German GEDmatch results

**Leto** · 12-23-2020, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

I send kit numbers of Hessians to Peterski in exchange for Bavarian and Swabian K13 results that he has so we can make regional averages, and ofcourse he never replied to my request. Ignore any dealings with this guy.

He is quite mean. Just because you personally have a problem with LM doesn't mean others are supposed to as well. He has access to all sorts of academic data, something I can only dream of. Yet he almost never shares and demands something in return from those who have much less.

**Peterski** · 12-23-2020, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Bavarian and Swabian K13 results that he has so we can make regional averages

I already made Bavarian K13 average long ago, and it is posted in the link below, for Swabians I can't because their kits are no longer active:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...Dmatch-results

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6709241

I was asking who made the other Bavarian average (there were two "German_Bavarian" and "Bavarian_German") and I never got a response.

**Peterski** · 12-23-2020, 02:44 PM

I have ca. 25 new samples who live in Bavaria, but there is no family tree / ancestors information (just that they live there currently).

**Slavic Italian** · 12-23-2020, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Peterski

I already made Bavarian K13 average long ago, and it is posted in the link below, for Swabians I can't because their kits are no longer active:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...Dmatch-results

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6709241

I was asking who made the other Bavarian average (there were two "German_Bavarian" and "Bavarian_German") and I never got a response.

Shame on you LM.

**Leto** · 12-23-2020, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

From a small place in Niederbayern/Lower Bavaria. Probably her ancestry is not entirely from there
This is her

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 37.97
2 Baltic 32.32
3 West_Med 11.18
4 West_Asian 8.04
5 East_Med 7.63
6 Amerindian 1.84
7 Oceanian 0.49
8 East_Asian 0.37
9 Red_Sea 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_German 4.36
2 Austrian 4.67
3 Hungarian 5.87
4 North_German 9.88
5 West_German 10.61
6 Croatian 10.67
7 North_Swedish 10.82
8 South_Polish 11.1
9 Swedish 11.23
10 South_Dutch 11.83
11 Danish 12.55
12 North_Dutch 12.85
13 Moldavian 12.86
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.96
15 Norwegian 13.2
16 Serbian 13.56
17 Ukrainian 13.72
18 Southwest_Finnish 13.99
19 Polish 14.1
20 Southeast_English 14.36

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.1% Hungarian + 32.9% Swedish @ 2.33
2 70.9% Hungarian + 29.1% Norwegian @ 2.51
3 62.6% West_German + 37.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.53
4 52.1% North_German + 47.9% Croatian @ 2.62
5 55.6% Croatian + 44.4% Norwegian @ 2.67
6 50.7% Moldavian + 49.3% Norwegian @ 2.8
7 54.9% Croatian + 45.1% North_Dutch @ 2.82
8 54.3% Croatian + 45.7% Danish @ 2.82
9 62.5% West_German + 37.5% Southwest_Russian @ 2.82
10 64.9% Hungarian + 35.1% North_German @ 2.91
11 62.7% West_German + 37.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.94
12 53.6% Swedish + 46.4% Moldavian @ 2.96
13 71.2% Hungarian + 28.8% North_Dutch @ 2.99
14 51.2% West_German + 48.8% South_Polish @ 3.04
15 60.1% South_Dutch + 39.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.05
16 70.8% Hungarian + 29.2% Danish @ 3.05
17 57.5% West_German + 42.5% Polish @ 3.08
18 63.5% West_German + 36.5% Belorussian @ 3.1
19 68.3% West_German + 31.7% Lithuanian @ 3.14
20 51.4% Croatian + 48.6% Swedish @ 3.2

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 31.75
2 Atlantic 20.23
3 Baltic 18.11
4 Eastern_Euro 11.06
5 West_Med 6.59
6 West_Asian 5.79
7 East_Med 4.93
8 Amerindian 1.36
9 Oceanian 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_German 6.52
2 North_German 8.05
3 Hungarian 8.16
4 Swedish 8.5
5 North_Swedish 8.69
6 West_German 8.88
7 Norwegian 9.74
8 Southwest_Finnish 9.91
9 North_Dutch 10.09
10 Danish 10.22
11 South_Dutch 10.35
12 Austrian 10.6
13 Finnish 11.96
14 West_Norwegian 12
15 Southeast_English 12.23
16 Irish 12.41
17 Southwest_English 12.48
18 West_Scottish 12.89
19 Croatian 13.36
20 South_Polish 13.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.1% Hungarian + 48.9% Swedish @ 2.32
2 60.2% Hungarian + 39.8% West_Norwegian @ 2.62
3 63.9% Swedish + 36.1% Moldavian @ 2.8
4 54.9% Hungarian + 45.1% Norwegian @ 2.81
5 68.8% Swedish + 31.2% Romanian @ 2.85
6 72.3% Swedish + 27.7% Bulgarian @ 2.86
7 62.1% Swedish + 37.9% Croatian @ 2.96
8 52.9% West_Norwegian + 47.1% Croatian @ 3.21
9 66.1% West_German + 33.9% Estonian @ 3.23
10 56.1% Hungarian + 43.9% North_Dutch @ 3.27
11 55% West_Norwegian + 45% Moldavian @ 3.28
12 64.2% Swedish + 35.8% Serbian @ 3.3
13 72.5% West_German + 27.5% Lithuanian @ 3.3
14 60.7% Norwegian + 39.3% Moldavian @ 3.47
15 58.7% Norwegian + 41.3% Croatian @ 3.49
16 56.4% Swedish + 43.6% Austrian @ 3.59
17 56.7% Hungarian + 43.3% Danish @ 3.63
18 58.7% North_Dutch + 41.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.63
19 70% West_German + 30% Belorussian @ 3.74
20 60% North_Dutch + 40% Moldavian @ 3.8

