Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 3

**Lucas** · 12-16-2020, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by Aren

I'm doing the averages.

Lebanon_Maronite,11.25,0.07,3.86,0.11,15.59,1.9,0. 18,0.82,22.53,0.12,43.54,0.02
Lebanon_Greek_Orthodox,11.22,0.11,3.72,0.09,15.56, 1.35,0.26,0.84,22.82,0.1,43.9,0.02

The two are basically identical. Comparison to the average I created these two are bit less SW Asian and a bit more North European and Gedrosia

Lebanese_Christian(created by Aren),10.7,0,4.03,0.17,15.63,0.86,0.31,0.98,23.73, 0.12,43.46,0

I think it is possible to make north and south Iraqis averages?

**Leto** · 12-16-2020, 11:33 PM

Okay, the whole thing is on you, Aren

Especially Syrian will be interesting. And Jordanian of course (our only avg is a legacy pop from Dodecad).

**Lucas** · 12-16-2020, 11:33 PM

43 Jordanians

Code:

Jordan_10AM58,9.82,0.2,5.13,0,13.67,3.4,1.39,4.55,23.88,0,36.17,1.79
Jordan_10AM65,10.91,0.76,4.45,0,13.59,4.19,0.35,3.63,22.9,0,35.41,3.81
Jordan_10AM74,11.03,0,4.7,0,13.28,3.87,1,4.47,23.91,0,35,2.75
Jordan_11AM58,9.4,0,6.79,0,11.26,1.29,1.63,7.01,23.17,0,37.62,1.82
Jordan_12AM58,11.01,0,6.06,0,9.96,1.33,1.03,7.09,25.12,0,36.75,1.63
Jordan_12AM63,11.52,0.26,5.77,0,14.64,0.48,0.34,4.67,23.44,0,37.56,1.33
Jordan_13AM58,9.16,0,5.8,0,14.87,1.03,0.24,0.95,25.66,0,42.27,0
Jordan_13AM74,11.88,0.12,5.06,0,13,1.02,0,4.71,25.19,0,36.5,2.53
Jordan_14AM66,11.68,0.2,7.64,0,12.69,0.97,1.02,4.28,23.99,0.91,33.83,2.8
Jordan_15AM64,9.27,0,5.89,0,13.36,0.84,0.49,5.5,30.36,0,32.68,1.63
Jordan_15AM65,10.21,0,5.23,0.3,12.19,4.5,1.82,4.77,19.02,0,39.96,2.01
Jordan_15AM66,7.18,0.42,7.55,0.4,9.47,4.45,2.13,6.43,22.37,0.9,34.87,3.84
Jordan_16AM66,10.85,0,6.2,0,12.38,2.23,1.94,4.65,26.1,0,33.4,2.25
Jordan_16AM68,10.26,0,4.09,0,14.06,0.56,0.86,2.4,25.33,0,42.43,0
Jordan_1AM65,7.39,0,8.02,0,14.79,0.68,1.55,6.41,24.28,0,35.34,1.54
Jordan_1AM76,8.68,0.07,6.44,0,11.23,1.39,0.63,5.37,29.62,0.84,33.46,2.26
Jordan_24AL42,8.72,0,6.33,0.49,12.65,0.85,0,4.79,25.24,0,38.98,1.96
Jordan_2AM59,7.95,0.02,4.68,0,14.55,1.1,0,2.09,24.97,0,44.64,0
Jordan_2AM63,12.05,0.17,4.9,0.43,12.06,1.62,1.19,4.39,24.88,0,36.91,1.39
Jordan_2AM66,9.75,0,5.23,0,10.77,1.07,0.88,5.28,26.45,0.49,38.09,1.98
Jordan_3AM58,10.07,0,3.99,0,19.02,3.04,1.77,3.89,23.72,0.52,33.03,0.94
Jordan_3AM63,17.5,2.66,0,0.61,7.18,14.19,1.24,0,4.36,4.17,48.08,0
Jordan_3AM68,7.17,0,2.73,0,15.21,0.93,0,2.12,27.71,0.35,43.79,0
Jordan_3AM77,7.96,0,4.48,0.42,15.2,0,0,3.15,24.53,0.11,44.16,0
Jordan_4AM64,9.16,0.27,5.8,0.7,12.83,1.94,0.46,4.62,28.2,0,34.75,1.27
Jordan_5AM60,10.67,0,3.03,0.41,13.87,1.25,0.46,4.66,26.22,0.88,35.86,2.69
Jordan_5AM66,9.59,0,5.81,0.62,14.29,1.1,1.25,3.59,25.83,0,36.19,1.75
Jordan_5AM68,9.93,0.36,4.55,1.35,13.41,1.55,0.62,4.53,24.48,0,37.17,2.07
Jordan_6AM65,14.52,0,4.29,0.93,13,4.45,1.81,4.36,18.24,2.98,31.31,4.11
Jordan_6AM74,10.44,0,4.53,0.74,14.6,0,1.65,6.02,23.48,0,37.35,1.19
Jordan_7AM66,10.82,1.44,5.16,0,10.52,0.94,2.95,5.11,27.12,0.7,33.56,1.68
Jordan_8AM45,10.25,0,5.71,0.04,13.31,0.58,1.26,5.36,30.49,0.66,32.15,0.19
Jordan_8AM66,6.34,0,6.42,0.62,16.32,0.39,0,1.93,26.76,0,41.22,0
Jordan_8AM74,9.44,0,5.77,0,13.76,3.07,0,0.79,25.85,0.3,41.02,0
Jordan_8AM77,10,1.16,5.01,0.2,10.98,1.09,0,5.66,31.28,0.05,33.96,0.62
Jordan_9AM58,9.61,1.02,3.21,0,17.16,1.41,0,0.78,21.4,0.58,44.84,0
Jordan_9AM68,8.68,0,5.57,0,16.29,0.81,0,1.27,27.39,0.06,39.92,0
Jordan_Aut-11-09-39-01,7.13,0,6.94,0,12.26,0,0.47,11.49,25.04,0,30.78,5.88
Jordan_Aut-11-09-39-03,10.35,0,5.23,0.51,13.51,0.21,0,6.2,26.16,0.16,32.9,4.78
Jordan_Aut-11-09-39-04,10.01,0,4.79,0.74,15.94,1.13,0.72,2.02,24.81,0,39.83,0
Jordan_Aut-11-11-10-01,6.79,0,7.55,0.13,10.65,0.87,2.01,5.72,25,0.38,39.06,1.85
Jordan_Aut-11-11-10-02,7.27,0.23,5.85,0.07,12.69,1.54,0,1.5,29.42,0.47,40.96,0
Jordan_Aut-11-11-42-03,16.42,0,3.35,0.05,9.21,7.92,0.88,2.85,17.38,1.88,39.17,0.89

