lombard Grave
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.03 - SZ31
Gallo-Roman + Roman (7.168)
484. Germanic Medieval Duomo San Nicola Sardinia
1500 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.1 - SNN001
Alemanni + Ligurian (9.743)
Alemanni + Frank (10.91)
487. Nordic Lombard
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.14 - SZ14
Viking Danish + Longobard (4.033)
491. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona
550 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.2 - I12031
Y-DNA: E1b1b1a1b1a (L142.1)
Scythian + Gaul (6.59)
Scythian + Frank (7.649)
Scythian + Thuringii (7.837)
Gaul (8.718)
Visigoth + Scythian (8.924)
Y-DNA: E1b1b1a1b1a (L142.1)
Gaul + Thuringii (8.966)
Thuringii (11.34)
Scythian (11.65)
Frank (11.78)
Visigoth (13.6)
493. Visigoth Germanic Girona
550 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.28 - I12163
Visigoth (Genetic match)
494. Medieval Ireland Kilteasheen
950 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.32 - KT32
Celt + Belgae (4.283)
498. Germanic Lombard
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.42 - SZ42
Celt + Saxon (2.721)
Viking Danish + Celt (3.032)
How do you see it?
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E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.


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Well you're E-V22 which means it was probably introduced in Iberia during Phoenician or Roman rule and not later as E-V22 is very rare in North-West Africa (its Middle Eastern/Egyptian). Autosomally-wise you're just 'purely' Iberian and its not weird for Iberians to have high genetic afinity with Northern European peoples as is manifested in your MTA results. Celtic, Alemani, Visigoths also share common origins.


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All my matches with Viking.
32 match is not bad at all
And these are all my matches with Vikings at the moment.
It is possible that there are more Deep Dives at times as you know they take a while to appear and then there is the question of the quality of the samples you know it depends on how complete they are we can lose a deep dive.
P.S.: Be sure to visit my thread: Andalusians, you know it's one of the best around.
The link is in my signature, thank you.![]()
https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.


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No sé qué compañía estáis utilizando ni sé qué metodología usa ni cuántos SNP´s meten para que den resultado por cM.
Quizá si utilizáis gedmatch (Gallop tb debería mirarlo) podáis tener algo más convergente con el resto de españoles (quizá porque los de la compañía vuestra digan que hay similitud si en 5cM compartís 100snp´s, cuando por ej. en gedmatch hay matches cuando tienes más de 7cM y un mínimo de 300 SNP´s).
Pero sí, es soprendente en ambos casos. En tu caso habría que ver si hay otros con esa compañía que dan más o menos que tú, o mucho menos. Es decir, cuál es la media normal de similitud de cualquier europeo actual con Oetzi.
Así que haced un One-to-One con esos kits en gedmatch y a ver cuántos cM os salen. No sé si está Oetzi en gedmatch, pero sí sé que hay algunos vikingos. Hace siglos que no me meto en gedmatch.


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How can be iberians a mix of west europe with iberians?


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My results with the Medieval period
Medieval Age
5. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
880 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.193 - I10895
Visigoth + Vascones (4.831)
Visigoth + Aquitani (5.069)
Vascones + Gallo-Roman (5.148)
Visigoth (5.682)
Visigoth + Iberian (5.797)
Aquitani + Gallo-Roman (5.961)
Iberian (7.783)
Gallo-Roman (7.858)
Vascones (8.07)
Aquitani (8.091)
14. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.71 - I10852
Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (4.475)
Gallo-Roman (4.774)
Visigoth + Ligurian (5.353)
Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (5.486)
Ligurian + Gallo-Roman (5.506)
Iberian + Ligurian (5.63)
Visigoth (6.01)
Etruscan (7.744)
Ligurian (8.599)
Iberian (9.262)
26. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.65 - I10851
Visigoth + Rhaeti (4.057)
Rhaeti + Etruscan (4.377)
Gallo-Roman + Rhaeti (4.477)
Rhaeti (5.019)
Visigoth + Etruscan (5.231)
Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (5.24)
Etruscan (5.603)
Gallo-Roman (6.206)
Visigoth (6.235)
Iberian (8.179)
27. Medieval Villa Magna Italy
990 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.72 - R63
Ligurian + Etruscan (2.875)
Visigoth + Ligurian (3.258)
Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (3.335)
Ligurian + Gallo-Roman (3.772)
Ligurian + Rhaeti (3.798)
Etruscan (4.463)
Gallo-Roman (4.989)
Visigoth (5.682)
Ligurian (6.458)
Rhaeti (8.053)
29. Late Medieval L'Esquerda Spain
1350 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.81 - T-145-2
Visigoth + Al-Andalus (5.165)
Al-Andalus + Etruscan (6.192)
Al-Andalus + Gallo-Roman (6.212)
Visigoth + Etruscan (6.346)
Etruscan (6.767)
Al-Andalus + Rhaeti (6.977)
Visigoth (7.092)
Rhaeti (8.971)
Gallo-Roman (9.224)
Al-Andalus (9.822)
31. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1485 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.94 - R1221
Etruscan + Frank (4.984)
Gallo-Roman + Frank (5.626)
Visigoth + Frank (5.863)
Frank + Illyrian (6.655)
Visigoth + Illyrian (7.606)
Frank (9.022)
Visigoth (9.948)
Illyrian (10.22)
Etruscan (10.54)
Gallo-Roman (11.97)
40. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
1002 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.46 - VK146
Ligurian + Frank (3.847)
Visigoth + Frank (4.217)
Frank (4.329)
Gallo-Roman + Frank (4.471)
Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (4.935)
Visigoth + Ostrogoth (5.629)
Visigoth (9.623)
Gallo-Roman (11.08)
Ligurian (11.36)
Ostrogoth (11.57)
49. Viking Age Karda Smaland Sweden
1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.0 - VK265
Belgae + Vascones (3.737)
Belgae + Gallo-Roman (5.531)
Celt + Vascones (5.706)
Visigoth + Belgae (5.721)
Celt + Gallo-Roman (6.038)
Vascones (8.379)
Visigoth (10.06)
Belgae (10.3)
Celt (11.1)
Gallo-Roman (11.28)
65. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.64 - I10853
Al-Andalus + Etruscan (5.522)
Iberian + Al-Andalus (5.929)
Visigoth + Etruscan (6.514)
Rhaeti + Etruscan (6.795)
Iberian + Etruscan (7.112)
Etruscan (7.581)
Rhaeti (9.529)
Visigoth (9.978)
Iberian (10.35)
Al-Andalus (10.37
69. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1429 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.84 - R1289
Iberian + Latin (2.215)
Iberian + Vascones (2.655)
Vascones + Latin (3.05)
Iberian + Gallo-Roman (3.36)
Iberian + Aquitani (3.566)
Iberian (4.151)
Vascones (6.005)
Latin (7.087)
Aquitani (8.718)
Gallo-Roman (9.058)
https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.
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