These are her mother's results who appears to be a full Bavarian!

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 40.33
2 Baltic 21.42
3 West_Med 15.26
4 West_Asian 11.11
5 East_Med 9.04
6 South_Asian 0.88
7 Red_Sea 0.88
8 Oceanian 0.83
9 Amerindian 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 4.62
2 South_Dutch 6.15
3 French 8
4 Austrian 8.75
5 North_German 10.61
6 East_German 11.07
7 Southeast_English 11.27
8 Hungarian 12.22
9 Danish 12.5
10 North_Dutch 12.52
11 Southwest_English 12.66
12 Orcadian 12.84
13 Irish 13.38
14 Serbian 14.03
15 West_Scottish 14.04
16 Norwegian 14.68
17 Spanish_Cataluna 14.86
18 Swedish 14.97
19 Portuguese 15.71
20 Spanish_Galicia 15.89

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.1% West_German + 7.9% Georgian @ 1.44
2 92.5% West_German + 7.5% Abhkasian @ 1.46
3 91.3% West_German + 8.7% Ossetian @ 1.57
4 91.2% West_German + 8.8% Adygei @ 1.6
5 91.4% West_German + 8.6% North_Ossetian @ 1.65
6 91.1% West_German + 8.9% Balkar @ 1.72
7 90.9% West_German + 9.1% Kabardin @ 1.75
8 90.7% West_German + 9.3% Chechen @ 1.76
9 90.1% South_Dutch + 9.9% Abhkasian @ 1.77
10 89.6% South_Dutch + 10.4% Georgian @ 1.78
11 88.4% South_Dutch + 11.6% Adygei @ 1.84
12 90.7% West_German + 9.3% Kumyk @ 1.9
13 91% West_German + 9% Lezgin @ 1.92
14 87.8% South_Dutch + 12.2% Chechen @ 1.93
15 90.8% West_German + 9.2% Tabassaran @ 2.01
16 88% South_Dutch + 12% Lezgin @ 2.03
17 87.7% South_Dutch + 12.3% Kumyk @ 2.03
18 88.7% South_Dutch + 11.3% North_Ossetian @ 2.03
19 88.3% South_Dutch + 11.7% Balkar @ 2.15
20 88.8% South_Dutch + 11.2% Ossetian @ 2.17

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 28.11
2 Atlantic 24.51
3 West_Med 11.28
4 West_Asian 9.82
5 Baltic 9.35
6 Eastern_Euro 9.04
7 East_Med 6.9
8 Oceanian 0.59
9 Red_Sea 0.22
10 South_Asian 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 5.73
2 French 7
3 West_German 7.11
4 North_German 9.46
5 Southwest_English 9.96
6 East_German 10.42
7 Southeast_English 10.54
8 Austrian 11.54
9 Danish 11.7
10 North_Dutch 11.93
11 Irish 12.25
12 West_Scottish 12.76
13 Serbian 12.78
14 Hungarian 12.81
15 Orcadian 13.45
16 Spanish_Cataluna 13.63
17 Spanish_Galicia 14.02
18 Norwegian 14.3
19 Portuguese 14.6
20 Swedish 14.82

