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    I couldn't find the K12b East Asian thread so take this Hui from NE China

    N-L665
    Gedrosia 1.26 Pct
    Siberian 6.78 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 26.6 Pct
    Atlantic_Med -
    North_European -
    South_Asian 0.22 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 0.31 Pct
    East_Asian 63.04 Pct
    Caucasus 1.79 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance: 0.6125% / 0.61251895
    Target: Tianjin | ADC: 0.25x RC
    83.8 Han_north
    7.0 Mongol
    4.7 Zhuang
    2.3 Naxi
    2.2 Hemshin

    Distance: 0.3911% / 0.39111791
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    26.2 Korean
    15.9 Tujia
    12.5 Han_north
    10.6 Japanese
    8.0 She
    7.7 Miaozu
    5.0 Hezhen
    4.8 Daur
    2.6 Oroqen
    2.5 Iran_Mazandaran
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    0.8 Zhuang
    0.2 Georgian_Adjara
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    Iraqi Turkmen:

    Gedrosian: 21.99
    Siberian: 3.33
    Northwest_African: 0.40
    Southeast_Asian: 0.71
    Atlantic_Med: 9.03
    North_European: 6.37
    South_Asian: 2.72
    East_African: 1.21
    Southwest_Asian: 15.66
    East_Asian: 2.08
    Caucasus: 36.47
    Sub_Saharan: 0.00

    Distance to: Iraqi_Turkmen
    3.81565198 Turkmen_Iraq
    4.95122207 Azerbaijani_Iran
    5.09987255 Kurd_Sorani
    5.21442231 Kurd_Kurmanji
    5.38088283 Azerbaijani
    5.71615255 Turk_Southeast
    5.84901701 Yazidi
    6.66586078 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    6.93821303 Zaza
    7.44361471 Iraqi_Baghdad
    7.99421041 Lur_Iran
    8.12739196 Iranian_Fars
    8.33825521 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    9.47429681 Iranian
    9.70467413 Kurd_KAZ
    9.75392741 Turk_Central_East
    9.81012232 Syrian_B
    9.89100602 Turk_South
    10.71384618 Iran_Arab
    11.14997758 Turk_Central_West
    11.15947131 Turk_East
    11.35591916 Udi_Azerbaijan
    11.35791354 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    11.47564813 Mandean
    11.49475968 Iran_Khorasan


    Distance: 1.1828% / 1.18283089
    Target: Iraqi_Turkmen | ADC: 0.5x RC
    63.0 Turkmen_Iraq
    17.8 Turk_Southeast
    16.5 Iranian_Fars
    2.7 Yukagir

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    By the way, the original Dodecad spreadsheet is a joke, a lot of those rare exotic pops are based on 1-2 samples only! We need Bangladeshi as it's based on ONE GUY only!

    I am sending Lukasz a list of all pops with a sample size below 5. That junk needs to be taken out.
    Take out the Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal/Brahmin-Uttaranchal as well from all possible calculators lol. It's based on 1 outlier and their admixture is very uncertain at the moment to figure out.
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    Based on the new data. Muslim = Shia + Sunni, Christian = Maronite + Orthodox
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    Lebanese_Muslim,12.80,0.40,4.36,0.39,13.11,3.06,1.30,3.46,20.70,0.36,38.62,1.45
    Lebanese_Christian,11.27,0.10,3.78,0.09,15.50,1.66,0.21,0.84,22.71,0.11,43.72,0.02

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    I did the average for the Syrian samples. Excluded a couple that clearly are Christians, some Kurds, one that scored like Eastern Anatolian Turks and two who were fully or partly Egyptian. The remaining Syrians left are still very heterogeneous, as an example the SW Asian scores range from 15% to 31% with a lot of them over 25% and an equal amount around 20% or lower.
    I suspect they have included Palestinians or maybe even some semi-Nomadic Bedouins in this average, as it's not much Eastern shifted in comparison to the Lebanese Muslims as one would expect. A lot of them seem indistuingshable from Palestinians which to me is odd, but they might be genuine Syrians afterall.