Next 148 Iranians

**Leto** · 12-16-2020, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Lucas

Next 148 Iranians

**Lucas** · 12-16-2020, 11:37 PM

**Leto** · 12-16-2020, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by Aren

I'm doing the averages.

Lebanon_Maronite,11.25,0.07,3.86,0.11,15.59,1.9,0. 18,0.82,22.53,0.12,43.54,0.02
Lebanon_Greek_Orthodox,11.22,0.11,3.72,0.09,15.56, 1.35,0.26,0.84,22.82,0.1,43.9,0.02

The two are basically identical. Comparison to the average I created these two are bit less SW Asian and a bit more North European and Gedrosia

Lebanese_Christian(created by Aren),10.7,0,4.03,0.17,15.63,0.86,0.31,0.98,23.73, 0.12,43.46,0

You'll decide which ones should remain. Syria was done by Amon, I'm sure he could only guess their exact origin, some Lebs and Iraqis may have passed as Syrians in the process.

**Aren** · 12-16-2020, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by Lucas

I think it is possible to make north and south Iraqis averages?

Don't think so. I can only separate Iraqi Arabs, Kurds and Assyrians/Mandaeans.

Btw is there something wrong with the Iraqis you ran through? The K12b results don't match with their PCA 25.
Some examples

Iraq_13R40,12.6,0,4.12,0,8.34,2.68,2.78,3.15,28.22,1.76,32.59,3.75

Visible SSA and high SW Asian obviously some kind of Arab but his PCA 25 coordinates give totally different results

Target: Iraqi:13R40
Distance: 3.8447% / 0.03844651
45.2 TUR_Barcin_N
29.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
10.4 GEO_CHG
9.4 Levant_Natufian
5.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

Low Natufian even for Assyrian standards and no SSA. Something is wrong, no?

**Lucas** · 12-16-2020, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by Aren

Don't think so. I can only separate Iraqi Arabs, Kurds and Assyrians/Mandaeans.

Btw is there something wrong with the Iraqis you ran through? The K12b results don't match with their PCA 25.
Some examples

Iraq_13R40,12.6,0,4.12,0,8.34,2.68,2.78,3.15,28.22,1.76,32.59,3.75

Visible SSA and high SW Asian obviously some kind of Arab but his PCA 25 coordinates give totally different results

Target: Iraqi:13R40
Distance: 3.8447% / 0.03844651
45.2 TUR_Barcin_N
29.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
10.4 GEO_CHG
9.4 Levant_Natufian
5.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

Low Natufian even for Assyrian standards and no SSA. Something is wrong, no?

Maybe sample names are in wrong order for groups I don't rememebr but rather not, but it is Dodecad, not G25 I don't think it is a problem. Especially if we don't known regions for any of them. They could be named Iraqi bbleble344 or Iraqi1, Iraqi2, Iraqi3. Treat it like that.

**Leto** · 12-16-2020, 11:48 PM

One Jordanian was a full Circassian, I already ran him two days ago. Also there was one half white Iraqi (seriously).

**Aren** · 12-16-2020, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by Lucas

Maybe sample names are in wrong order for groups I don't rememebr but rather not, but it is Dodecad, not G25 I don't think it is a problem. Especially if we don't known regions for any of them. They could be named Iraqi bbleble344 or Iraqi1, Iraqi2, Iraqi3. Treat it like that.

Probably wrong names then. Cause there's no chance that the difference between Gedmatch and PCA 25 runs is this high.

Btw the Muslims include some visible outliers, one Sunni Lebanese scores almost 20% SSA and one Shia is basically half South Asian. I'm gonna exclude them. You agree?