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90% South_Dutch + 10% Georgian @ 2.06
2 90.6% South_Dutch + 9.4% Abhkasian @ 2.08
3 89.2% South_Dutch + 10.8% Adygei @ 2.4
4 88.1% South_Dutch + 11.9% Kumyk @ 2.41
5 89.4% South_Dutch + 10.6% Ossetian @ 2.43
6 88.4% South_Dutch + 11.6% Lezgin @ 2.44
7 89.1% South_Dutch + 10.9% Balkar @ 2.57
8 88.8% South_Dutch + 11.2% Chechen @ 2.58
9 89.7% South_Dutch + 10.3% North_Ossetian @ 2.59
10 88.2% South_Dutch + 11.8% Tabassaran @ 2.6
11 89.8% South_Dutch + 10.2% Armenian @ 2.62
12 88.9% South_Dutch + 11.1% Kabardin @ 2.63
13 90.3% South_Dutch + 9.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.94
14 79.7% Southwest_English + 20.3% Turkish @ 2.95
15 89.9% South_Dutch + 10.1% Kurdish @ 2.96
16 82.5% Southwest_English + 17.5% Armenian @ 3
17 89.2% South_Dutch + 10.8% Azeri @ 3.09
18 88.6% South_Dutch + 11.4% Turkish @ 3.1
19 82.8% Southwest_English + 17.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.14
20 82.2% Southwest_English + 17.8% Kurdish @ 3.17

Population
Gedrosia 8.44 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.39 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 31.2 Pct
North_European 39.96 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.06 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 16.95 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

**Leto** · 12-23-2020, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Creoda

Lower Saxony (7 kits)

Lower_Saxony,49.40,26.66,10.36,6.33,3.91,0.59,1.39 ,0.38,0.10,0.14,0.41,0.23,0.04

Distance to: Lower_Saxony
1.87763149 Dutch_North
2.56353272 North_German
2.59036677 Dutch_Central

...

Schleswig-Holstein (5 kits)

Schleswig-Holstein,51.88,26.99,10.47,3.55,3.51,0.79,1.13,0.0 5,0.39,0.50,0.41,0.16,0.10

Distance to: Schleswig-Holstein
2.96816442 Denmark
3.16769632 Norway_South_Central
3.30780894 Dutch_North

Those are fairly similar results. You can make a Northern_German average for Dodecad.

Of course unless like half of them are fucking gone now.

**Leto** · 12-23-2020, 09:56 PM

A full Offenbacher (Hessian). He's an old man, his grandparents were all born in the 1890s. You prolly won't find many Offenbach natives anymore since it's almost become a jihadi-hijabi shit ghetto as far as I'm concerned (huge migrant population)

Highest West Med I've seen in a German, ~21%

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 44.06
2 West_Med 20.95
3 Baltic 19.33
4 East_Med 5.89
5 West_Asian 4.94
6 Red_Sea 2.54
7 Siberian 1.3
8 Sub-Saharan 0.44
9 Amerindian 0.37
10 East_Asian 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 4.76
2 South_Dutch 5.8
3 West_German 7.23
4 Southeast_English 9.63
5 Southwest_English 9.69
6 Spanish_Cataluna 10.46
7 Southwest_French 10.99
8 Spanish_Galicia 11.32
9 Orcadian 11.42
10 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 11.48
11 Spanish_Cantabria 11.5
12 Portuguese 12.03
13 Irish 12.22
14 West_Scottish 12.41
15 North_Dutch 12.7
16 North_German 12.72
17 Austrian 12.9
18 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 13.02
19 Danish 13.11
20 Spanish_Murcia 13.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.8% Southwest_French + 46.2% North_German @ 2.18
2 66.8% South_Dutch + 33.2% Southwest_French @ 2.23
3 58.4% Spanish_Cantabria + 41.6% Swedish @ 2.39
4 52.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 47.4% North_German @ 2.42
5 78.1% Orcadian + 21.9% Sardinian @ 2.49
6 55.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 44.7% Swedish @ 2.51
7 76.8% Irish + 23.2% Sardinian @ 2.52
8 68.4% South_Dutch + 31.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.64
9 56.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 43.2% Norwegian @ 2.66
10 76.2% North_Dutch + 23.8% Sardinian @ 2.69
11 79.6% South_Dutch + 20.4% French_Basque @ 2.77
12 52.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 47.4% North_Dutch @ 2.8
13 53.8% Southwest_French + 46.2% North_Dutch @ 2.81
14 76.6% West_Scottish + 23.4% Sardinian @ 2.85
15 59.7% Southwest_French + 40.3% Swedish @ 2.86
16 57.2% Spanish_Galicia + 42.8% Norwegian @ 2.9
17 50.2% Spanish_Galicia + 49.8% Orcadian @ 2.91
18 51.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 48.2% Swedish @ 2.91
19 54.7% Southwest_French + 45.3% Danish @ 2.94
20 53.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 46.4% Norwegian @ 2.95