    Code:
    Syrian_Muslim,13.25,0.44,3.56,0.55,11.1,2.94,1.57,3.71,23.82,0.57,36.68,1.81

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    So it's somewhat different from what I did. Fuck. I'm tired of this, can't handle everything on my own. Why did you exclude the supposed Turks? They must be Syrian too. I excluded only Kurds, Assyrians and Leb Christian-like ones.

    Mine:
    Syrian_Arab,13.11,0.44,3.60,0.54,11.04,2.94,1.59,3 .86,24.08,0.56,36.33,1.87

    Yours:
    Syrian_Muslim,13.25,0.44,3.56,0.55,11.1,2.94,1.57, 3.71,23.82,0.57,36.68,1.81

    Virtually identical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    So it's somewhat different from what I did. Fuck. I'm tired of this, can't handle everything on my own. Why did you exclude the supposed Turks? They must be Syrian too. I excluded only Kurds, Assyrians and Leb Christian-like ones.

    Mine:
    Syrian_Arab,13.11,0.44,3.60,0.54,11.04,2.94,1.59,3 .86,24.08,0.56,36.33,1.87

    Yours:
    Syrian_Muslim,13.25,0.44,3.56,0.55,11.1,2.94,1.57, 3.71,23.82,0.57,36.68,1.81

    Virtually identical.
    I was busy these days man lol...

    I don't think they sampled just Syrian Arabs or they sampled from more Bedouin-heavy areas in Syria instead of Damascus, Aleppo and other larger cities.
    Anyways I'm gonna do the Iraqi Arabs too but like in Syria it might be more Bedouin shifted than the real average.

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    A Karachay:

    Gedrosia: 15.24 Pct
    Siberian: 3.39 Pct
    Northwest_African: -
    Southeast_Asian: 2.29 Pct
    Atlantic_Med: 4.36 Pct
    North_European: 18.01 Pct
    South_Asian: 1.07 Pct
    East_African: 1.98 Pct
    Southwest_Asian: 4.83 Pct
    East_Asian: 4.65 Pct
    Caucasus: 44.19 Pct
    Sub_Saharan: -

    Distance to: Karachay
    4.53333211 Balkar
    4.69443287 Karachay
    6.35596570 Kumyks
    6.61690260 Ossetian
    6.71917406 Circassian
    8.16706190 Ingush
    9.18584781 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
    9.37729705 Chechen
    11.31628473 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    12.05165964 Qumuq
    13.75658388 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    14.30589739 Abkhazian
    14.39248068 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    14.42915451 Turk_Central_East
    14.49937930 Turk_South
    14.86599475 Lak2
    14.91855556 Turk_West_BlackSea
    14.94285448 Nogai
    15.13461265 Azerbaijani
    15.29597986 Turk_Central_West
    15.29974510 Turk_East
    15.50669855 Lezgin
    15.67033184 Udi_Azerbaijan
    15.85994010 Turk_Southwest
    15.86112859 Azerbaijani_Iran

    Distance: 2.8850% / 2.88497411
    Target: Karachay | ADC: 0.5x RC
    92.5 Balkar
    3.5 Coptic
    1.8 Ethiopian
    1.3 Garo
    0.9 Zhuang

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aren View Post
    I don't think they sampled just Syrian Arabs or they sampled from more Bedouin-heavy areas in Syria instead of Damascus, Aleppo and other larger cities.
    Anyways I'm gonna do the Iraqi Arabs too but like in Syria it might be more Bedouin shifted than the real average.
    The Muslims in Syria are either Arabs or Kurds. Anyway, Syrian_Muslim is okay too. When you do Iraq, we'll submit the Lebs, Jordanians, Syrian and Iraqi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    The Muslims in Syria are either Arabs or Kurds. Anyway, Syrian_Muslim is okay too. When you do Iraq, we'll submit the Lebs, Jordanians, Syrian and Iraqi.
    Here's the Iraqi average, exluding Assyrians/Mandeans and Kurds. Also like you mentioned I exluded two European or half European outliers.
    This one is significantly more Arab shifted than the Baghdadi average I made out of the Iraqi project samples.

    Iraqi_Arab,16.56,0.45,2.95,0.27,8.15,3,3.31,3.67,2 5.43,0.78,33.56,1.82

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