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 31.61
2 Atlantic 24.21
3 West_Med 17.44
4 Eastern_Euro 9.19
5 Baltic 7.4
6 West_Asian 4.01
7 East_Med 2.66
8 Red_Sea 2.18
9 Siberian 0.69
10 Sub-Saharan 0.32
11 Amerindian 0.2
12 Southeast_Asian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 5.78
2 South_Dutch 6.95
3 West_German 7.84
4 Southwest_English 8.17
5 Southeast_English 10.27
6 Spanish_Galicia 11.23
7 North_German 12.1
8 North_Dutch 12.11
9 Irish 12.35
10 Danish 12.42
11 Orcadian 12.47
12 Spanish_Cataluna 12.56
13 West_Scottish 12.57
14 Portuguese 12.83
15 East_German 12.88
16 Norwegian 13.72
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 13.96
18 Spanish_Extremadura 14.55
19 Spanish_Cantabria 14.58
20 West_Norwegian 14.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.1% West_Norwegian + 26.9% Sardinian @ 4.09
2 76.8% Orcadian + 23.2% Sardinian @ 4.36
3 57.8% Spanish_Galicia + 42.2% West_Norwegian @ 4.43
4 77.4% North_Dutch + 22.6% Sardinian @ 4.48
5 85% Southwest_English + 15% Sardinian @ 4.48
6 74.9% Norwegian + 25.1% Sardinian @ 4.49
7 55.8% Spanish_Galicia + 44.2% Norwegian @ 4.59
8 60.5% Southwest_English + 39.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.77
9 77.1% Danish + 22.9% Sardinian @ 4.84
10 54.1% Portuguese + 45.9% West_Norwegian @ 4.93
11 50.4% Spanish_Cantabria + 49.6% West_Norwegian @ 4.96
12 82.6% French + 17.4% West_Norwegian @ 4.98
13 53.2% Spanish_Galicia + 46.8% Orcadian @ 5
14 51.7% Norwegian + 48.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.01
15 69.4% West_German + 30.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.02
16 81.7% French + 18.3% Norwegian @ 5.03
17 52% Portuguese + 48% Norwegian @ 5.06
18 70% French + 30% Southwest_English @ 5.1
19 52.3% Spanish_Galicia + 47.7% North_Dutch @ 5.13
20 50.5% Spanish_Extremadura + 49.5% West_Norwegian @ 5.21

**J. Ketch** · 12-27-2020, 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by Leto

Those are fairly similar results. You can make a Northern_German average for Dodecad.

Of course unless like half of them are fucking gone now.

I genuinely don't have many German kits. You'd be better to ask Peterski.

A k12b average scraped together from 10 kits from Schleswig-Holstein, Lower Saxony and NRW. That will have to do for now

Code:

German_Northwest,8.16,0.13,0.26,0.15,35.45,47.14,0.23,0.01,0.8,0.02,7.59,0

Distance to:	German_Northwest
2.57106982	Dutch_Central
3.00557815	Dutch
3.24419482	Dutch_North
3.25066147	Icelandic
3.42641212	Danish
3.93561939	German
4.34097915	English_North
4.82058088	Swedish
4.99149276	English_mixed
5.10066662	English_South
5.10541869	Scottish
5.12934694	Mixed_NW_Euro
5.89788945	Irish
6.45609789	Dutch_South
8.93506016	Czech
11.01209789	Bavarian_German
11.43768770	Slovenian
11.56774827	Slovak
11.83353286	Sorb_Lusatia
12.99785367	Hungarians
13.41717929	French2
13.88148407	PL_Warmia-Masuria
14.03215593	French
14.66544237	Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
15.00261644	Polish_mixed

**Leto** · 12-27-2020, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by Creoda

I genuinely don't have many German kits. You'd be better to ask Peterski.

A k12b average scraped together from 10 kits from Schleswig-Holstein, Lower Saxony and NRW. That will have to do for now

Code:

German_Northwest,8.16,0.13,0.26,0.15,35.45,47.14,0.23,0.01,0.8,0.02,7.59,0

Distance to:	German_Northwest
2.57106982	Dutch_Central
3.00557815	Dutch
3.24419482	Dutch_North
3.25066147	Icelandic
3.42641212	Danish
3.93561939	German
4.34097915	English_North
4.82058088	Swedish
4.99149276	English_mixed
5.10066662	English_South
5.10541869	Scottish
5.12934694	Mixed_NW_Euro
5.89788945	Irish
6.45609789	Dutch_South
8.93506016	Czech
11.01209789	Bavarian_German
11.43768770	Slovenian
11.56774827	Slovak
11.83353286	Sorb_Lusatia
12.99785367	Hungarians
13.41717929	French2
13.88148407	PL_Warmia-Masuria
14.03215593	French
14.66544237	Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
15.00261644	Polish_mixed

Thank you. It's not easy to get something from that guy, although not impossible

Do you think NRW can be grouped together with those two? Maybe Northern districts